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  • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    No one had posted this yet. I swear are these NC players stupid or what. A year after half the team gets suspended now its Coples Turn.




    http://nflmocks.com/2011/05/22/nfl-a...ore-on-bowers/







    Suspended ispremature, but according to college football talk, North Carolina Defensive End Quinton Coples was interviewed this week about a party he attended with former suspended Tar Heels Robert Quinn and Marvin Austin. At this point Coples is Mel Kiper Jr.’s number two overall rated prospect for the 2012 N.F.L. Draft. Coples had 10 sacks last year and has good size for a defensive end, he’s listed at 6’6 275 pounds.




    This would be another major blow to a program that has done an excellent job of assembling N.F.L. talent recently. Last year’s scandal ruined the Tar Heels chance of contending for a B.C.S. Bowl game. Hopefully everything went well in Coples interview with the N.C.A.A. representative and we can all enjoy watching and scouting him on the field this upcoming season.




    How did the N.C.A.A. know that Coples attended a party that he could have received benefits through his former teammates? Facebook photos. Other than Mark Zuckerberg has facebook improved anyone’s life in a good way?







    FACEBOOKand TWITTER every freakin time .I swear these guys have holes in there brain.




    [/quote] There dumber then the dumbest of human beings, thats for sure... Its mind boggling how dumb these guys can be, and people wonder, why most think there breezed through school because of sports since about 5th grade...lol
    [/quote]




    Who knows maybe he thinks its a good idea to get suspended hell Quinn went at 14, Austin at 52 and Little at 59.

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    • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

      [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


      No one had posted this yet. I swear are these NC players stupid or what. A year after half the team gets suspended now its Coples Turn.




      http://nflmocks.com/2011/05/22/nfl-a...ore-on-bowers/







      Suspended ispremature, but according to college football talk, North Carolina Defensive End Quinton Coples was interviewed this week about a party he attended with former suspended Tar Heels Robert Quinn and Marvin Austin. At this point Coples is Mel Kiper Jr.’s number two overall rated prospect for the 2012 N.F.L. Draft. Coples had 10 sacks last year and has good size for a defensive end, he’s listed at 6’6 275 pounds.




      This would be another major blow to a program that has done an excellent job of assembling N.F.L. talent recently. Last year’s scandal ruined the Tar Heels chance of contending for a B.C.S. Bowl game. Hopefully everything went well in Coples interview with the N.C.A.A. representative and we can all enjoy watching and scouting him on the field this upcoming season.




      How did the N.C.A.A. know that Coples attended a party that he could have received benefits through his former teammates? Facebook photos. Other than Mark Zuckerberg has facebook improved anyone’s life in a good way?







      FACEBOOKand TWITTER every freakin time .I swear these guys have holes in there brain.




      [/quote] There dumber then the dumbest of human beings, thats for sure... Its mind boggling how dumb these guys can be, and people wonder, why most think there breezed through school because of sports since about 5th grade...lol
      [/quote]




      Who knows maybe he thinks its a good idea to get suspended hell Quinn went at 14, Austin at 52 and Little at 59.

      [/quote]
      And he doesnt run the risk of injury..

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      • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

        So, who do we like for the 32nd overall pick next year?

        Right now, my mock draft has us taking:

        1)BPA
        2)BPA (got a 2nd from Denver for Cofield)
        2)BPA
        3)BPA
        4)BPA
        5)BPA
        6)BPA
        7)BPA

        That being said, After watching RedEye's vids, I like LB's Luke Kuechly and Vontaze Burfict. Kuechly is has great technique, and looks solid in coverage, while Burfict has that mean streak the defense lacks at the moment.

        Also Micheal Egnew (TE) looks like a Reese player. Big, fast, with big hands and long arms.

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        • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

          [quote user="Raptor22"]So, who do we like for the 32nd overall pick next year?

          Right now, my mock draft has us taking:

          1)BPA
          2)BPA (got a 2nd from Denver for Cofield)
          2)BPA
          3)BPA
          4)BPA
          5)BPA
          6)BPA
          7)BPA

          That being said, After watching RedEye's vids, I like LB's Luke Kuechly and Vontaze Burfict. Kuechly is has great technique, and looks solid in coverage, while Burfict has that mean streak the defense lacks at the moment.

