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  • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="slipknottin"]The more I look through the 2011 draft the more Im stunned by the depth.

    A guy like Quan Sturdivant is a first round talent, even if he has a very good year he may not get drafted till like the 3rd round.

    A guy like Noel Devine much the same. Maybe a 3rd rounder, even if he does run a 4.25 at the combine.

    Deunta Williams the FS may also not go until the 3rd or later.

    There are at least 4 senior DEs that are going to be first rounders, maybe 5. And there are a couple juniors that could be 1st round DEs - Robert Quinn specifically. Another pretty good OT class, could be 5 or more taken in the 1st round.

    The safety class looks relatively weak, at least compared to last year. CB isnt as strong either, not as much depth though the top guys (Amakamara and Peterson if he declares) are better than the guys last year.

    The senior WR class is also pretty weak this year.[/quote] Depending on what the Jr's do, this has a great chance of being a deep safety class.. U potentially could have Rahim Moore who had 10ints last yr, Will Hill, Mark Barron, Deunta Williams, Tyler Sash all coming out, i'm sure a couple won't but still, i fully expect at least 3or4 of em 2 declare, with williams being a sr... THen u got some depth with Shiloh Keo of Idaho, and A sleeper of mine, Davonte Shannon of U of Buffalo..

    As for OT, i coulden't agree more, its a loaded class! U got this yrs Freak in Nate Solder of COL, u got Anthony Costanzo, u got Big Matt Reynolds of BYU(great future replacement for Kareem), Lee Ziemba, Demarcus Love of ARK, Derrok Sharrod of MISS ST, Nate Potter of Boise St, Marcus Cannon of TCU, Theres a heck of alot of talent there...

    Definetly gotta cop one of the Centers, outta Wisnewski, Pouncey, O'Dowd, or Colin Baxter... If we wait till mid rds, Dan Wegner of ND is a guy to look out for.....

    LB is loaded, with Chris Gallipo of USC, greg jones of MICH ST., Travis Lewis of OU(my fave LB), Mark Herzlich of BC, Kelvin Sheppard of LSU, Bruce Carter of UNC, moster Sleeper prospect in DONTAY MOCH, who rumour has it, runs a 4.30 40 as a 245 lb LB/DE!!!! Un freaking Real if thats any where near true...

    RB's pretty deep with Quizz, Noel Devine, Daniel Thomas of K'ST, Ryan WIlliams or Va Tech, Mark Ingram, and SLEEPERS such as Brandon Saine, and Roy Helu..... Plus Demarco Murray and Evan Royster, almost forgot about them...

    TE's kinda weak this yr, with Ky rudolph and Weslye Suanders leading the way....

    Guard seems kinda weak as well....

    CB is pretty deep as well, could end up with a guy like chimidi chekwa in possibly 3rd rd.. And its deep for sleepers with guys like Johnny Patrick and Darrin Walls in the class...

    DE is loaded

    Its pretty loaded class right through to be honest, almost as loaded as last yrs class, of course, the JR"s will play a part in how deep the class really is, but on potential, MY LORD! It should be fun...
    [/quote] Man, this is from AUGUST of 2010...lol Not bad, being it was before the last season even began... Its mad fun going through this thread.. I feel good about alot of what i said prior to the draft, all though if u read, there are as usual some things that didn't work out...lol

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    • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

      Rob Rang biting my style.. I had chose IAN WILLIAMS as my top UDF out there, in what looks like one heck of a UDF class, and he just came out with a list and WILLIAMS lead the way, also Martin Parker is on it, another guy i put on the UDF threads that were up after the draft... When we lose Cofield, i would really like to somehow snag either Martin Parker or Ian Williams.. Parker for rushing the passer, and he has great strength, and Ian for his Run Stuffing abiltiy.. Also, we got to get one of those safties! I mean, Deunta, Lefeged, Silva, tarrant, there are some freaking good safties on those lists.. I really like Darrin Walls as a EXP'd CB out there with solid size and good run stopping ability... Woulden't mind seeing Redeyes guy Shuylar Oordt come in as a UDF for the TE positon... Pat Devlin is 100pct the QB i would crave for outta the UDF's with Josh Portis showing some legit upside, and yet another DT that excites me a bit is Ced Thornton.... Armon Binns, Maehl and Sazenbacher are all guys i spoke of as late rd picks or UDF's i think could make some noise as well..




















































      Plenty of talent left among undrafted class


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      By Chad Reuter

      The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

      July 20, 2011Tell Chad your opinion!







      Hundreds of undrafted free agents whose phones didn't ring in the
      hours after the end of the seventh round of the 2011 NFL Draft was
      completed are about to become much more popular than they were
      during the four-month lockout.



      In a historic
      situation that prevented NFL contract-related business from being
      conducted, undrafted free agents can't be signed until the labor
      mess is sorted out and player transactions are cleared to be
      processed by the league office.

















      Pat Devlin figures to be a serviceable backup in the NFL.

