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  • Bones911
    started a topic For those who want Ogletree

    For those who want Ogletree

    Per Rotoworld:

    NFL Network's Mike Mayock says he is "scared to death" of Georgia LB Alec Ogletree as a first-round pick due both to off- and on-field concerns.
    Ogletree is a candidate to slide out of the first round because his character is a nightmare. "Im scared to death about Ogletree, both for on- and off-the-field issues," Mayock said. "When you put the tape on, he has no clue what hes doing. He looks like a safety that somebody plugged inside at inside linebacker. He just runs around." Mayock also called Ogletree's work ethic and passion for the game "question marks right now."

  • Toadofsteel
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    I missed it but heard some of it on the radio. I was on the road all day picking up a freinds kid in PA and hes a cowboys fan , so we shared a bit, with his team getting more air time because of where they are opposed to us in standings. I heard bits and pieces about a fray though. Can anyone enlighten me on who and what went down?
    Ogletree nearly laid out Odell about 7 yards outside the sideline. Benches clear.

    And people laughed at me when I said character issues.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    I missed it but heard some of it on the radio. I was on the road all day picking up a freinds kid in PA and hes a cowboys fan , so we shared a bit, with his team getting more air time because of where they are opposed to us in standings. I heard bits and pieces about a fray though. Can anyone enlighten me on who and what went down?

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  • slipknottin
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    Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
    So how do you ****ers feel about Ogletree now?
    eh, players that are coached by Fisher and Greg Williams usually play like total *****s.

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  • Toadofsteel
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    So how do you ****ers feel about Ogletree now?

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  • BlueSabbath
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    Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    he constantly takes bad angles and well, just looks lost. he makes flashy, jump out at u type plays. but again, for every 1 of those, theres 5 plays where he takes wasted steps, a bad angle, and just seems to be running around w/o purpose, attacking wrong gaps...big risk with him, but big reward comes with it
    I guess he got all those tackles because players just ran into him while he was out of place.

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  • giantsfan420
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    he constantly takes bad angles and well, just looks lost. he makes flashy, jump out at u type plays. but again, for every 1 of those, theres 5 plays where he takes wasted steps, a bad angle, and just seems to be running around w/o purpose, attacking wrong gaps...big risk with him, but big reward comes with it

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
    And thus the difference between a good blocker and a good MLBer
    Its football, u win some u lose some.. Just the way it goes...

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  • BlueSanta
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Polian , Jason Taylor, and Kiper were saying that bama line was probably the best in college football history.. Kinda tells u what everyone was going up against..
    I agree with 'em. In fact I have said that very thing here in the past. That was the single best offensive line I have ever seen in college.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by BlueSabbath View Post
    "BAAAAAAAAAAAD"??! Pardon me, but i don't think you know what you're talking about.

    You dont' get as many tackles he has if you can't get off of a block. Even in that Alabama game (which I have watched about 5 times) he still manages to make plays after being blocked. Keep in mind he's new to the position and all those guys on that Alabama line are 1st and 2nd round draft picks. There's also a such thing as gap discipline. And as mentioned, players are going to get blocked all the time. Find me the best MLB of all time and I'll show you plays he gets blocked in.
    Polian , Jason Taylor, and Kiper were saying that bama line was probably the best in college football history.. Kinda tells u what everyone was going up against..

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by giantsfam04 View Post
    Mayock dropped him to 3rd on MLB list behind Te'o and Minter.

    mike-mayock-lifts-dj-hayden-in-draft-prospect-rankings
    Ya, Bill Polian and Mel Kiper were raving about em , and they said that if he didn't have off field charechter concerns, he'd be going even higher then where they had em going, and they had em going to the bengals..

    And they said MLB, because they felt Cincy could better themselves with a "true" mlb like ogletree and move burfict outside.. So i guess its each his own..

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  • giantsfam04
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    Mayock dropped him to 3rd on MLB list behind Te'o and Minter.

    mike-mayock-lifts-dj-hayden-in-draft-prospect-rankings

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  • giantsfam04
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    Mayock dropped him to 3rd on MLB list behind Te'o and Minter.

    mike-mayock-lifts-dj-hayden-in-draft-prospect-rankings

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  • myles2424
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    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
    Ogletree is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD when you get a man on him. He gets taken totally out of the play.

    Just so there isn't an equivocation on my part ... in traffic on a run without a clear path to the ball carrier: He's bad, a liability, awful, MIA, and a missing person.

    I highlighted several times in the Bama video that showed exactly what I'm talking about.
    Please hurry down to headquarters & kick the door down in the NYG draft room and let them know this top secret intel that you've acquired before they make a terrible mistake.....Because apparently he's considered a top 15 talent among scouts/draft gurus, you need to spread the word, and quick!!!

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  • BlueSabbath
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Ogletree is good in run support... U guys act like just becasue hes not super great at disengaging, it means hes bad in run support, but hes not.. He can stop backs in there tracks, and can track em down from just about anywhere on the field, and can lay the wood... He just goes about it in a diffrent way then most prototypical MLB's is all.. Hes certainly not a weakness against the run by any stretch...
    No dude, he was 3rd in the SEC in solo tackles (despite missing 4 games) at LB because he sucks in run support and can't get off a block.

    Some people should just leave player evaluation alone.

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