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  • #16
    Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
    I'm thinking he could drop into second round
    He could, and u wanna take him with that? Instead of taking an olineman like we need. Eli still has good years in him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by experto View Post
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNKjjiQL8tk Watch this 10 plays and then tell me if this is game manager or an elite down field thrower?
      I don't have to watch that video. I've watched nearly every Alabama game for past three years.
      "You killed my family, and I don't like that kind of thing."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by B-Red22 View Post
        Ya with the best defense in college behind him every single year he has played.
        He is surrounded by the most talent in college football looks like a back up to me

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        • #19
          I'd be ok with McCarron actually.. Hes got a bit of size to em, is deadly accurate, isn't a total statue, albeit hes not fleet of foot, and hes a winner. I could see him win alot of games with smart, savy football, simialr to Andy Dalton, but maybe a tad less pick prone.

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          • #20
            His NFL value will be decided after the season is over and he gets evaluated in senior bowls and other "draft season" events where he doesn't have multiple Heisman candidates in the backfield behind him, or multiple Outland trophy candidates on the Oline in front of him.

            There are some problems with him though. 1) He stares WRs down. 2) Alabama's offense does not heap a lot on QBs. It is a pretty basic pass offense for QBs. Often there is just 1 read and 2 progressions. If A is open throw it there if not then dump it off to B or throw it away. Lastly, he doesn't have a lot of experienced being uncomfortable. He almost always has 4+ seconds to throw. He rarely has to slide or step up into the pocket because of pressure. When he does a play action to a guy like Mark Ingram, or Trent Richardson, or Eddie lacy, teams absolutely must respect that fake.

            That is why it is nearly impossible to really evaluate him. He basically doesn't play in NFL conditions. There are some things to like. But he wont ever be an early pick unless he partakes in things like the senior bowl and scouts love what they see.
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            • #21
              might be a good guy to land on the chiefs and learn behind alex smith for a few years

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              • #22
                Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                I'd be ok with McCarron actually.. Hes got a bit of size to em, is deadly accurate, isn't a total statue, albeit hes not fleet of foot, and hes a winner. I could see him win alot of games with smart, savy football, simialr to Andy Dalton, but maybe a tad less pick prone.
                He is a less athletic version of Dalton

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                  He is a less athletic version of Dalton
                  If you can win with Dalton, i see no reason you can't win with AJ McCarron. McCarron is a big taller and a bit more accurate also. And as you said, alittle less athletic though then Dalton. I like him better then i do Ryan Nassib.. I'd have no issue if the giants drafted AJ McCarron in RD2.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                    If you can win with Dalton, i see no reason you can't win with AJ McCarron. McCarron is a big taller and a bit more accurate also. And as you said, alittle less athletic though then Dalton. I like him better then i do Ryan Nassib.. I'd have no issue if the giants drafted AJ McCarron in RD2.
                    Im not really sure u can win with Dalton. He is surrounded with a lot of talent if he cant get it done with that team you have to wonder if he will ever be able to win. I dont get using a 2nd round pick on a QB who almost guaranteed wont be better than Eli. If im taking a QB im not playing around im taking a high ceiling player
                    Last edited by Redeyejedi; 10-23-2013, 09:57 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                      Im not really sure u can win with Dalton. He is surrounded with a lot of talent if he cant get it done with that team you have to wonder if he will ever be able to win. I dont get using a 2nd round pick on a QB who almost guaranteed wont be better than Eli. If im taking a QB im not playing around im taking a high ceiling player
                      Well said.
                      "You killed my family, and I don't like that kind of thing."

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                        Im not really sure u can win with Dalton. He is surrounded with a lot of talent if he cant get it done with that team you have to wonder if he will ever be able to win. I dont get using a 2nd round pick on a QB who almost guaranteed wont be better than Eli. If im taking a QB im not playing around im taking a high ceiling player
                        I think McCarron is better then ELI in some regard. First off, he dosen't give the defense multiple extra chances throughout a game, when any extra possesion can mean losing or winning. Hes not quite as statuesque as ELI is either. Sure, hes slow footed, but he moves a bit better then ELI. I think hes a smarter QB then ELI. I think hes more accurate then ELI is as well. Now, he dosen't have the deep ball that ELI has, nor does he have the arm strength of ELI, but he is better then ELI at a few things, i believe.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                          I think McCarron is better then ELI in some regard. First off, he dosen't give the defense multiple extra chances throughout a game, when any extra possesion can mean losing or winning. Hes not quite as statuesque as ELI is either. Sure, hes slow footed, but he moves a bit better then ELI. I think hes a smarter QB then ELI. I think hes more accurate then ELI is as well. Now, he dosen't have the deep ball that ELI has, nor does he have the arm strength of ELI, but he is better then ELI at a few things, i believe.


                          how is an unproven college player better than a 2 time superbowl mvp QB?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Giantsrangers View Post
                            how is an unproven college player better than a 2 time superbowl mvp QB?
                            I didn't say he was better. I said he was better in some aspects. It dosen't mean he won't lack in arm strength and being able to go downfield with enough zip on his balls to the degree of not even being able to make it in the pros. But his plus's, are hes deadly accurate and extremely smart with the football..

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                              I didn't say he was better. I said he was better in some aspects. It dosen't mean he won't lack in arm strength and being able to go downfield with enough zip on his balls to the degree of not even being able to make it in the pros. But his plus's, are hes deadly accurate and extremely smart with the football..
                              It's pathetic how you bash Eli over and over. He is a special player no matter how many picks he throws. He is a risk taker and in order to win championships you have to be willing to gamble. Sometimes it goes right and sometimes it doesn't. However, every season that we have Eli on the field is a season in which we have a chance to bring home the Lombardi. That is what matters. Not his limitations as an athlete or runner which ultimately gets qb hurt anyway. We need help at a lot of positions. Eli should be last on the list....


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mlerman17 View Post
                                It's pathetic how you bash Eli over and over. He is a special player no matter how many picks he throws. He is a risk taker and in order to win championships you have to be willing to gamble. Sometimes it goes right and sometimes it doesn't. However, every season that we have Eli on the field is a season in which we have a chance to bring home the Lombardi. That is what matters. Not his limitations as an athlete or runner which ultimately gets qb hurt anyway. We need help at a lot of positions. Eli should be last on the list....
                                ELI should be the last on the list? Hes gonna be 33yrs old next yr, and is on pace for 40plus picks..lol Its not bashing, its called not being sentimental about players and getting prepared for the future..

                                I'm bashing em, because i think QB should be in our thought process. Wow, i'm just a basher.(sarcasm)

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