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  • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="ELIistheFRANCHISE"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    I will put this in the film room thread as wel but just in case U didnt see this




    Doug Martin vs Arizona State 2011 "Las Vegas Bowl"




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    Redeye, whats your thoughts/film on any DE's coming in the draft this year that could fall to the 2nd or 3rd rd. Obviously you cant see the future, but some guys that could be great value in the 2nd/3rd?

    [/quote]Im not really feeling any of these pass rushers to be honest with U.[/quote]Whitney Mercilus looks fantastic! I actually hope we can somehow get him to go with JPP for our future DE tandem. I think Mercilus is the closest thing to JPP since JPP.. I think he rises to far up the draft for us though.. I'm thinking Janoris Jenkins at this point because i expect mercilus, kuechly, richardson and decastro to all be gone by the time we select.. I'm now hoping for Janoris Jenkins, Chase Minnifield, Pete Konz(if he comes out), Dwayne Allen, or Jerel Worthy..[/quote]I havent disagreed with U much this season but I do disagree with U about Mercilus.I dont think he is a bad prospect but I dont see anywhere near the elite level athletic ability JPP possess's .JPP had an insane burst off the line of scrimmage,Mercilus doesnt have that.What is similar about Mercilus and JPP is the motor.Both players play hard dont take plays off and are relentless.I do like that quality about Mercilus. Mercilus isnt so much about elite athleticism but hard work.Mercilus is also pretty well refined as a player.He uses his hands and arms real well. He reminds me more of a Derrick Morgan or Robert Ayers prospect then JPP or Aldon Smith.[/quote]Got to agree w/ Redeye on Whitney Mercilus. Not a bad prospect, but nowhere near the level of JPP. I actually think Nick Perry of USC is a much better defensive end.

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      oh wow my man armando allen former ND RB is playing for the bears lol I used to love him with the irish! I thought he'd pan out as a late drafted(i think he went undrafted?) RB who ended up being a good 3rd down back/part time RB for someone lol He hasent done anything but cool to see em anyhow lol

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      • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

        [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="ELIistheFRANCHISE"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


        I will put this in the film room thread as wel but just in case U didnt see this




        Doug Martin vs Arizona State 2011 "Las Vegas Bowl"




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        Redeye, whats your thoughts/film on any DE's coming in the draft this year that could fall to the 2nd or 3rd rd. Obviously you cant see the future, but some guys that could be great value in the 2nd/3rd?

        [/quote]andre branch from clemson. kids a beast but i think his stock will soar coming up into the draft so not really sure where he'll be.
        [/quote] Andre Branch is another one i really like alot Also i'll add Julian miller to the mix Julian can get after the passer and also line up inside at DT like tuck has done for us throughout his career Vinny Curry is another one who has sky high potential all though i don't like him as much as mercilus branch or miller
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        Mercilus, Branch, and Ingram are 3 guys I definitely would not mind seeing lined up in Blue next season. Ingram kinda reminds me of Tuck (and, like I've said before, I do like watching that SC line play. They're nasty).

        Also, call me crazy but I think Jared Crick could be a wildcard. He could be a situational tackle (such as replacing Joseph in more obvious passing situations if you still want to keep some firepower against the run, or lining up outside at end in a heavy line). He's got a strange build for a tackle at 6'6", 285, but damned if he can't crush the QB (or whoever has the ball, really).

        He'll probably get drafted as a 5-tech, but I think that with the right DC (Spags... >_>), he could be vicious in a 43.

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        • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

          [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="ELIistheFRANCHISE"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


          I will put this in the film room thread as wel but just in case U didnt see this




          Doug Martin vs Arizona State 2011 "Las Vegas Bowl"




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          Redeye, whats your thoughts/film on any DE's coming in the draft this year that could fall to the 2nd or 3rd rd.* Obviously you cant see the future, but some guys that could be great value in the 2nd/3rd?