          Also Micheal Egnew (TE) looks like a Reese player. Big, fast, with big hands and long arms.
          [/quote]
          So far my 2 fav's for our 2012 first round pick are LB Vontaze Burfict and RB Trent Richardson

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          • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

            are the tight ends next year gonna be as good as the class of 2010?

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            • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

              [quote user="nevada11"]are the tight ends next year gonna be as good as the class of 2010?[/quote]TE is a dying position it seems. There arent many guys that are a good combination of blocking and receiving.

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                [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nevada11"]are the tight ends next year gonna be as good as the class of 2010?[/quote]TE is a dying position it seems. There arent many guys that are a good combination of blocking and receiving.[/quote]
                Keep and eye on Dwayne Allen from Clemson, the man looks like hes chiseled from stone:
                This from scout.com
                TE DWAYNE ALLEN - (6-4, 255)

                Make no mistake, Allen will have enough passes thrown his way to shatter
                Michael Palmer's reception record for a tight end in 2009 (43).
                Assuming his hands are as good as advertised, it wouldn't be a stretch
                to suggest Allen could haul in 50 or 55 passes this season. Simply put,
                if Clemson's offense is going to come anywhere close to its production
                from a year ago, Allen will be a major reason why.


                and walterfootball:
                Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson

                Height: 6-4. Weight: 255.
                Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
                Projected Round (2012): 2.



                5/20/11: Dwayne Allen set the record for most receiving yardage
                for a sophomore tight end in Clemson history; he caught 31 balls for
                356 yards.



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                • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft



                  [quote user="juice33s"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nevada11"]are the tight ends next year gonna be as good as the class of 2010?[/quote]TE is a dying position it seems. There arent many guys that are a good combination of blocking and receiving.[/quote]
                  Keep and eye on Dwayne Allen from Clemson, the man looks like hes chiseled from stone:
                  This from scout.com
                  TE DWAYNE ALLEN - (6-4, 255)
                  Make no mistake, Allen will have enough passes thrown his way to shatter Michael Palmer's reception record for a tight end in 2009 (43). Assuming his hands are as good as advertised, it wouldn't be a stretch to suggest Allen could haul in 50 or 55 passes this season. Simply put, if Clemson's offense is going to come anywhere close to its production from a year ago, Allen will be a major reason why.

                  and walterfootball:
                  Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson
                  Height: 6-4. Weight: 255.
                  Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
                  Projected Round (2012): 2.

                  5/20/11: Dwayne Allen set the record for most receiving yardage for a sophomore tight end in Clemson history; he caught 31 balls for 356 yards.

                  [/quote]




                  Yeah Allen is pretty good and George Bryan from NC State looks like an NFL Starter but these other guys like Egnew are just Big receivers. They rarely if ever block. There are becoming fewer and fewer guys like Brandon Petigrew out there.

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                  • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

                    Also keep an eye on the Michigan State TE Dion Sims. The Former basketball player missed the 2010 season b/c of suspension (theft of laptop), but the guy looks to be a real physical specimen standing at 6'6" and weighing around 270-280

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                    • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

                      [quote user="juice33s"]Also keep an eye on the Michigan State TE Dion Sims. The Former basketball player missed the 2010 season b/c of suspension (theft of laptop), but the guy looks to be a real physical specimen standing at 6'6" and weighing around 270-280
                      [/quote]

                      Ooo... big former basketball player. That would be a guy to watch out for.

                      Just in case anyone cares, CBSsports has their stupidly early 2012 mock's out... both mocks have the Giants drafting a linebacker at 18. One has Jerry taking Zach Brown, the other has Vontaze Burfict (the first draft has Burfict going to the jets at 32... I think he's got his NY teams confused).


                      Side Note: Any other news on Quenton Coples? Anyone think JR would waste half a second sprinting to the podium if he takes the Austin route and is around in the 2nd?