      (US Presswire)

      They'll be in queue with many others -- 254
      total draft picks, hundreds of veteran unrestricted and restricted
      free agents -- fighting for attention from the 32 pro teams in
      this first-of-its-kind, two-week free agency window.


      Typically, teams are on the phone with their top undrafted free-agent
      targets throughout the final day of the event, trying to convince
      them to sign on and many negotiate bigger signing bonuses than
      late-round draft picks as agents review each team's draft picks
      and seek the best fits for their clients.



      A
      fair number of talented players from the college ranks remained
      available after Mr. Irrelevant, Houston Texans linebacker Cheta Ozougwu
      (from Rice University), was selected with the 254th pick.




      Below is a refresher course on the top five players available
      overall, and the top five at each position when the curtain is
      finally raised on what is certain to be an entertaining 2011 free
      agency period.



      1. DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame
      Williams fought through a knee injury in 2010, but his toughness
      and hustle from the interior could allow him to contribute for a
      long time as a solid, if not overly flashy, 4-3 nose
      tackle/one-technique.



      2. WR Terrance Toliver, LSU
      Toliver's tape isn't superior, but his size/speed combination
      still typically earns an SEC receiver some sort of draft slot. He
      also looked good at the end of the season and at the East-West
      Shrine Game. He should latch on with a team interested in a
      vertical route-runner with enough size to create mismatches against
      smaller cornerbacks.



      3. QB Pat Devlin, Delaware
      The Penn State transfer did not impress scouts with his arm
      strength at the East-West Shrine Game or his pro day, but his
      performance was not so poor that most didn't expect him to be
      drafted late. Though he ran primarily out of shotgun for the Blue
      Hens, he came out from under center at Penn State and has the size,
      athleticism and intelligence to stick on a roster as a backup or
      potential spot starter.



      4. CB Ryan Jones, Northwest Missouri State
      It was surprising that a solid cornerback who produced for a
      powerhouse Division II program and who blew up his pro day
      (40-inch vertical, 4.46 40 at 5-11, 198 pounds, 19 reps of 225
      pounds) went undrafted. He is raw in his coverage and tackling
      techniques to be sure, but it won't be surprising to see him stick
      as a nickel back with potential as a starter down the line.



      5. DT Martin Parker, Richmond
      Another small-school prospect, Parker showed up big-time at the
      East-West Shrine Game, but teams didn't appreciate his film enough
      to select him even late in the draft. Given time and coaching,
      Parker could be an interesting three-technique prospect who
      provides pass rush as a high-effort wave player.



      Top Undrafted Players by Position



      Quarterbacks



      1. Adam Froman (Louisville)



      2. Taylor Potts (Texas Tech)



      3. Adam Weber (Minnesota)



      4. Josh Portis (California (PA))



      5. Scott Tolzien (Wisconsin)



      Running backs

















      Derrick Locke is a solid option for teams searching for running back depth.

      (US Presswire)

      1. Derrick Locke (Kentucky)

      2. Noel Devine (West Virginia)



      3. Mario Fannin (Auburn)



      4. Damien Berry (Miami)



      5. Brandon Saine (Ohio State)



      Wide receivers



      1. Dane Sanzenbacher (Ohio State)



      2. Darvin Adams (Auburn)



      3. Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)



      4. Jeff Maehl (Oregon)



      5. Armon Binns (Cincinnati)



      Tight ends



      1. Andre Smith (Virginia Tech)



      2. Schuylar Oordt (Northern Iowa)



      3. Collin Franklin (Iowa State)



      4. Weslye Saunders (South Carolina)



      5. Zack Pianalto (North Carolina)



      Offensive tackles



      1. Derek Hall (Stanford)



      2. Willie Smith (East Carolina)



      3. David Mims (Virginia Union)



      4. D.J. Young (Michigan State)



      5. Trevis Turner (Abilene Christian)



      Offensive guards



      1. Zach Hurd (Connecticut)



      2. Ray Dominguez (Arkansas)



      3. Carl Johnson (Florida)



      4. Justin Boren (Ohio State)



      5. Andrew Phillips (Stanford)



      Centers



      1. Kris O'Dowd (Southern Cal)



      2. Zane Taylor (Utah)



      3. Tim Barnes (Missouri)



      4. Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)



      5. Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State)



      Defensive ends



      1. Ugo Chinasa (Oklahoma State)



      2. Brandon Bair (Oregon)



      3. Pierre Allen (Nebraska)



      4. Eddie Jones (Texas)



      5. Marc Schiechl (Colorado School of Mines)



      Defensive tackles



      1. Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)



      2. Ollie Ogbu (Penn State)



      3. Sealver Siliga (Utah)



      4. Anthony Gray (Southern Miss)



      5. Corbin Bryant (Northwestern)



      Inside linebackers

















      The inspirational Mark Herzlich is one of the best linebackers in the undrafted pool.