          [/quote]Im not really feeling any of these pass rushers to be honest with U.[/quote]Whitney Mercilus looks fantastic! I actually hope we can somehow get him to go with JPP for our future DE tandem. I think Mercilus is the closest thing to JPP since JPP.. I think he rises to far up the draft for us though.. I'm thinking Janoris Jenkins at this point because i expect mercilus, kuechly, richardson and decastro to all be gone by the time we select.. I'm now hoping for Janoris Jenkins, Chase Minnifield, Pete Konz(if he comes out), Dwayne Allen, or Jerel Worthy..[/quote]I havent disagreed with U much this season but I do disagree with U about Mercilus.I dont think he is a bad prospect but I dont see anywhere near the elite level athletic ability JPP possess's .JPP had an insane burst off the line of scrimmage,Mercilus doesnt have that.What is similar about Mercilus and JPP is the motor.Both players play hard dont take plays off and are relentless.I do like that quality about Mercilus. Mercilus isnt so much about elite athleticism but hard work.Mercilus is also pretty well refined as a player.He uses his hands and arms real well. He reminds me more of a Derrick Morgan or Robert Ayers prospect then JPP or Aldon Smith.[/quote]

          I feel the same way. The closest thing to JPP since JPP was Aldon Smith. And if we're going to get a DE why don't we just trade Osi and Tuck and sign Mario Williams in free agency? He's a proven vet.

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          • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

            [quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="ELIistheFRANCHISE"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


            I will put this in the film room thread as wel but just in case U didnt see this




            Doug Martin vs Arizona State 2011 "Las Vegas Bowl"




            [/quote]




            Redeye, whats your thoughts/film on any DE's coming in the draft this year that could fall to the 2nd or 3rd rd. Obviously you cant see the future, but some guys that could be great value in the 2nd/3rd?

            [/quote]Im not really feeling any of these pass rushers to be honest with U.[/quote]Whitney Mercilus looks fantastic! I actually hope we can somehow get him to go with JPP for our future DE tandem. I think Mercilus is the closest thing to JPP since JPP.. I think he rises to far up the draft for us though.. I'm thinking Janoris Jenkins at this point because i expect mercilus, kuechly, richardson and decastro to all be gone by the time we select.. I'm now hoping for Janoris Jenkins, Chase Minnifield, Pete Konz(if he comes out), Dwayne Allen, or Jerel Worthy..[/quote]I havent disagreed with U much this season but I do disagree with U about Mercilus.I dont think he is a bad prospect but I dont see anywhere near the elite level athletic ability JPP possess's .JPP had an insane burst off the line of scrimmage,Mercilus doesnt have that.What is similar about Mercilus and JPP is the motor.Both players play hard dont take plays off and are relentless.I do like that quality about Mercilus. Mercilus isnt so much about elite athleticism but hard work.Mercilus is also pretty well refined as a player.He uses his hands and arms real well. He reminds me more of a Derrick Morgan or Robert Ayers prospect then JPP or Aldon Smith.[/quote]Got to agree w/ Redeye on Whitney Mercilus. Not a bad prospect, but nowhere near the level of JPP. I actually think Nick Perry of USC is a much better defensive end.
            [/quote] Its fine to dissagree Either way Whitney is gonna be a stud and i think u lead the nation in sacks and forced fumbles when your litteraly the focus of offensive lines unless your very athletic Hes fantastic!

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            • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

              UNC's Defense is trash! For so much supposed NFL talent they really suck! To many invisible men I would rather have Whitney mercilus then Quentin Coples

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                [quote user="nycsportzfan"]*UNC's Defense is trash! For so much supposed NFL talent** they really suck!** To many invisible men* I would rather have Whitney mercilus then Quentin Coples****
                [/quote]Quinton Coples has been horrible this year.He has motor issues. I would be very worried about drafting him in the first round.He is better off getting a little bigger and becoming a 3-4 end.He is reminding me a lot of how Carlos Dunlap was.Remember he was looked at as a real high draft pick then slipped to the 2nd round because of motor issues.Dunlap had a better frame and more upside in my opinion then Coples.

