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  • 2013 NFL Draft: A QB For The Giants?

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl-...arr-zak-dysert

    Excerpt: "In the wake of the news that New York Giants' backup quarterback David Carr intends to take advantage of free agency to see if there is a market for his services, we wrote about potential replacements in the free-agent market?

    What about the other approach to replacing Carr? What about using a mid- to late-round pick on on a quarterback and trying to develop him into a capable understudy for Eli Manning?
    Would the Giants go this route? Why wouldn't they? GM Jerry Reese has tried this route twice, spending a sixth-round pick on Andre Woodson in 2008 and a fifth-round pick on Rhett Bomar in 2009. Neither worked out, however, and the Giants have used the veterans Carr and Sage Rosenfels to caddy for Manning.

    [SB Nation NFL Draft Quarterback Rankings]


    Could Carr's possible departure convince Reese to jump back into the quarterback pool and grab a developmental quarterback? This is not a great year for quarterbacks at the top of the draft, but there are a number of quarterbacks expected to be taken in the mid- to late rounds of the draft." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    I am happy with Carr as a backup because the numbers are manageable, he knows the system and he has some experience. That said, have you watched that guy throw a ball three quarters off his shoulder? No zip at all. If he can get a better deal elsewhere, I am happy for him and his family and totally confident that we can find a equal or better replacement for the same money. I am not sure that the person we are looking for is available in the late rounds as a "project". A project by definition will take some time to develop and is not a sure thing. Our #2 needs to be someone with NFL game experience who can get us through a few games without making bone head plays until Eli returns. No backup is going to take us on a deep run in the playoffs. The salary cap doesn't allow that. If we are going to take a late QB pick in the draft, he will not be our #2 so we need a plan B for that. Not a big deal either way if Carr leaves. There are plenty of guys who can take his place.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jomo View Post
      I am happy with Carr as a backup because the numbers are manageable, he knows the system and he has some experience. That said, have you watched that guy throw a ball three quarters off his shoulder? No zip at all. If he can get a better deal elsewhere, I am happy for him and his family and totally confident that we can find a equal or better replacement for the same money. I am not sure that the person we are looking for is available in the late rounds as a "project". A project by definition will take some time to develop and is not a sure thing. Our #2 needs to be someone with NFL game experience who can get us through a few games without making bone head plays until Eli returns. No backup is going to take us on a deep run in the playoffs. The salary cap doesn't allow that. If we are going to take a late QB pick in the draft, he will not be our #2 so we need a plan B for that. Not a big deal either way if Carr leaves. There are plenty of guys who can take his place.
      You know, Eli has been Mr. Reliable/Durable since we signed him. But how long can we realistically expect that to continue? I believe Reese always has a plan, but I am wondering if he is being lulled into a false sense of QB security.
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
        You know, Eli has been Mr. Reliable/Durable since we signed him. But how long can we realistically expect that to continue? I believe Reese always has a plan, but I am wondering if he is being lulled into a false sense of QB security.
        I agree with that but we need a plan for our future quarterback (may not be a pick this year) and we need a separate plan for who comes in for Eli if he's dinged up this year. They are almost certainly NOT the same person.
        No one remembers who came in second.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jomo View Post
          I agree with that but we need a plan for our future quarterback (may not be a pick this year) and we need a separate plan for who comes in for Eli if he's dinged up this year. They are almost certainly NOT the same person.
          I know it's too early for a "replacement", but I'd like to have confidence that the # 2 could play 4 or 5 games and win better than half of them.
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
            Maybe Tyler Bray? That's about the only mid round QB prospect I could even get semi-excited about lol. If we really are looking for a guy to challenge Curtis Painter, we could probably achieve that with the UDFA route.

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            • #7
              Denard Robinson if he falls to the fifth. But is more like an option QB

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlessedinBlue22 View Post
                Denard Robinson if he falls to the fifth. But is more like an option QB
                That's what we want, an option at QB
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BlessedinBlue22 View Post
                  Denard Robinson if he falls to the fifth. But is more like an option QB
                  He's a really intriguing prospect but he just doesn't scream Giants to me.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                    He's a really intriguing prospect but he just doesn't scream Giants to me.
                    Yea, i think the Giants with their dynamic wideouts, if they can find that russel wilson/RG3 type QB who can scramble and throw down field, we'll be even more awesome on offensive. Because our O-line with the exception of Diehl, pass protects well, and sometimes if nothing is there, a QB that can run for a first down is good too. What about Perriloux, isn't he still on the PS? He has a nice arm.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BlessedinBlue22 View Post
                      Yea, i think the Giants with their dynamic wideouts, if they can find that russel wilson/RG3 type QB who can scramble and throw down field, we'll be even more awesome on offensive. Because our O-line with the exception of Diehl, pass protects well, and sometimes if nothing is there, a QB that can run for a first down is good too. What about Perriloux, isn't he still on the PS? He has a nice arm.
                      I liked what I saw out of Perri too from the previous preseason but I'm not sure if he will ever amount to anything outside of a backup. My favorite current college QB that could add a dynamic twist to our offense in the future would be Marcus Mariota from Oregon. Good frame, has similar mobility skills to Kaepernick, and has the same laser arm too. Even though he would be a 2015 1st rounder, I wouldn't mind taking him and having him sit behind Eli for a year or two.

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                      • #12
                        Its to early to draft Eli's replacement and I don't trust a young late round prospect to be the backup to Eli. It just doesn't makmake sense this year to draft a QB. I'd rather get a veteran qb. Like we did with Carr the last few seasons.

                        And Robinson does not fit our scheme in anyway. That pick would be beyond silly.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          You know, Eli has been Mr. Reliable/Durable since we signed him. But how long can we realistically expect that to continue? I believe Reese always has a plan, but I am wondering if he is being lulled into a false sense of QB security.
                          Like the Colts did.... One year we will learn when we go 2-14 without Eli. Hopefully an Andrew Luck is in the draft though.
                          WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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                          • #14
                            I hate to say this but what about another Duke QB Sean Renfree in the 7th round or as a UDFA?

                            Odds are he's gotta be better then Dave Brown.

                            I don't like that he's only 6'3.

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                            • #15
                              Matt Scott was my guy if we were to go QB in mid to later rds, but hes obviously moved up where i think its to early for us to draft em.. Brad Sorensen is one guy i woulden't mind taking a chance on in the 6th or 7th rd if we so choose to go QB...

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