      (US Presswire)

      1. Jeff Tarpinian (Iowa)

      2. Mario Harvey (Marshall)



      3. Josh Bynes (Auburn)



      4. Nick Bellore (Central Michigan)



      5. Orie Lemon (Oklahoma State)



      Outside linebackers



      1. Adrian Moten (Maryland)



      2. Mark Herzlich (Boston College)



      3. Jeremiha Hunter (Iowa)



      4. Scott Lutrus (Connecticut)



      5. Thomas Keiser (Stanford)



      Cornerbacks



      1. Kendric Burney (North Carolina)



      2. Loyce Means (Houston)



      3. Talmadge Jackson III (Oregon)



      4. Kevin Rutland (Missouri)



      5. Darrin Walls (Notre Dame)



      Free safeties



      1. Deunta Williams (North Carolina)



      2. Jerrard Tarrant (Georgia Tech)



      3. Anthony Walters (Delaware)



      4. Will Hill (Florida)



      5. Brian Lainhart (Kent State)



      Strong safeties



      1. DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson)



      2. Joe Lefeged (Rutgers)



      3. Jeron Johnson (Boise State)



      4. Mana Silva (Hawaii)



      5. David Sims (Iowa State)



      Specialists



      1. Kai Forbath (UCLA)



      2. Josh Jasper (LSU)



      3. Dan Bailey (Oklahoma State)

      4. Chas Henry (Florida)

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      • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

        [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Rob Rang biting my style.. I had chose IAN WILLIAMS as my top UDF out there, in what looks like one heck of a UDF class, and he just came out with a list and WILLIAMS lead the way, also Martin Parker is on it, another guy i put on the UDF threads that were up after the draft... When we lose Cofield, i would really like to somehow snag either Martin Parker or Ian Williams.. Parker for rushing the passer, and he has great strength, and Ian for his Run Stuffing abiltiy.. Also, we got to get one of those safties! I mean, Deunta, Lefeged, Silva, tarrant, there are some freaking good safties on those lists.. I really like Darrin Walls as a EXP'd CB out there with solid size and good run stopping ability... Woulden't mind seeing Redeyes guy Shuylar Oordt come in as a UDF for the TE positon... Pat Devlin is 100pct the QB i would crave for outta the UDF's with Josh Portis showing some legit upside, and yet another DT that excites me a bit is Ced Thornton.... Armon Binns, Maehl and Sazenbacher are all guys i spoke of as late rd picks or UDF's i think could make some noise as well..








































        Plenty of talent left among undrafted class


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        By Chad Reuter
        The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com
        July 20, 2011Tell Chad your opinion!



        Hundreds of undrafted free agents whose phones didn't ring in the hours after the end of the seventh round of the 2011 NFL Draft was completed are about to become much more popular than they were during the four-month lockout.




        In a historic situation that prevented NFL contract-related business from being conducted, undrafted free agents can't be signed until the labor mess is sorted out and player transactions are cleared to be processed by the league office.












        Pat Devlin figures to be a serviceable backup in the NFL. (US Presswire)
        They'll be in queue with many others -- 254 total draft picks, hundreds of veteran unrestricted and restricted free agents -- fighting for attention from the 32 pro teams in this first-of-its-kind, two-week free agency window.


        Typically, teams are on the phone with their top undrafted free-agent targets throughout the final day of the event, trying to convince them to sign on and many negotiate bigger signing bonuses than late-round draft picks as agents review each team's draft picks and seek the best fits for their clients.




        A fair number of talented players from the college ranks remained available after Mr. Irrelevant, Houston Texans linebacker Cheta Ozougwu (from Rice University), was selected with the 254th pick.




        Below is a refresher course on the top five players available overall, and the top five at each position when the curtain is finally raised on what is certain to be an entertaining 2011 free agency period.




        1. DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame Williams fought through a knee injury in 2010, but his toughness and hustle from the interior could allow him to contribute for a long time as a solid, if not overly flashy, 4-3 nose tackle/one-technique.




        2. WR Terrance Toliver, LSU Toliver's tape isn't superior, but his size/speed combination still typically earns an SEC receiver some sort of draft slot. He also looked good at the end of the season and at the East-West Shrine Game. He should latch on with a team interested in a vertical route-runner with enough size to create mismatches against smaller cornerbacks.




        3. QB Pat Devlin, Delaware The Penn State transfer did not impress scouts with his arm strength at the East-West Shrine Game or his pro day, but his performance was not so poor that most didn't expect him to be drafted late. Though he ran primarily out of shotgun for the Blue Hens, he came out from under center at Penn State and has the size, athleticism and intelligence to stick on a roster as a backup or potential spot starter.




        4. CB Ryan Jones, Northwest Missouri State It was surprising that a solid cornerback who produced for a powerhouse Division II program and who blew up his pro day (40-inch vertical, 4.46 40 at 5-11, 198 pounds, 19 reps of 225 pounds) went undrafted. He is raw in his coverage and tackling techniques to be sure, but it won't be surprising to see him stick as a nickel back with potential as a starter down the line.