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                      • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

                        Underclassmen to keep your eye on

                        Arthur and Bryce Brown, ILB/RB, Kansas State
                        Both Brown
                        brothers were among the top prospects in the country in their
                        recruiting class out of Wichita East High School -- Arthur as a
                        linebacker in 2008 and Bryce at running back in 2009. After
                        originally signing with Miami (Fla.) and Tennessee, respectively,
                        they find themselves together again in Manhattan, much closer to
                        home. Scouts took note of their performances in the Wildcats'
                        spring game, as redshirt junior Arthur posted 14 stops (nearly
                        matching the 17 stops he had for Miami in 2008-2009) and redshirt
                        sophomore Brown gained 73 yards and scored twice. Though Arthur is
                        undersized at 6-feet-1, 225 pounds, his speed and explosive
                        tackling could earn him a high grade with a strong junior year.
                        Bryce will be compared to former KSU back and Miami Dolphins
                        second-round pick Daniel Thomas, but his size (6-0, 220), speed and
                        running style might be closer to Oklahoma Sooners star and future
                        Dallas Cowboy DeMarco Murray.

                        Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia
                        A
                        redshirt sophomore, Geathers has NFL lineage to go with his 6-6,
                        326-pound frame. His brothers Robert and Clifton followed their
                        uncle "Jumpy" to the NFL. Geathers made the coaches All-SEC
                        Freshman team despite only seven tackles in eight games last
                        season, but really excelled in the spring, winning the team's
                        Defensive MVP award. His height, strength and ability to clog running
                        lanes and push the pocket from the middle might remind scouts of
                        former SEC underclass first-rounders like John Henderson and
                        Albert Haynesworth.



                        Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State
                        The Nittany Lions
                        will be "Linebacker U" again if Hodges can blossom into the
                        playmaker the team needs next to steady performers Michael Mauti
                        and Nathan Stupar. The former safety had 31 tackles, 2˝ for loss,
                        in eight games last year but now has a chance to star as the
                        weak-side starter. His tape in the team's Outback Bowl loss to
                        Florida offered glimpses of the force he could become as a chase
                        'backer attacking run plays behind the line. He can quickly cover
                        his third of the field with sub-4.6 speed. Coaches say he has made
                        progress in understanding his role on defense during the
                        offseason.



                        Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy
                        The
                        next Troy pass rusher went Fairley's route, attending Butler
                        County Community College out of high school and racking up 11˝
                        sacks in his only season there. After redshirting in 2009, he
                        busted out with an All-Sun Belt season (20˝ tackles for loss, 13˝
                        sacks) by using a strong first step and low center of gravity to
                        turn the corner as a pass rusher. Before the Liberia native joins
                        cousins Visanthe Shiancoe (Minnesota Vikings tight end) and
                        Mohamed Massaquoi (Cleveland Browns wide receiver) in the NFL, he'll
                        need to use his hands to disengage from blockers more consistently.
                        But like last year, when defensive tackle Mohammed Wilkerson
                        really made his name as Temple took on Penn State early in the
                        season, Massaquoi has two chances to impress scouts in September
                        road games at Clemson and Arkansas. Big performances in one or
                        both contests against ACC and SEC competition will get him on the
                        top-50 radar.



                        Brandon McGee, CB, Miami (Fla.)
                        McGee
                        couldn't get on the field regularly with junior All-ACC pick
                        Brandon Harris and seniors Demarcus Van Dyke and Ryan Hill in
                        front of him on the depth chart last season. He has only 17 career
                        tackles and two pass breakups, which is miniscule production
                        considering McGee played in 21 games his first two years on campus
                        and has the size/speed combination (6-0/190/4.32) scouts expect
                        to find when they arrive in Coral Gables each fall. With junior
                        safeties Ray-Ray Armstrong and Vaughn Telemaque playing behind him and
                        defensive-minded head coach Al Golden now in the fold, McGee has
                        the license to play aggressively on the outside.



                        Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
                        Somewhat
                        hidden inside in Texas' hybrid defensive scheme, Okafor moves
                        outside to take over for Sam Acho. In this spot, Okafor should
                        unleash his power and quickness off the edge to harass opposing
                        quarterbacks. He actually started his assault early, racking up
                        four sacks in the team's spring game. Okafor won't be the only
                        breakout performer on the Longhorns' defense, but he'll be the one
                        monitored closely by NFL observers. True sophomores Jackson Jeffcoat
                        (defensive end) and Ashton Dorsey (defensive tackle) must wait until
                        after at least the 2012 season before they can declare for the
                        draft.

