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  • Originally posted by tonyt830 View Post
    nyc, I had Slay coming to the Giants in the 4th rd of my preliminary mock I posted a week or so ago. I wonder if he could go in the 3rd? I thought he was overshadowed by Banks at Miss St. But who knows, right.
    I think Banks stole some of Slay's thunder, and Banks wasen't exactly a ringing name amongst the draft nuts, so Slay kinda fell under the radar.. Slay is similar player to Banks in my opinion and very close to him talent wise.. Long, lean, quick, ball skills..etc I do think Slay could go as early as EARLY 3rd rd to be honest.. He dosen't seem to be under teh radar anymore..

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    • They showed teh top 10 or so 40's in the past 6yrs or so and none of em outside of Chris Johnson(who really had a short prime) is anything special.. Jacoby Ford, Heyward Bey, Van Dyke..etc

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      • Anybody have the arm lengths for the DB's?

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        • Noticed my sleeper DE, Armonty Bryant measured in with 35.68 arms, 3rd best of any Dlineman

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          • Man some of these WRs are impressive. TC taking some good notes looks like.
            Football has been very, very good to us.
            After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
            But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

            # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

            1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
            2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
            3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
            4-New York Giants!!!
            5-NE
            Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

            ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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            • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              Eh? Eifert and Ertz measured in an inch shorter and 10 pounds lighter than Gronk/Graham.

              Finley ran a 4.88 at the combine and a 4.66 at his proday.

              And Gronk/Graham/Fleener/Finley all werent 1st round picks either.
              I'm going to take Ertz out of the equation because he has absolutey no chance of going in the first....
              As for Eifert he is noticeably smaller then Gronk
              Combine measurements
              Gronk- 6'6", 264, 34 1/4 arms, 10 3/4 hands,
              Eifert- 6'5", 250, 33 1/8, 9 1/8

              Also with Eiferts official 40 time of 4.68 he doesn't seem to match up athletically with some of the more athletic 1st TE's of recent history (Vernon Davis, Greg Olsen, Dustin Keller). Truth be told we've only had 1 first round TE the past 3 seasons, so I stand by my original assessment that there is no TE in this years class worth a first round pick.

              Its not like Eifert lit it up on the field either, he had 0 hundred yard games and just 4 TD's last season
              Last edited by juice33s; 02-24-2013, 02:00 PM.

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              • Player School Height Weight Off. 40 Time Unoff. 40 Time 10-Yd Split Bench Vert Broad Arm
                Johnny Adams Michigan State 5-10 185 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.28
                Robert Alford SE Louisiana 5-10 188 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08
                David Amerson N.C. State 6-1 205 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.58
                Marc Anthony California 5-11 196 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.18
                Johnthan Banks Mississippi State 6-2 185 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33.78
                John Boyett Oregon 5-10 204 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.48
                Adrian Bushell Louisville 5-09 186 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08
                Sanders Commings Georgia 6-0 216 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08
                Johnathan Cyprien Florida Int. 6-0 217 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.68
                Will Davis Utah State 5-11 186 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.48
                Mike Edwards Hawaii 5-09 189 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.58
                Matt Elam Florida 5-10 208 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.58
                Josh Evans Florida 6-1 207 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.78
                Dwayne Gratz Connecticut 5-11 201 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.18
                Terry Hawthorne Illinois 6-0 195 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.28
                D.J. Hayden Houston 5-11 191 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.18
                Aaron Hester UCLA 6-2 198 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.48
                Micah Hyde Iowa 6-0 197 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.48
                Tony Jefferson Oklahoma 5-11 213 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.58
                Josh Johnson Purdue 5-09 199 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.38
                Keelan Johnson Arizona State 6-0 209 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.48
                Robert Lester Alabama 6-1 220 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08
                Tyrann Mathieu LSU 5-09 186 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.18
                Demetrius Mccray Appalachian State 6-1 187 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33.78
                T.J. McDonald USC 6-3 219 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
                Bradley McDougald Kansas 6-0 215 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.48
                Leon McFadden San Diego State 5-10 193 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.38
                Brandon McGee Miami 5-11 193 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08
                Rontez Miles California-PA 6-0 203 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.78
                Dee Milliner Alabama 6-0 201 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08
                Zeke Motta Notre Dame 6-2 213 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.38
                Jordan Poyer Oregon State 6-0 191 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.68
                Bacarri Rambo Georgia 6-1 211 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.08
                Eric Reid LSU 6-0 213 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33.58
                Greg Reid Florida State 5-08 190 -- -- -- -- -- -- 29.68
                Xavier Rhodes Florida State 6-2 210 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33.68
                Nickell Robey USC 5-07 169 -- -- -- -- -- -- 29.68
                Logan Ryan Rutgers 5-11 191 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.38
                Tharold Simon LSU 6-2 202 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.68
                Jamoris Slaughter Notre Dame 6-0 195 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.38
                Darius Slay Mississippi State 6-0 192 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.28
                Daimion Stafford Nebraska 6-0 221 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.18
                Jawanza Starling USC 6-1 202 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08
                Daxton Swanson Sam Houston State 5-10 186 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.38
                D.J. Swearinger South Carolina 5-11 208 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.38
                Rod Sweeting Georgia Tech 5-11 189 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.28
                Jamar Taylor Boise State 5-11 192 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.68
                Phillip Thomas Fresno State 6-1 208 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.58
                Shamarko Thomas Syracuse 5-09 213 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.48
                Desmond Trufant Washington 6-0 190 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.28
                Kenny Vaccaro Texas 6-0 214 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.68
                B.W. Webb William & Mary 5-10 184 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.28
                Kayvon Webster South Florida 5-10 195 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.48
                J.J. Wilcox Georgia Southern 6-0 213 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.08
                Duke Williams Nevada -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
                Shawn Williams Georgia 6-0 213 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.68
                Steve Williams California 5-09 181 -- -- -- -- -- -- 30.48
                Earl Wolff N.C. State 5-11 209 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31.48
                Khalid Wooten Nevada 5-11 210 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.68
                Blidi Wreh-Wilson Connecticut 6-1 195 -- -- -- -- -- -- 32.08

