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  • #91
    Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
    I have seen Fluker himself say he can play Left Tackle, Which is what I would expect. i have not seen any reputable scouts or team reps say it.
    This isn't what I was talking about, but here's something...http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/te...-j-fluker.html

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    • #92
      Originally posted by juice33s View Post
      This isn't what I was talking about, but here's something...http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/te...-j-fluker.html
      Again, that is an piece quoting Fluker himself.

      I am sorry, I have to sound the BS horn. You are the 2nd person in this thread who has made the left tackle claim who was been unable to support it.

      Fluker is a right tackle and possibly a guard. Lets not turn him into something he isnt.

      If I were to rate him as a left tackle, it would be on measurables alone. Which arent even that good considering he had a weight problem during the season. He might be a 5th rounder as a backup left tackle if someone was feeling like a gamble. In no way does he have the feet to play LT.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by juice33s View Post
        I got better things to do then walk you through a tape. Just keep in mind Fluker is perhaps the biggest riser in the draft who now looks like he'll go top 15. NFL team's like him as an LT and I just showed you a game where he single handily shut down the drafts best speed rusher...I have nothing more to say on the subject


        Lol. That's all I can say.

        Mingo has like two snaps direct against fluker on that last drive and gets pressure both times.

        But sure, he "shut him down" because they were quick throws and screens, and a combo of other things.

        And sure, fluker is a top 10 LT. Just not in reality.

        These late "risers" are more agent chatter than actual evaluation.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by juice33s View Post
          That's bs dude, I watched both that one and the Montgomery vs Bama tape and Bama barely if ever gave help on Flukers man and he barely gave up a pressure if any at all against one of this drafts best pure speed rushers...Something that ppl on this board seem to think he can't do, so much for that nonsense...Just leave it to the professional scouts, there's a reason this guy is a 1st round lock and has a team in the top 10 "In love with him."
          The idea that he is a "first round lock" and a "fast riser" and has a team in the top 10 "in love with him" is all just based upon media speculation. I wouldn't believe any of it.

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          • #95
            I don't know how anyone can watch Fluker flail his arms in an attempt to gain momentum in his stone footed drop back, and call him a LT with all seriousness. Not to mention he was supplemented with Michael Williams and Brian Volger for a fair bit.

            Didn't AJ McCarron play the last 6 games with injured ribs on a sack allowed by Fluker in the Mississippi St. game?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              Lol. That's all I can say.

              Mingo has like two snaps direct against fluker on that last drive and gets pressure both times.

              But sure, he "shut him down" because they were quick throws and screens, and a combo of other things.

              And sure, fluker is a top 10 LT. Just not in reality.

              These late "risers" are more agent chatter than actual evaluation.
              I really wouldn't be surprised to see Fluker drop well into the second round.
              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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              • #97
                The tape shows it all....Fluker DOMINATED Mingo

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                  I really wouldn't be surprised to see Fluker drop well into the second round.


                  Won't drop out of the Top 20

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    Lol. That's all I can say.

                    Mingo has like two snaps direct against fluker on that last drive and gets pressure both times.

                    But sure, he "shut him down" because they were quick throws and screens, and a combo of other things.

                    And sure, fluker is a top 10 LT. Just not in reality.

                    These late "risers" are more agent chatter than actual evaluation.

                    The Giants offense is not a shotgun offense....so Fluker would never be used in the way you describe

                    We are primarily a base formation, power running team

                    Fluker is a perfect fit

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                    • Originally posted by EliManningUp View Post
                      The tape shows it all....Fluker DOMINATED Mingo
                      Here's another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3VF1vkiKFo This time vs Damontre Moore and once again Bama leaves Fluker on an island against one of the nations best pass rushers and once again lets his man barely sniff the QB

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                      • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                        Here's another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3VF1vkiKFo This time vs Damontre Moore and once again Bama leaves Fluker on an island against one of the nations best pass rushers and once again lets his man barely sniff the QB

                        Yup

                        There is more to pass-blocking than quick feet, especially for a right tackle. Right tackles do not face pure speed rushers all that often in the NFL.

                        His upper/lower body strength and leverage doesn't allow his guy to cave the pocket....the only way to beat him is get AROUND him...which happens rarely to begin with

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                        • Theres no doubt Fluker has some ability, obviously, or we'd not be talking about him period,b ut overall, i feel he lacks nessecary effort snap in and snap out, and don't think hes gonna consistently be able to keep NFL pass rushers from beating him on the edge... Inside i could see him making a living in the pros..

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                          • And this notion that "We have an elite QB and a pass-happy offense so pass-blocking is more important" is false

                            We are in the bottom half of the league in terms of 3/4/5 receiver sets

                            Scroll down

                            https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-april-9-2013/

                            Giants lined up in 3 WR sets 490 times and in 4 WR sets 22 times

                            The 512 total is 19th in the league

                            So the offense is still mostly base formation

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                            • And what about the intangibles that Fluker brings?

                              He has experience on championship teams and has played numerous games on the biggest of stages

                              He has a tough, physical presence about him that lifts the morale of the entire offensive line, and hence the entire offense

                              He has great work ethic and is very coachable. He gives off that "humble giant" vibe that is lovable.

                              He is a LEADER, most importantly

                              These intangibles should not be ignored.

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                              • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                                Here's another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3VF1vkiKFo This time vs Damontre Moore and once again Bama leaves Fluker on an island against one of the nations best pass rushers and once again lets his man barely sniff the QB

                                Just watch the play at 5:48....look how long Fluker holds his block against Moore....he completely engulfs Moore

                                That's what I'm talking about in terms of his pass-blocking...Fluker has a wide base, long arms, and phenomenal strength. He can engulf defenders like that.

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