                        Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
                        Last season was supposed to be
                        Sanu's breakout campaign, a follow-up to the great potential he showed
                        as a rushing/receiving/Wildcat quarterback as a freshman.
                        Hamstring and leg injuries limited him, however, in the second
                        half of 2010 so he managed only 418 yards and two touchdowns on 44
                        receptions. Even with the transfer of Tom Savage, Sanu should
                        still be a main target for Chas Dodd and the Scarlet Knights
                        offense. A productive, healthy 2011 displaying his strong hands
                        and tough running after the catch will put him in the conversation
                        for a late first- or early second-round draft slot.

                        Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
                        While all of the talk in
                        the Evergreen State surrounded Huskies quarterback Jake Locker in
                        recent seasons, Tuel quietly had a pretty good sophomore season in
                        2010. He completed 59.8 percent of his passes for 2,780 yards and
                        18 touchdowns -- better marks than his hyped in-state rival.
                        Tuel's mobility and touch on fades and deep passes are impressive,
                        as is his competitive nature on the field; like Locker, he'll
                        need to take better care of his body when scrambling. He has
                        gotten stronger this offseason, so more consistency driving the
                        ball downfield and eliminating the interceptions (12 in 2010) as
                        he matures will earn him top grades from NFL scouts in the 2012 or
                        2013 draft.

                        David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
                        Despite
                        Wilson being stuck in a rotation with Darren Evans and Ryan
                        Williams, and thus getting less than nine carries a game, he
                        flashed a burst indicative of his 4.3 speed and some toughness to
                        bounce off tackles and even carry a defender over the first-down
                        marker. His two kickoff returns for touchdowns also showed scouts
                        how difficult it is to get the angle on him in the open field.
                        Head coach Frank Beamer will split carries between Wilson and
                        senior Josh Oglesby this year, but an increased workload and steady
                        improvement in his cut decisiveness could boost him into the top 40
                        (where Williams was drafted by Arizona in April).


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                          [quote user="Raptor22"]Underclassmen to keep your eye on

                          Arthur and Bryce Brown, ILB/RB, Kansas State
                          Both Brown brothers were among the top prospects in the country in their recruiting class out of Wichita East High School -- Arthur as a linebacker in 2008 and Bryce at running back in 2009. After originally signing with Miami (Fla.) and Tennessee, respectively, they find themselves together again in Manhattan, much closer to home. Scouts took note of their performances in the Wildcats' spring game, as redshirt junior Arthur posted 14 stops (nearly matching the 17 stops he had for Miami in 2008-2009) and redshirt sophomore Brown gained 73 yards and scored twice. Though Arthur is undersized at 6-feet-1, 225 pounds, his speed and explosive tackling could earn him a high grade with a strong junior year. Bryce will be compared to former KSU back and Miami Dolphins second-round pick Daniel Thomas, but his size (6-0, 220), speed and running style might be closer to Oklahoma Sooners star and future Dallas Cowboy DeMarco Murray.


                          Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia
                          A redshirt sophomore, Geathers has NFL lineage to go with his 6-6, 326-pound frame. His brothers Robert and Clifton followed their uncle "Jumpy" to the NFL. Geathers made the coaches All-SEC Freshman team despite only seven tackles in eight games last season, but really excelled in the spring, winning the team's Defensive MVP award. His height, strength and ability to clog running lanes and push the pocket from the middle might remind scouts of former SEC underclass first-rounders like John Henderson and Albert Haynesworth.




                          Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State
                          The Nittany Lions will be "Linebacker U" again if Hodges can blossom into the playmaker the team needs next to steady performers Michael Mauti and Nathan Stupar. The former safety had 31 tackles, 2˝ for loss, in eight games last year but now has a chance to star as the weak-side starter. His tape in the team's Outback Bowl loss to Florida offered glimpses of the force he could become as a chase 'backer attacking run plays behind the line. He can quickly cover his third of the field with sub-4.6 speed. Coaches say he has made progress in understanding his role on defense during the offseason.




