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  • Reality - Linebacker and Corner were already set before the draft, NOT need positions

    I don't know why everyone is screaming for a linebacker or corner....neither position was a need

    SLB - Rivers/Kiwi
    MLB - Connor/Herzlich
    WLB - Williams/Paysinger

    Outside of Ogletree, no other linebacker in this draft would start over Rivers/Connor/Williams.


    Corner - Prince/Webster/Hosley/Ross/Thomas

    We already spent high picks in the 2011 (Prince) and 2012 (Hosley) drafts on young corners. You have to give these guys a chance to grow. Webster is counted on to bounce back. Ross is very underrated as a #4 corner - look at the 2nd half of 2011 especially the SB run, he was practically lights out for us, and he was starting then.


    Our linebackers were hurt last year because our DTs were getting blown off the ball and not eating up space. Our corners were hurt last year because our DTs were getting zero push up the middle and QBs threw from a clean pocket. Our front office realized that, and went all in to fix the DT position, feeling that it will directly improve the LBs and CBs.

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    None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense

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    • #3
      Arthur Brown would start over Connor.

      I argued awhile ago that they probably wouldnt draft or didnt need a CB, at least not this season, but LB a couple guys could have stepped in and started.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
        None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense
        I think with a quicker pass rush, that stat would change. More effective pass rush = Lb'ers can concentrate on run 1st and with that comes the secondary being able to position themselves for the pass. I think If our pass rush gets better the rest will fall into line.
        "KILL'EM ALL AND LET THE PARAMEDICS SORT'EM OUT!"

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        • #5
          honestly.. is there a group of worse starting LBs in the league?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
            Arthur Brown would start over Connor.

            I argued awhile ago that they probably wouldnt draft or didnt need a CB, at least not this season, but LB a couple guys could have stepped in and started.

            Absolutely not. Connor with his experience, smarts, and run-stopping ability is fine at MLB.

            Arthur Brown would have been a lateral move.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
              honestly.. is there a group of worse starting LBs in the league?
              No, and I dont think its even close.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by EliManningUp View Post
                Absolutely not. Connor with his experience, smarts, and run-stopping ability is fine at MLB.

                Arthur Brown would have been a lateral move.
                Connor the guy on his third team in three years? Yea hes a stud.

                Arthur Brown will go to multiple probowls.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
                  None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense

                  Because our DTs sucked. In a 4-3 defense, when your DTs suck, it will make your LBs/CBs look bad.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
                    honestly.. is there a group of worse starting LBs in the league?

                    They were hurt last year by Blackburn and Boley. Both were awful. Neither are on the team.

                    Losing Blackburn/Boley = addition by subtraction.

                    Simply not having those 2 guys starting, already improves the LB core by a lot.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      Connor the guy on his third team in three years? Yea hes a stud.

                      Arthur Brown will go to multiple probowls.


                      The reason he's on his 3rd team, is because his 2nd team played a 3-4 defense which he doesn't fit.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                        Connor the guy on his third team in three years? Yea hes a stud.

                        Arthur Brown will go to multiple probowls.
                        I think Connor will be an upgrade over Blackburn, but Brown would have been a stud!!

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                        • #13
                          Our LBs suck & can't stay healthy....there's a reason their original teams were ok with them leaving...
                          CBs, we only have 1 good one...if your ok with this, so be it..

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EliManningUp View Post
                            The reason he's on his 3rd team, is because his 2nd team played a 3-4 defense which he doesn't fit.
                            You mean the cowboys? Who are moving to a 4-3? Yea sure, lets say they cut him before they realized he would fit.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                              Our LBs suck & can't stay healthy....there's a reason their original teams were ok with them leaving...
                              CBs, we only have 1 good one...if your ok with this, so be it..

                              Both units looked worse because of how inept our DL was.

                              You fix the DL, you directly improve both units.

                              We have talent at LB and CB.

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