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  • #16
    Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
    Minter... at 34 (or whatever our 2nd rounder is)... I think he'll still be there.
    Ha I wish it was 34 ! That's the 2nd pick in the 2nd round, we pick at 49 and probably he's not going to be available.
    " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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    • #17
      none of these players excite me, you really don't know how they will perform in games. I'd rather draft O-line in the 1st round, you can't go wrong with that. hopefully Fluker will be there.

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      • #18
        I can't see Ogletree going past the Ravens

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Broadway Blue View Post
          I can't see Ogletree going past the Ravens
          Agreed.

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          • #20
            The only fact is this years draft is loaded with talent at OL and DL and the probability of Reese going that way is high.
            " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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            • #21
              So have the giants totally given up on Herzlich as a starter. Have they deemed him an official bust?
              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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              • #22
                Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                So have the giants totally given up on Herzlich as a starter. Have they deemed him an official bust?
                I don't think so but I doubt the Giants see him as a MLB in the near future.
                " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                  So have the giants totally given up on Herzlich as a starter. Have they deemed him an official bust?
                  cant really be a bust when youre undrafted.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    cant really be a bust when youre undrafted.
                    Yeah lol. People misuse bust all the time. No such thing as a 7th round bust lol.. People expect all late round picks to be pro bowlers around here. A bust is a top pick that does nothing.

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                    • #25
                      with how the combine played out, a lot of under the radar guys earned at the least 1rst rd attention. a lot of guys outside the top 25 or even 10 i bet, jumped up with their combines.
                      and i believe it will lead to a top 10 prospect falling similar to how prince fell. i think a flaw/red flag is going to cause the player to drop, and honestly atm, that player imo is ogeltree. he had a very so so combine for what was expected. all the off the field stuff. he still displayed top 10 talent, top 15 talent, but I bet he falls.

                      If he does, I dont know if JR jumps on it like he did Prince. People thought prince had avg arm length at best iirc, there were rumors about play making ability bc of the lack of ints his final year, but i think that was just fan analysis as the years prior he had sme nice ints...anyways, prince didnt have off field issues, if anything it was a pro what with his family history and all...Ogeltree will drop, maybe we can trade back. I believe the first 2, 2 and a half rds are gonna be chock full of players that could have been thought as a top 20 prospect...

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                      • #26
                        and ogeltree wont be starting at mlb for a year i'd bet anyways, maybe OLB, but did u see the talent this draft at DL/LB? Could get a ton of guys who can flat jump out the gym up to the mid rounds...

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                        • #27
                          both have character issues. I am leaning more for OT, possibly Fluker, or a solid DT.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                            So have the giants totally given up on Herzlich as a starter. Have they deemed him an official bust?
                            dude is solid...as a backup

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
                              dude is solid...as a backup
                              He is not solid as a backup. He was absolutely awful when he came in for Chase last year.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                                with how the combine played out, a lot of under the radar guys earned at the least 1rst rd attention. a lot of guys outside the top 25 or even 10 i bet, jumped up with their combines.
                                and i believe it will lead to a top 10 prospect falling similar to how prince fell. i think a flaw/red flag is going to cause the player to drop, and honestly atm, that player imo is ogeltree. he had a very so so combine for what was expected. all the off the field stuff. he still displayed top 10 talent, top 15 talent, but I bet he falls.

                                If he does, I dont know if JR jumps on it like he did Prince. People thought prince had avg arm length at best iirc, there were rumors about play making ability bc of the lack of ints his final year, but i think that was just fan analysis as the years prior he had sme nice ints...anyways, prince didnt have off field issues, if anything it was a pro what with his family history and all...Ogeltree will drop, maybe we can trade back. I believe the first 2, 2 and a half rds are gonna be chock full of players that could have been thought as a top 20 prospect...
                                I agree that there is a good chance that a player will fall into our lap at 19.

                                I disagree that the Giants would ever take a guy with character concerns like Ogeltree (who also apparently bombed his interviews at the combine) in the first round.

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