        5. DT Martin Parker, Richmond Another small-school prospect, Parker showed up big-time at the East-West Shrine Game, but teams didn't appreciate his film enough to select him even late in the draft. Given time and coaching, Parker could be an interesting three-technique prospect who provides pass rush as a high-effort wave player.




        Top Undrafted Players by Position




        Quarterbacks




        1. Adam Froman (Louisville)




        2. Taylor Potts (Texas Tech)




        3. Adam Weber (Minnesota)




        4. Josh Portis (California (PA))




        5. Scott Tolzien (Wisconsin)




        Running backs












        Derrick Locke is a solid option for teams searching for running back depth. (US Presswire)
        1. Derrick Locke (Kentucky)


        2. Noel Devine (West Virginia)




        3. Mario Fannin (Auburn)




        4. Damien Berry (Miami)




        5. Brandon Saine (Ohio State)




        Wide receivers




        1. Dane Sanzenbacher (Ohio State)




        2. Darvin Adams (Auburn)




        3. Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)




        4. Jeff Maehl (Oregon)




        5. Armon Binns (Cincinnati)




        Tight ends




        1. Andre Smith (Virginia Tech)




        2. Schuylar Oordt (Northern Iowa)




        3. Collin Franklin (Iowa State)




        4. Weslye Saunders (South Carolina)




        5. Zack Pianalto (North Carolina)




        Offensive tackles




        1. Derek Hall (Stanford)




        2. Willie Smith (East Carolina)




        3. David Mims (Virginia Union)




        4. D.J. Young (Michigan State)




        5. Trevis Turner (Abilene Christian)




        Offensive guards




        1. Zach Hurd (Connecticut)




        2. Ray Dominguez (Arkansas)




        3. Carl Johnson (Florida)




        4. Justin Boren (Ohio State)




        5. Andrew Phillips (Stanford)




        Centers




        1. Kris O'Dowd (Southern Cal)




        2. Zane Taylor (Utah)




        3. Tim Barnes (Missouri)




        4. Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)




        5. Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State)




        Defensive ends




        1. Ugo Chinasa (Oklahoma State)




        2. Brandon Bair (Oregon)




        3. Pierre Allen (Nebraska)




        4. Eddie Jones (Texas)




        5. Marc Schiechl (Colorado School of Mines)




        Defensive tackles




        1. Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)




        2. Ollie Ogbu (Penn State)




        3. Sealver Siliga (Utah)




        4. Anthony Gray (Southern Miss)




        5. Corbin Bryant (Northwestern)




        Inside linebackers












        The inspirational Mark Herzlich is one of the best linebackers in the undrafted pool. (US Presswire)
        1. Jeff Tarpinian (Iowa)


        2. Mario Harvey (Marshall)




        3. Josh Bynes (Auburn)




        4. Nick Bellore (Central Michigan)




        5. Orie Lemon (Oklahoma State)




        Outside linebackers




        1. Adrian Moten (Maryland)




        2. Mark Herzlich (Boston College)




        3. Jeremiha Hunter (Iowa)




        4. Scott Lutrus (Connecticut)




        5. Thomas Keiser (Stanford)




        Cornerbacks




        1. Kendric Burney (North Carolina)




        2. Loyce Means (Houston)




        3. Talmadge Jackson III (Oregon)




        4. Kevin Rutland (Missouri)




        5. Darrin Walls (Notre Dame)




        Free safeties




        1. Deunta Williams (North Carolina)




        2. Jerrard Tarrant (Georgia Tech)




        3. Anthony Walters (Delaware)




        4. Will Hill (Florida)




        5. Brian Lainhart (Kent State)




        Strong safeties




        1. DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson)




        2. Joe Lefeged (Rutgers)




        3. Jeron Johnson (Boise State)




        4. Mana Silva (Hawaii)




        5. David Sims (Iowa State)




        Specialists




        1. Kai Forbath (UCLA)




        2. Josh Jasper (LSU)




        3. Dan Bailey (Oklahoma State)

        4. Chas Henry (Florida)
        [/quote]There are a few good safeties and Centers bothare a good idea to be brought in.Iwould like to see S Deunta Williams brought in. he would of been drafted if he didnt get hurt in the bowl game. He has man coverage skills and has a wider skill set then are 6th round safety Tyler Sash. Oordt has NFL measurables is worth a spot on the practice squad

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        • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

          [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

          Miami 2011 Sophomore Storm Johnson "perfect name for the Hurricanes" is transferring to Central Florida amidst the regime change in Miami. Rumor is the Number 6 RB recruit in*2010**didnt want to compete for carries and wanted the job handed to him and Central Florida will have no problem doing that. He only had 9 carries as a freshman but I have to say certainly looked like a big time RB busting that 70 yard run against South Florida. Look for him to get major carries at Central Florida next year.

          [/quote]

          How did i miss this? Ucf is on the rise.

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          • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

            [quote user="lawl"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


            Miami 2011 Sophomore Storm Johnson "perfect name for the Hurricanes" is transferring to Central Florida amidst the regime change in Miami. Rumor is the Number 6 RB recruit in2010didnt want to compete for carries and wanted the job handed to him and Central Florida will have no problem doing that. He only had 9 carries as a freshman but I have to say certainly looked like a big time RB busting that 70 yard run against South Florida. Look for him to get major carries at Central Florida next year.