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                • Thats DB SIZES AND ARM LENGTH FOR ANYONE WHO DID NOT KNOW..

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                  • the thing with teo is, at pick #19, there could come the scenario where he actually could be the BPA. If he is, JR wont skip on him imo, hed stay true to his board. so i figure the interview with teo subject is just insuring himself if that decision needs to be made draft day

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                    • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                      I'm going to take Ertz out of the equation because he has absolutey no chance of going in the first....
                      As for Eifert he is noticeably smaller then Gronk
                      Combine measurements
                      Gronk- 6'6", 264, 34 1/4 arms, 10 3/4 hands,
                      Eifert- 6'5", 250, 33 1/8, 9 1/8

                      Also with Eiferts official 40 time of 4.68 he doesn't seem to match up athletically with some of the more athletic 1st TE's of recent history (Vernon Davis, Greg Olsen, Dustin Keller). Truth be told we've only had 1 first round TE the past 3 seasons, so I stand by my original assessment that there is no TE in this years class worth a first round pick.

                      Its not like Eifert lit it up on the field either, he had 0 hundred yard games and just 4 TD's last season
                      I love ur prospective JUICEY, but i disagree about Eifert here.. Hes every bit as good as Kyle Rudolph(i'm diehard nd fan), and maybe better(Rudolph had better QB play, at least throwers), and i think Rudolph is a 1st rd talent even though he didnt go in RD1, and if u put Rudolph on a team that has more consistent thrower then PONDER, hes absoulutley tearing the league to shreds right now.. Eifert has value between pick 25 and end of rd 1 in my humble opinion.. I've watched almost every game of his career, and his numbers would be a thousand times better had he been on a team like say, Syracuse with Nassib or something...

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                      • one of my fave prospects Jamar Taylor got some short arms.. I don't get it though, because he was a great run defender and was fine at man coverge, so i don't know where it hurt him on the field? Darius Slay at 6ft 1in 190lbs is pretty impressive, and Johnny Adams did himself a favor coming in at 186lbs , when he was listed at 178.. Adams could be a nice later rd steal at CB...

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                        • what do some of u guys think about the usc wr taken in a mid-late rd? he reminds me of ss12 in some regards and they run a pretty pro ready offense (or did under the previous system havent watched usc for a while) and i think the kid broke a bunch of records at usc so...

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                          • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                            I'm going to take Ertz out of the equation because he has absolutey no chance of going in the first....
                            As for Eifert he is noticeably smaller then Gronk
                            Combine measurements
                            Gronk- 6'6", 264, 34 1/4 arms, 10 3/4 hands,
                            Eifert- 6'5", 250, 33 1/8, 9 1/8

                            Also with Eiferts official 40 time of 4.68 he doesn't seem to match up athletically with some of the more athletic 1st TE's of recent history (Vernon Davis, Greg Olsen, Dustin Keller). Truth be told we've only had 1 first round TE the past 3 seasons, so I stand by my original assessment that there is no TE in this years class worth a first round pick.

                            Its not like Eifert lit it up on the field either, he had 0 hundred yard games and just 4 TD's last season
                            I do not agree with your logic on this.

                            The fact is TEs are more valuable now, with the recent changes in the NFL, than they have been in the past. NFL teams are only now beginning to recognize this.

                            Here is how I view it:

                            The Pats did not spend a 1st rounder on Gronk, but his play has been worth a 1st round pick.

                            The Saints did not spend a 1st round pick on Graham, but he has been worth a 1st round pick.

                            In the new NFL, I would argue that the TE has pulled even with the WR in terms of value to an offense (for some teams) and we will start seeing some pop into the 1st round in the future who may not have been 1st rounders in past years.

                            I would also argue that both Eifert and Ertz are better prospects than any TE who came out last year, including Fleener. He was selected 34th so it isnt impossible for at least 1 guy to go in the 1st. .
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                            • The few games I've watched of Stanford, Ertz didn't particularly stand out by chance. For Eiffert, he's as good as highpointing the ball and using every inch of his height and athleticism as an advantage as I've seen from recent TE prospects. I think he's worth a first. Just hopefully not by the Giants.

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                              • Damn kid from Arkansas (Knile Davis) ran a 4.30 (unofficial), and he's listed at 6'-0" and 220 lbs.

                                Just looking at this stats, the kid had a great 2010 in the SEC but is coming off an average 2012 after missing all of 2011 with an ankle injury.

                                Could it be he's over the injury?


                                Might be a nice late round pickup?

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