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    I'm really getting the feeling that there's nothing really good that the Giants team needs that really works at #19. Ansah, Johnson, Rhodes, and Richardson will likely be gone (though I would snag any of those in a heartbeat if one of them happened to fall), Fluker and Minter are reaches in the first, I can't really see us taking Eifert in the first even if Bennett walks (JR would give his "JPP of Tight Ends" a chance to shine before taking a TE in round 1), Te'o is a mess mentally and Ogletree is a flat out cancer that we shouldn't even be THINKING of signing. #19 is just really an awkward position for us. Could we maybe find one of the first 6-7 teams to pick and trade our #19 pick for their 2nd (#33-40) and 4th? (or whatever equivalent value the #19 pick brings)
    Last edited by Toadofsteel; 02-27-2013, 04:20 PM.

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    Three teams have 2 2nd round picks.

    Going by the old trade chart, giants pick at 19 is worth 875 points.


    49ers pick at 33 is worth 580, and their pick at 63 is worth 276. Total of 856

    But would there be anyone they would trade up to 19 for? Maybe Rhodes?

    Would love that trade for the giants.


    Cincy is another one - they have pick 37 (value 530) and pick 53 (value 370) total of 900.
    Perhaps they would like to add a DT, or an OL?

    And lastly miami

    Have picks 44 (value 460) and pick 54 (value 360), total of 820.

    Miami certainly would be interested in acquiring a WR, they need an OT if they dont resign Long and dont replace him in FA, and they need corners too

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    • #3
      Eifert is a good pick square in the middle at #19. Miami (and to a lesser extent Cincy) could use a TE...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
        Eifert is a good pick square in the middle at #19. Miami (and to a lesser extent Cincy) could use a TE...
        cincy has jermaine gresham who is young and coming off a pro bowl season.


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        • #5
          Maybe we can try to shop it to the Jets and make them bite on Ogletree. He'd fit right in at that mess of a franchise...

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            they also have orson charles


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
              Maybe we can try to shop it to the Jets and make them bite on Ogletree. He'd fit right in at that mess of a franchise...
              Jets dont have much to offer the giants if they want to move up. Would have to give their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to get back to 19.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                Jets dont have much to offer the giants if they want to move up. Would have to give their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to get back to 19.
                I wasn't serious about that, I was just indicating how much I hate all the Ogletree talk around here...

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                • #9
                  Going to guess that lots of teams are going to want to trade back in this draft. Might not get as much as you would expect as a result.

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                  • #10
                    I think the best chance is Miami. They have 2 seconds and 2 thirds. Maybe the move up for a receiver if they dont get one in FA.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      Three teams have 2 2nd round picks.

                      Going by the old trade chart, giants pick at 19 is worth 875 points.


                      49ers pick at 33 is worth 580, and their pick at 63 is worth 276. Total of 856

                      But would there be anyone they would trade up to 19 for? Maybe Rhodes?

                      Would love that trade for the giants.


                      Cincy is another one - they have pick 37 (value 530) and pick 53 (value 370) total of 900.
                      Perhaps they would like to add a DT, or an OL?

                      And lastly miami

                      Have picks 44 (value 460) and pick 54 (value 360), total of 820.

                      Miami certainly would be interested in acquiring a WR, they need an OT if they dont resign Long and dont replace him in FA, and they need corners too
                      there are possibilities out there, but like you said would there be someone there at 19 that one of those teams would want to trade up for. Thanks for posting that info. I used to have a trade chart saved in one of my files on the computer. Do the values change from year to year in regards to the trade charts?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tonyt830 View Post
                        there are possibilities out there, but like you said would there be someone there at 19 that one of those teams would want to trade up for. Thanks for posting that info. I used to have a trade chart saved in one of my files on the computer. Do the values change from year to year in regards to the trade charts?
                        It always changes. Based on who is there and how many teams want them

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                          It always changes. Based on who is there and how many teams want them
                          so let me get this straight, you said the Giants 19th pick is 875 on the trade value chart, correct. So is that to say that last years 19th pick might have had a value lower or higher, maybe 865 or 890?

                          And I understand that some teams may trade with you and you might get more value(based on the trade chart) if they really want to get their guy.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tonyt830 View Post
                            so let me get this straight, you said the Giants 19th pick is 875 on the trade value chart, correct. So is that to say that last years 19th pick might have had a value lower or higher, maybe 865 or 890?

                            And I understand that some teams may trade with you and you might get more value(based on the trade chart) if they really want to get their guy.
                            The trade value chart is just a rough guide. If there is nobody at 19 that any team wants hey may offer their 2nd and a 6th. Which would be way less than the trade value chart says you deserve. But that's what supply and demand does.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                              Three teams have 2 2nd round picks.

                              Going by the old trade chart, giants pick at 19 is worth 875 points.


                              49ers pick at 33 is worth 580, and their pick at 63 is worth 276. Total of 856

                              But would there be anyone they would trade up to 19 for? Maybe Rhodes?

                              Would love that trade for the giants.


                              Cincy is another one - they have pick 37 (value 530) and pick 53 (value 370) total of 900.
                              Perhaps they would like to add a DT, or an OL?

                              And lastly miami

                              Have picks 44 (value 460) and pick 54 (value 360), total of 820.

                              Miami certainly would be interested in acquiring a WR, they need an OT if they dont resign Long and dont replace him in FA, and they need corners too
                              Thanks for doing the homework on this one! It's seems possible...

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