            [/quote] How did i miss this? Ucf is on the rise.[/quote]Yeah im actually putting together sometape on some rush LB prospects they have

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            • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

              [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Rob Rang biting my style.. I had chose IAN WILLIAMS as my top UDF out there, in what looks like one heck of a UDF class, and he just came out with a list and WILLIAMS lead the way, also Martin Parker is on it, another guy i put on the UDF threads that were up after the draft... When we lose Cofield, i would really like to somehow snag either Martin Parker or Ian Williams.. Parker for rushing the passer, and he has great strength, and Ian for his Run Stuffing abiltiy.. Also, we got to get one of those safties! I mean, Deunta, Lefeged, Silva, tarrant, there are some freaking good safties on those lists.. I really like Darrin Walls as a EXP'd CB out there with solid size and good run stopping ability... Woulden't mind seeing Redeyes guy Shuylar Oordt come in as a UDF for the TE positon... Pat Devlin is 100pct the QB i would crave for outta the UDF's with Josh Portis showing some legit upside, and yet another DT that excites me a bit is Ced Thornton.... Armon Binns, Maehl and Sazenbacher are all guys i spoke of as late rd picks or UDF's i think could make some noise as well..








































              Plenty of talent left among undrafted class


              http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/cbss...x60/12010.jpg") no-repeat scroll left top white; height: 60px;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">



              By Chad Reuter
              The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com
              July 20, 2011Tell Chad your opinion!



              Hundreds of undrafted free agents whose phones didn't ring in the hours after the end of the seventh round of the 2011 NFL Draft was completed are about to become much more popular than they were during the four-month lockout.




              In a historic situation that prevented NFL contract-related business from being conducted, undrafted free agents can't be signed until the labor mess is sorted out and player transactions are cleared to be processed by the league office.












              Pat Devlin figures to be a serviceable backup in the NFL. (US Presswire)
              They'll be in queue with many others -- 254 total draft picks, hundreds of veteran unrestricted and restricted free agents -- fighting for attention from the 32 pro teams in this first-of-its-kind, two-week free agency window.


              Typically, teams are on the phone with their top undrafted free-agent targets throughout the final day of the event, trying to convince them to sign on and many negotiate bigger signing bonuses than late-round draft picks as agents review each team's draft picks and seek the best fits for their clients.




              A fair number of talented players from the college ranks remained available after Mr. Irrelevant, Houston Texans linebacker Cheta Ozougwu (from Rice University), was selected with the 254th pick.




              Below is a refresher course on the top five players available overall, and the top five at each position when the curtain is finally raised on what is certain to be an entertaining 2011 free agency period.




              1. DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame Williams fought through a knee injury in 2010, but his toughness and hustle from the interior could allow him to contribute for a long time as a solid, if not overly flashy, 4-3 nose tackle/one-technique.




              2. WR Terrance Toliver, LSU Toliver's tape isn't superior, but his size/speed combination still typically earns an SEC receiver some sort of draft slot. He also looked good at the end of the season and at the East-West Shrine Game. He should latch on with a team interested in a vertical route-runner with enough size to create mismatches against smaller cornerbacks.




              3. QB Pat Devlin, Delaware The Penn State transfer did not impress scouts with his arm strength at the East-West Shrine Game or his pro day, but his performance was not so poor that most didn't expect him to be drafted late. Though he ran primarily out of shotgun for the Blue Hens, he came out from under center at Penn State and has the size, athleticism and intelligence to stick on a roster as a backup or potential spot starter.




              4. CB Ryan Jones, Northwest Missouri State It was surprising that a solid cornerback who produced for a powerhouse Division II program and who blew up his pro day (40-inch vertical, 4.46 40 at 5-11, 198 pounds, 19 reps of 225 pounds) went undrafted. He is raw in his coverage and tackling techniques to be sure, but it won't be surprising to see him stick as a nickel back with potential as a starter down the line.




              5. DT Martin Parker, Richmond Another small-school prospect, Parker showed up big-time at the East-West Shrine Game, but teams didn't appreciate his film enough to select him even late in the draft. Given time and coaching, Parker could be an interesting three-technique prospect who provides pass rush as a high-effort wave player.




