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  • I don't understand the negativity regarding DJ Fluker

    Title pretty much sums this one up. I don't get why anytime someone mentions DJ Fluker it always follows with "unless we trade back/get him in the 2nd round...etc". Considering we basically have no proven RT right now, it seems like Fluker is a near ideal prospect for the Giants at 19th overall.

    He's a bonafide road grader with mean written all over him. Plus, I have my doubts that anyone carries 340 better than this guy does.

    I've watched tape on this guy and I'm not seeing a whole lot to pick at, but I just want to hear some legitimate concerns and not the usual mocking bird routine that is often apparent around here.

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    i feel hes gonna be a leaky sieve that allows to much pressure from the strongside to be honest.. Just dosen't move as well as i'd like, and i just got a sour taste in my mouth watching him a bit this yr(bama), and seemingly only hereing his name when the line screws up.... Thats why i don't like em, personally..

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    • #3
      He's a terrible pass blocker.

      And RT is not a position you spend a first round pick on, especially 19th.

      If you are drafting a tackle in the first he better be able to play LT

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
        Title pretty much sums this one up. I don't get why anytime someone mentions DJ Fluker it always follows with "unless we trade back/get him in the 2nd round...etc". Considering we basically have no proven RT right now, it seems like Fluker is a near ideal prospect for the Giants at 19th overall.

        He's a bonafide road grader with mean written all over him. Plus, I have my doubts that anyone carries 340 better than this guy does.

        I've watched tape on this guy and I'm not seeing a whole lot to pick at, but I just want to hear some legitimate concerns and not the usual mocking bird routine that is often apparent around here.
        I like him more than most on here and feel he could be an excellent RT for us. With that being said, I feel we should go defense with our first selection and he will not be there in round 2.

        Also, being the worst OL on that Bama line isn't doesn't make you a bad player. They are all beasts.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
          He's a terrible pass blocker.

          And RT is not a position you spend a first round pick on, especially 19th.

          If you are drafting a tackle in the first he better be able to play LT
          I agree.. If i had to take a RT, i said i'd take Menelik Watson over Fluker, because Watson moves alot better in my opinion, and still has upside and could in fact, max out as a LT.. But even then, i woulden't take em, but my point is, thats how little i like Fluker..

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          • #6
            Fair enough in regard to taking a RT in the first, but it fills a direct need and I'm not seeing a "terrible pass blocker". He fared pretty well against Georgia from what I could tell and that is one heck of a defensive front.

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            • #7
              10 years ago (maybe even 5), he would be a surefire 1st round selection but we all know the league is becoming more pass oriented and this requires the RT to have more mobility and feet to mirror edge rushers than they had to in the past. The current trend with new run first teams is even going in this direction where you see lighter OL being drafted to fit into the zone blocking schemes that compliment their dual threat QB. You have to worry how a guy like this will look when he has the tenure a Diehl or Snee has too. I don't even want to think how slow he will be when he is around 30 years old and he would most certainly have to play G.

              The Titans are trying to rebuild their OL so that CJ can get going again. I'd like to see him go there and play G for a year or two until their tackles retire. It would be a great fit for him.

              Edit: He might actually have a better overall career if he plays G permanently. I imagine he could neutralize NTs with ease due to his natural strength and freakish arms. I'd be ok with Fluker ONLY if he came here to play G and was a 3rd round or higher selection. Otherwise, kind of meh on it.
              Last edited by TheEnigma; 03-29-2013, 04:52 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
                Fair enough in regard to taking a RT in the first, but it fills a direct need and I'm not seeing a "terrible pass blocker". He fared pretty well against Georgia from what I could tell and that is one heck of a defensive front.
                A poor pass blocking RT isn't a need. The giants already have Diehl for that.

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                • #9
                  I like him as a last option at #19.. If all the guys JR likes are gone, but No I wouldn't be thrilled with the pick

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    A poor pass blocking RT isn't a need. The giants already have Diehl for that.
                    any good RTs in the draft?

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                    • #11
                      at the 19th pick he is a risk. The downside to his game is that he has questionable athleticism and technique(esp in his feet) in finesse blocks.

                      If you are talking about him in the 2nd, then i can see the risk as acceptable.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
                        Fair enough in regard to taking a RT in the first, but it fills a direct need and I'm not seeing a "terrible pass blocker". He fared pretty well against Georgia from what I could tell and that is one heck of a defensive front.
                        Quantarus smith from western kentucky got him for 3 sacks in a game...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                          Quantarus smith from western kentucky got him for 3 sacks in a game...
                          He looked really really slow in that game

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
                            Fair enough in regard to taking a RT in the first, but it fills a direct need and I'm not seeing a "terrible pass blocker". He fared pretty well against Georgia from what I could tell and that is one heck of a defensive front.
                            You're not seeing it because it's inaccurate. People exaggerate a little to make their points. He needs to improve against speed rushers. That's it. He's great moving forward, but could struggle early against guys that get off the edge fast. I'm not sure you can be projected to be a first round OT and be a terrible pass blocker. He's massive and moves well, just needs a little work on his back pedal. He's only a junior so he's still improving. I'd be happy with him.
                            2017 Mock Draft (Pre-combine / FA):

                            Rd 1: OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
                            Rd 2: Tanoh Kpassagnon (DE, Villanova)
                            Rd 3: Antonio Garcia (OT, Troy)
                            Rd 4: Samaje Perine (RB, Oklahoma)
                            Rd 5: Davis Webb (QB, Cal)
                            Rd 6: Ahkello Witherspoon (CB, Colorado)
                            Rd 7: DJ Jones (DT, Ole Miss)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BlueSabbath View Post
                              He needs to improve against speed rushers.
                              unfortunately for him, every DE in the NFL is a speed rusher.

                              And players almost never gain mobility.... So this "he needs to become faster" thing will never happen.

                              Hes a mauler, great for a team that runs the ball all game. Similar to the 49ers anthony davis (who also went first round).

                              But the giants are a passing team. A run first guy who struggles to pass protect just does not fit very well.

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