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                • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                  [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]UNC's Defense is trash! For so much supposed NFL talent they really suck! To many invisible men I would rather have Whitney mercilus then Quentin Coples
                  [/quote]Quinton Coples has been horrible this year.He has motor issues. I would be very worried about drafting him in the first round.He is better off getting a little bigger and becoming a 3-4 end.He is reminding me a lot of how Carlos Dunlap was.Remember he was looked at as a real high draft pick then slipped to the 2nd round because of motor issues.Dunlap had a better frame and more upside in my opinion then Coples.[/quote] Worded perfectly I coulden't agree more

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                  • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                    What do u guys think of Devon Still in RD 1 if were picking say 25 where i think we are now? I like Still and forgot about him the other day when i brought up the guys i was hoping for if we pick where we are slated right now Linval is progressing and we got Austin but Still is a beast ! Linval Still and Austin would be a sick trio to rotate in and out for yrs to come!



                    God i gotta get a new computer! These few buttons that don't work make it tough to post lol

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                    • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                      U guys want to be in for a treat go watch kawaan short dt purdue against w michigan today

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                        Jordan White WR W mich is a freaking beast! I have a feelinge hes going in the first 3rounds of the draft He kinda reminds me of Victor Cruz

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                        • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                          [quote user="nycsportzfan"]*Jordan White WR W mich is a freaking beast!* I have a feelinge* hes going in the first 3rounds of the draft*** He kinda reminds me of Victor Cruz
                          [/quote] I thought the same thing when I rewatched that vid I made of him today.He had 16 catches against Toledo and 3 TD's in that one. He fumbled twice though

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                          • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                            [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Jordan White WR W mich is a freaking beast! I have a feelinge hes going in the first 3rounds of the draft He kinda reminds me of Victor Cruz
                            [/quote] I thought the same thing when I rewatched that vid I made of him today.He had 16 catches against Toledo and 3 TD's in that one. He fumbled twice though[/quote]13recept 259yrd 1td today against PURDUE Jesus! Dudes a beast! He reminds me of Cruz becasue of his aiblity to be a big play threat but also a complete WR who just knows how to get open Hes a dangerous WR! He may of jumped a few wr's with his performance today! I think he'll go before guys like Ryan Broyles and Jeff Fuller

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                            • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                              [quote user="nycsportzfan"]* What do u guys think of Devon Still in RD 1 if were picking say 25******* where i think we are now?* I like Still and forgot about him the other day when i brought up the guys i was hoping for if we pick where we are slated right now***** Linval is progressing and we got Austin*** but Still is a beast !* Linval Still and Austin would be a sick trio to rotate in and out for yrs to come!



                              God i gotta get a new computer! These few buttons that don't work make it tough to post lol
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                              My favorite DT is Jerel Worthy because he has the potential to dominate. His first step is elite and he creates havoc in the backfield because of it. Now if we could get him in round 2 and straighten him out he could be a huge steal.

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                              • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                                [quote user="Spizi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] What do u guys think of Devon Still in RD 1 if were picking say 25 where i think we are now? I like Still and forgot about him the other day when i brought up the guys i was hoping for if we pick where we are slated right now Linval is progressing and we got Austin but Still is a beast ! Linval Still and Austin would be a sick trio to rotate in and out for yrs to come!



                                God i gotta get a new computer! These few buttons that don't work make it tough to post lol
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                                My favorite DT is Jerel Worthy because he has the potential to dominate. His first step is elite and he creates havoc in the backfield because of it. Now if we could get him in round 2 and straighten him out he could be a huge steal.[/quote] I don't like lazy players and as much as i like the upside i see Worthy as a lazy player He takes 2 many plays off and isn't involved in enough plays for a guy with his talent STILL is known for his motor and brings it every play and is a hard hitter and is involved all the time I'd take STILL over Worthy any day of the week I do see your point about the upside though!

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