              Top Undrafted Players by Position




              Quarterbacks




              1. Adam Froman (Louisville)




              2. Taylor Potts (Texas Tech)




              3. Adam Weber (Minnesota)




              4. Josh Portis (California (PA))




              5. Scott Tolzien (Wisconsin)




              Running backs












              Derrick Locke is a solid option for teams searching for running back depth. (US Presswire)
              1. Derrick Locke (Kentucky)


              2. Noel Devine (West Virginia)




              3. Mario Fannin (Auburn)




              4. Damien Berry (Miami)




              5. Brandon Saine (Ohio State)




              Wide receivers




              1. Dane Sanzenbacher (Ohio State)




              2. Darvin Adams (Auburn)




              3. Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)




              4. Jeff Maehl (Oregon)




              5. Armon Binns (Cincinnati)




              Tight ends




              1. Andre Smith (Virginia Tech)




              2. Schuylar Oordt (Northern Iowa)




              3. Collin Franklin (Iowa State)




              4. Weslye Saunders (South Carolina)




              5. Zack Pianalto (North Carolina)




              Offensive tackles




              1. Derek Hall (Stanford)




              2. Willie Smith (East Carolina)




              3. David Mims (Virginia Union)




              4. D.J. Young (Michigan State)




              5. Trevis Turner (Abilene Christian)




              Offensive guards




              1. Zach Hurd (Connecticut)




              2. Ray Dominguez (Arkansas)




              3. Carl Johnson (Florida)




              4. Justin Boren (Ohio State)




              5. Andrew Phillips (Stanford)




              Centers




              1. Kris O'Dowd (Southern Cal)




              2. Zane Taylor (Utah)




              3. Tim Barnes (Missouri)




              4. Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)




              5. Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State)




              Defensive ends




              1. Ugo Chinasa (Oklahoma State)




              2. Brandon Bair (Oregon)




              3. Pierre Allen (Nebraska)




              4. Eddie Jones (Texas)




              5. Marc Schiechl (Colorado School of Mines)




              Defensive tackles




              1. Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)




              2. Ollie Ogbu (Penn State)




              3. Sealver Siliga (Utah)




              4. Anthony Gray (Southern Miss)




              5. Corbin Bryant (Northwestern)




              Inside linebackers












              The inspirational Mark Herzlich is one of the best linebackers in the undrafted pool. (US Presswire)
              1. Jeff Tarpinian (Iowa)


              2. Mario Harvey (Marshall)




              3. Josh Bynes (Auburn)




              4. Nick Bellore (Central Michigan)




              5. Orie Lemon (Oklahoma State)




              Outside linebackers




              1. Adrian Moten (Maryland)




              2. Mark Herzlich (Boston College)




              3. Jeremiha Hunter (Iowa)




              4. Scott Lutrus (Connecticut)




              5. Thomas Keiser (Stanford)




              Cornerbacks




              1. Kendric Burney (North Carolina)




              2. Loyce Means (Houston)




              3. Talmadge Jackson III (Oregon)




              4. Kevin Rutland (Missouri)




              5. Darrin Walls (Notre Dame)




              Free safeties




              1. Deunta Williams (North Carolina)




              2. Jerrard Tarrant (Georgia Tech)




              3. Anthony Walters (Delaware)




              4. Will Hill (Florida)




              5. Brian Lainhart (Kent State)




              Strong safeties




              1. DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson)




              2. Joe Lefeged (Rutgers)




              3. Jeron Johnson (Boise State)




              4. Mana Silva (Hawaii)




              5. David Sims (Iowa State)




              Specialists




              1. Kai Forbath (UCLA)




              2. Josh Jasper (LSU)




              3. Dan Bailey (Oklahoma State)

              4. Chas Henry (Florida)
              [/quote]There are a few good safeties and Centers bothare a good idea to be brought in.Iwould like to see S Deunta Williams brought in. he would of been drafted if he didnt get hurt in the bowl game. He has man coverage skills and has a wider skill set then are 6th round safety Tyler Sash. Oordt has NFL measurables is worth a spot on the practice squad[/quote] Yes, if we could come away with these 5guys, i'd be estatic..

              1of O'dowd Kirkpatrick or Barnes HON MENTION= Zane Taylor

              2. Ian Williams, Martin Parker HON MENTION-= Cedric Thorton

              3. Lefeged, Silva, or Williams HON MENTION- Tarrant

              4. Darrin Walls

              5. Brandon Saine

              1of Ian Williams or

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              • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft



                DraftCountdown did a write up of the 2011 draft for the Giants. I tried to copy and paste some pieces but it wouldnt let me




                http://draftcountdown.com/Reviews/te...ork-Giants.php




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                • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                  [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

                  DraftCountdown did a write up of the 2011 draft for the Giants. I tried to copy and paste some pieces but it wouldnt let me




                  http://draftcountdown.com/Reviews/te...ork-Giants.php




                  [/quote] Pretty much what we all ready knew.. The giants draft was fantastic, and they got players even in RD 6 and 7 that could very well be big contributors in the future...

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                  • Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

                    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


                    Miami 2011 Sophomore Storm Johnson "perfect name for the Hurricanes" is transferring to Central Florida amidst the regime change in Miami. Rumor is the Number 6 RB recruit in*2010**didnt want to compete for carries and wanted the job handed to him and Central Florida will have no problem doing that. He only had 9 carries as a freshman but I have to say certainly looked like a big time RB busting that 70 yard run against South Florida. Look for him to get major carries at Central Florida next year.

                    [/quote] How did i miss this? Ucf is on the rise.[/quote]Yeah im actually putting together some*tape on *some rush LB prospects they have[/quote]

                    We usually always have good DBs, too.