                          Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy
                          The next Troy pass rusher went Fairley's route, attending Butler County Community College out of high school and racking up 11˝ sacks in his only season there. After redshirting in 2009, he busted out with an All-Sun Belt season (20˝ tackles for loss, 13˝ sacks) by using a strong first step and low center of gravity to turn the corner as a pass rusher. Before the Liberia native joins cousins Visanthe Shiancoe (Minnesota Vikings tight end) and Mohamed Massaquoi (Cleveland Browns wide receiver) in the NFL, he'll need to use his hands to disengage from blockers more consistently. But like last year, when defensive tackle Mohammed Wilkerson really made his name as Temple took on Penn State early in the season, Massaquoi has two chances to impress scouts in September road games at Clemson and Arkansas. Big performances in one or both contests against ACC and SEC competition will get him on the top-50 radar.




                          Brandon McGee, CB, Miami (Fla.)
                          McGee couldn't get on the field regularly with junior All-ACC pick Brandon Harris and seniors Demarcus Van Dyke and Ryan Hill in front of him on the depth chart last season. He has only 17 career tackles and two pass breakups, which is miniscule production considering McGee played in 21 games his first two years on campus and has the size/speed combination (6-0/190/4.32) scouts expect to find when they arrive in Coral Gables each fall. With junior safeties Ray-Ray Armstrong and Vaughn Telemaque playing behind him and defensive-minded head coach Al Golden now in the fold, McGee has the license to play aggressively on the outside.




                          Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
                          Somewhat hidden inside in Texas' hybrid defensive scheme, Okafor moves outside to take over for Sam Acho. In this spot, Okafor should unleash his power and quickness off the edge to harass opposing quarterbacks. He actually started his assault early, racking up four sacks in the team's spring game. Okafor won't be the only breakout performer on the Longhorns' defense, but he'll be the one monitored closely by NFL observers. True sophomores Jackson Jeffcoat (defensive end) and Ashton Dorsey (defensive tackle) must wait until after at least the 2012 season before they can declare for the draft.

                          Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
                          Last season was supposed to be Sanu's breakout campaign, a follow-up to the great potential he showed as a rushing/receiving/Wildcat quarterback as a freshman. Hamstring and leg injuries limited him, however, in the second half of 2010 so he managed only 418 yards and two touchdowns on 44 receptions. Even with the transfer of Tom Savage, Sanu should still be a main target for Chas Dodd and the Scarlet Knights offense. A productive, healthy 2011 displaying his strong hands and tough running after the catch will put him in the conversation for a late first- or early second-round draft slot.

                          Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
                          While all of the talk in the Evergreen State surrounded Huskies quarterback Jake Locker in recent seasons, Tuel quietly had a pretty good sophomore season in 2010. He completed 59.8 percent of his passes for 2,780 yards and 18 touchdowns -- better marks than his hyped in-state rival. Tuel's mobility and touch on fades and deep passes are impressive, as is his competitive nature on the field; like Locker, he'll need to take better care of his body when scrambling. He has gotten stronger this offseason, so more consistency driving the ball downfield and eliminating the interceptions (12 in 2010) as he matures will earn him top grades from NFL scouts in the 2012 or 2013 draft.


                          David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
                          Despite Wilson being stuck in a rotation with Darren Evans and Ryan Williams, and thus getting less than nine carries a game, he flashed a burst indicative of his 4.3 speed and some toughness to bounce off tackles and even carry a defender over the first-down marker. His two kickoff returns for touchdowns also showed scouts how difficult it is to get the angle on him in the open field. Head coach Frank Beamer will split carries between Wilson and senior Josh Oglesby this year, but an increased workload and steady improvement in his cut decisiveness could boost him into the top 40 (where Williams was drafted by Arizona in April).





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                          Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy




                          I really love what ive seen from him. I will be all over his game tapes this year

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                            If they expand the rosters to 60 U guys think they will add another Round to the draft.

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                              [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

                              If they expand the rosters to 60 U guys think they will add another Round to the draft.

                              [/quote]


                              Dunno, but it would certainly be interesting if they did.

                              Expanding the roster and not expanding the draft would certainly help the veterans and the UDFA's (who, they say, are better off going undrafted anyway).


                              What I'm wondering is: what would the draft have look like if there is no 2011 season?

                              Would they keep the 2010 order, or have a draft lottery, where you they have a drawing for position (actually, I vote a drawing for each round). That would make things VERY interesting.

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                                http://www.the-dispatch.com/article/...39-s-big-prize




                                Russel Wilson ends up at Wisconsin. Should be interesting to see him behind an awesome O-line. He could be very productive there

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