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  • #16
    Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
    yeah, guys who played against much bigger defensive players, the year doesnt matter, its the fact that is if a small running back can make it, matthieu can certainly make it in a position where he isnt getting pounded on. the defensive guys werent any smaller back in the day. sub package could suit him well,, piut him in and go after the ball.
    What undersized backs are playing in the league right now that get any kind of significant carries?

    You keep bringing up this back in the day stuff like that's still relevant. Nose tackles back then were maybe 300 pounds at most. Guards and centers were 280 pounds.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
      What undersized backs are playing in the league right now that get any kind of significant carries?

      You keep bringing up this back in the day stuff like that's still relevant. Nose tackles back then were maybe 300 pounds at most. Guards and centers were 280 pounds.
      I'm bringing it up to make a point you are missing, and by the way, Antoine Winfield and Jim Leonard were mathieu's size and played pretty well in the NFL so it is possible for the kid to make it.

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      • #18
        And in Leonard's 7 year career he's made it through all 16 games 3 times... And one of those seasons he wasent a starter.

        Winfield's 13 year career he made it through all 16 games 6 times.

        Neither has stayed healthy for even half of their seasons... Pretty stunning that those guys get hurt far more frequently.

        Winfield had the added benefit of playing outside for a large part of his career. Though in a cover 2 he was asked to make a lot of run support tackles.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
          And in Leonard's 7 year career he's made it through all 16 games 3 times... And one of those seasons he wasent a starter.

          Winfield's 13 year career he made it through all 16 games 6 times.

          Neither has stayed healthy for even half of their seasons... Pretty stunning that those guys get hurt far more frequently.

          Winfield had the added benefit of playing outside for a large part of his career. Though in a cover 2 he was asked to make a lot of run support tackles.
          well, lets wait and see what happens in the draft.
          Last edited by ELI_HOF_NYG; 02-19-2013, 11:40 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
            all I have to say is if guys like charlie garner and dave meggett who took a pounding as diminutive running backs can have productive careers in the league so can this kid. I think teams will find a place for a special talent like mathieu, his ball skills are undeniable. I agree though, the faster he runs at the combine the better for him.
            Your saying ball skills but his ball skills arent sitting in Cover 2 in the deep half and making plays on the ball. He is coming in as the 2nd guy and ripping the ball out ,forcing fumbles. there is a difference between Earl Thomas , Ed Reed type in single high reading the QB and breaking on the ball. Can Mathieu do that maybe but thats not the ball skills he showed at LSU. Mathieu made plays close to the line of scrimmage.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
              Janoris Jenkins was a much better cover corner than Mathieu though. Jenkins manned up the SEC';s best WR's on the outside. He is a much better player than Mathieu. Mathieu is a sub package player and Kick returner. Strong Safety / Nickel CB play short zone coverage or man up smaller WR's
              Took the words out of my mouth.

              As someone said, 5th round(mayyybe the 4th depending on pro day) because he does seem to have some sort of "it" factor on the field.
              2017 Mock Draft (Pre-combine / FA):

              Rd 1: OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
              Rd 2: Tanoh Kpassagnon (DE, Villanova)
              Rd 3: Antonio Garcia (OT, Troy)
              Rd 4: Samaje Perine (RB, Oklahoma)
              Rd 5: Davis Webb (QB, Cal)
              Rd 6: Ahkello Witherspoon (CB, Colorado)
              Rd 7: DJ Jones (DT, Ole Miss)

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              • #22
                Hosley seems like a perfect slot corner, but we're going to need someone to take Corey Webster's spot eventually opposite of Amukamara. Mathieu doesn't have the ideal size to play on the outside against a lot of the bigger receivers we'll see in the NFC.

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                • #23
                  Ex-LSU CB Tyrann Mathieu recently ran a hand-timed 4.47 forty-yard dash during his pre-Combine training.

                  NFL teams are beginning to sort through Mathieu's 2011 game tape, and there is a buzz about his big-play ability both on defense and special teams. It sounds like he's in shape after sitting out the 2012 football season and training hard with Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson, Mathieu's college teammate. "Patrick goes at him hard; he'll push him on the ground or whatever he's got to do to get Tyrann prepared," said Peterson Sr. "He's looking like Tyrann. He's staying away from the off-field stuff and he's focused. He looks like he means business, very locked in. He knows he can't get another strike."
                  http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/c...aft-headlines/

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                    Ex-LSU CB Tyrann Mathieu recently ran a hand-timed 4.47 forty-yard dash during his pre-Combine training.

                    NFL teams are beginning to sort through Mathieu's 2011 game tape, and there is a buzz about his big-play ability both on defense and special teams. It sounds like he's in shape after sitting out the 2012 football season and training hard with Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson, Mathieu's college teammate. "Patrick goes at him hard; he'll push him on the ground or whatever he's got to do to get Tyrann prepared," said Peterson Sr. "He's looking like Tyrann. He's staying away from the off-field stuff and he's focused. He looks like he means business, very locked in. He knows he can't get another strike."
                    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/c...aft-headlines/
                    a lot of teams are gonna be sorry they passed on him. his shear desire to get to the football is something you can't teach.
                    Last edited by ELI_HOF_NYG; 02-21-2013, 12:41 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
                      a lot of teams are gonna be sorry they passed on him. his shear desire to get to the football is something you can't teach.
                      I can really see him thriving in the nickel/slot corner role. If teams get creative they can use him in multiple ways shifting from that to safety. He's not ideal as some mentioned here but I do believe he can be an asset to teams. I loved watching him at LSU and will be one of the guys rooting for him to succeed. I just hope what that article says is true and he's keeping out of trouble and staying focused.
                      "You killed my family, and I don't like that kind of thing."

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                      • #26
                        I'd pass on this guy we already have one undersized CB we don't need more...

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                        • #27
                          Really his skill set is a linebacker. But his size says corner. Really odd mix

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                          • #28
                            With Wilson our starter at RB and Hixon a FA, who will be handling the special teams KO's and punts? Mattheiu was one of the best and exciting behind Patterson of Texas. This guy would really give us that spark on special teams we need, even making tackles and plays on defense. If he's there in the third they need to grab him. Just re watch some of his highlights, the kid is a playmaker.

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