                    We got a 4star QB this year when we already have Godfrey. Godfrey is short, but i believe has NFL speed, who knows how he'll fit into the NFL, though.

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                    • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                      According to Giants 101, were signing Hynoski and Jarriel King as UDF's.. Very good pickups, and believe it or not, both woulden't of suprised me if they were drafted in last yrs draft..

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                      • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                        [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Rob Rang biting my style.. I had chose IAN WILLIAMS as my top UDF out there, in what looks like one heck of a UDF class, and he just came out with a list and WILLIAMS lead the way, also Martin Parker is on it, another guy i put on the UDF threads that were up after the draft... When we lose Cofield, i would really like to somehow snag either Martin Parker or Ian Williams.. Parker for rushing the passer, and he has great strength, and Ian for his Run Stuffing abiltiy.. Also, we got to get one of those safties! I mean, Deunta, Lefeged, Silva, tarrant, there are some freaking good safties on those lists.. I really like Darrin Walls as a EXP'd CB out there with solid size and good run stopping ability... Woulden't mind seeing Redeyes guy Shuylar Oordt come in as a UDF for the TE positon... Pat Devlin is 100pct the QB i would crave for outta the UDF's with Josh Portis showing some legit upside, and yet another DT that excites me a bit is Ced Thornton.... Armon Binns, Maehl and Sazenbacher are all guys i spoke of as late rd picks or UDF's i think could make some noise as well..




















































                        Plenty of talent left among undrafted class


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                        By Chad Reuter

                        The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

                        July 20, 2011Tell Chad your opinion!







                        Hundreds of undrafted free agents whose phones didn't ring in the
                        hours after the end of the seventh round of the 2011 NFL Draft was
                        completed are about to become much more popular than they were
                        during the four-month lockout.



                        In a historic
                        situation that prevented NFL contract-related business from being
                        conducted, undrafted free agents can't be signed until the labor
                        mess is sorted out and player transactions are cleared to be
                        processed by the league office.

















                        Pat Devlin figures to be a serviceable backup in the NFL.

                        (US Presswire)

                        They'll be in queue with many others -- 254
                        total draft picks, hundreds of veteran unrestricted and restricted
                        free agents -- fighting for attention from the 32 pro teams in
                        this first-of-its-kind, two-week free agency window.


                        Typically, teams are on the phone with their top undrafted free-agent
                        targets throughout the final day of the event, trying to convince
                        them to sign on and many negotiate bigger signing bonuses than
                        late-round draft picks as agents review each team's draft picks
                        and seek the best fits for their clients.



                        A
                        fair number of talented players from the college ranks remained
                        available after Mr. Irrelevant, Houston Texans linebacker Cheta Ozougwu
                        (from Rice University), was selected with the 254th pick.




                        Below is a refresher course on the top five players available
                        overall, and the top five at each position when the curtain is
                        finally raised on what is certain to be an entertaining 2011 free
                        agency period.



                        1. DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame
                        Williams fought through a knee injury in 2010, but his toughness
                        and hustle from the interior could allow him to contribute for a
                        long time as a solid, if not overly flashy, 4-3 nose
                        tackle/one-technique.



                        2. WR Terrance Toliver, LSU
                        Toliver's tape isn't superior, but his size/speed combination
                        still typically earns an SEC receiver some sort of draft slot. He
                        also looked good at the end of the season and at the East-West
                        Shrine Game. He should latch on with a team interested in a
                        vertical route-runner with enough size to create mismatches against
                        smaller cornerbacks.



                        3. QB Pat Devlin, Delaware
                        The Penn State transfer did not impress scouts with his arm
                        strength at the East-West Shrine Game or his pro day, but his
                        performance was not so poor that most didn't expect him to be
                        drafted late. Though he ran primarily out of shotgun for the Blue
                        Hens, he came out from under center at Penn State and has the size,
                        athleticism and intelligence to stick on a roster as a backup or
                        potential spot starter.



                        4. CB Ryan Jones, Northwest Missouri State
                        It was surprising that a solid cornerback who produced for a
                        powerhouse Division II program and who blew up his pro day
                        (40-inch vertical, 4.46 40 at 5-11, 198 pounds, 19 reps of 225
                        pounds) went undrafted. He is raw in his coverage and tackling
                        techniques to be sure, but it won't be surprising to see him stick
                        as a nickel back with potential as a starter down the line.



                        5. DT Martin Parker, Richmond
                        Another small-school prospect, Parker showed up big-time at the
                        East-West Shrine Game, but teams didn't appreciate his film enough
                        to select him even late in the draft. Given time and coaching,
                        Parker could be an interesting three-technique prospect who
                        provides pass rush as a high-effort wave player.



                        Top Undrafted Players by Position



                        Quarterbacks



                        1. Adam Froman (Louisville)



                        2. Taylor Potts (Texas Tech)



                        3. Adam Weber (Minnesota)



                        4. Josh Portis (California (PA))



                        5. Scott Tolzien (Wisconsin)



                        Running backs

















                        Derrick Locke is a solid option for teams searching for running back depth.

                        (US Presswire)

                        1. Derrick Locke (Kentucky)

                        2. Noel Devine (West Virginia)



                        3. Mario Fannin (Auburn)



                        4. Damien Berry (Miami)



                        5. Brandon Saine (Ohio State)



                        Wide receivers



                        1. Dane Sanzenbacher (Ohio State)



                        2. Darvin Adams (Auburn)



                        3. Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)



                        4. Jeff Maehl (Oregon)



                        5. Armon Binns (Cincinnati)



                        Tight ends



                        1. Andre Smith (Virginia Tech)



                        2. Schuylar Oordt (Northern Iowa)



                        3. Collin Franklin (Iowa State)



                        4. Weslye Saunders (South Carolina)



                        5. Zack Pianalto (North Carolina)



                        Offensive tackles



                        1. Derek Hall (Stanford)



                        2. Willie Smith (East Carolina)



                        3. David Mims (Virginia Union)



                        4. D.J. Young (Michigan State)



                        5. Trevis Turner (Abilene Christian)



                        Offensive guards



                        1. Zach Hurd (Connecticut)



                        2. Ray Dominguez (Arkansas)



                        3. Carl Johnson (Florida)



                        4. Justin Boren (Ohio State)



                        5. Andrew Phillips (Stanford)



                        Centers



                        1. Kris O'Dowd (Southern Cal)



                        2. Zane Taylor (Utah)



                        3. Tim Barnes (Missouri)



                        4. Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)



                        5. Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State)



                        Defensive ends



                        1. Ugo Chinasa (Oklahoma State)



                        2. Brandon Bair (Oregon)



                        3. Pierre Allen (Nebraska)



                        4. Eddie Jones (Texas)



                        5. Marc Schiechl (Colorado School of Mines)



                        Defensive tackles



                        1. Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)



                        2. Ollie Ogbu (Penn State)



                        3. Sealver Siliga (Utah)



                        4. Anthony Gray (Southern Miss)



                        5. Corbin Bryant (Northwestern)



                        Inside linebackers

















                        The inspirational Mark Herzlich is one of the best linebackers in the undrafted pool.

                        (US Presswire)

                        1. Jeff Tarpinian (Iowa)

                        2. Mario Harvey (Marshall)



                        3. Josh Bynes (Auburn)



                        4. Nick Bellore (Central Michigan)



                        5. Orie Lemon (Oklahoma State)



                        Outside linebackers



                        1. Adrian Moten (Maryland)



                        2. Mark Herzlich (Boston College)



                        3. Jeremiha Hunter (Iowa)



                        4. Scott Lutrus (Connecticut)



                        5. Thomas Keiser (Stanford)



                        Cornerbacks



                        1. Kendric Burney (North Carolina)



                        2. Loyce Means (Houston)



                        3. Talmadge Jackson III (Oregon)



                        4. Kevin Rutland (Missouri)



                        5. Darrin Walls (Notre Dame)



                        Free safeties



                        1. Deunta Williams (North Carolina)



                        2. Jerrard Tarrant (Georgia Tech)



                        3. Anthony Walters (Delaware)



                        4. Will Hill (Florida)



                        5. Brian Lainhart (Kent State)



                        Strong safeties



                        1. DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson)



                        2. Joe Lefeged (Rutgers)



                        3. Jeron Johnson (Boise State)



                        4. Mana Silva (Hawaii)



                        5. David Sims (Iowa State)



                        Specialists



                        1. Kai Forbath (UCLA)



                        2. Josh Jasper (LSU)



                        3. Dan Bailey (Oklahoma State)

                        4. Chas Henry (Florida)
                        [/quote] We got Martin Parker! Yes!!!

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                        • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                          [quote user="nycsportzfan"] We got Martin Parker! Yes!!!
                          [/quote]

                          This UDFA class was better than some team's regular draft classes.

                          Parker's already making waves at camp... he could nail down the #4 spot with some technique work. King too.


                          I was also REALLY impressed with what tape of Marshall I was able to find. Great motor, good size, and more athleticism than you'd expect.

                          I wish we could get better camp reports

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                          • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                            [quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] We got Martin Parker! Yes!!!
                            [/quote]

                            This UDFA class was better than some team's regular draft classes.

                            Parker's already making waves at camp... he could nail down the #4 spot with some technique work. King too.


                            I was also REALLY impressed with what tape of Marshall I was able to find. Great motor, good size, and more athleticism than you'd expect.

                            I wish we could get better camp reports
                            [/quote] Ya, parker was one of my fave UDF pickups, still can't beleve he wasen't drafted...

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                            • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                              Im doing a Mock Draft for aDraftbreakdown feature anybody got any opinions on who i should give the Giants

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                              • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                                [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Im doing a Mock Draft for aDraftbreakdown feature anybody got any opinions on who i should give the Giants[/quote]No help where are the Draftniks

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