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    [quote user="BlueSanta"]Again, some of what I am putting here is stuff that is from yesterday, but didnt make it to me in time to post.

    Nigel Bradham had a good day. People like his mobolity and coverage. His inside play is a little behind his open field and cover skills.

    Chris Rainey has done well for himself at Wr. There were question marks about him coming into the SB because he, like Percey Harvin at UF, didnt run traditional routes and was also used a lot out of the backfield. But, he has done well at the WR position today and it sounds like that the position he will be sticking with in the NFL.

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    * The biggest knock scouts seem to have w/ Bradham are
    his coverage skills. Pretty sure that's one of the main areas he's
    trying to prove to scouts/teams is that he actually has good coverage
    skills. Very underrated LB if you ask me. The guy has good size, great
    speed, excellent against the run (hits like a mack truck), & one of
    the most athletic LBer's in this class. His stock has got to be on the
    rise.



    * I dont see Chris Rainey as a WR in the NFL. There's no question he can
    catch the ball, but I think he plays RB at the next level. Just like
    Demps, Rainey is a burner. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run in the
    high 4.2's or low 4.3's at the combine & probably be drafted
    somewhere in the 4-6 round range.



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      Does anyone have the measurements of Iloka's arm length?

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        rainey said he wants to run a 4.2 flat.

        Im not sure if he fits as a WR or a HB, honestly, hes tiny,

        Could see as a kick/punt returner, as well as gunner, hes a damn good punt blocker too.

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          [quote user="slipknottin"]rainey said he wants to run a 4.2 flat.

          Im not sure if he fits as a WR or a HB, honestly, hes tiny,

          Could see as a kick/punt returner, as well as gunner, hes a damn good punt blocker too.[/quote]Yea, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he runs in that range. The problem at UF w/ Rainey was consistancy, he either looked really good at times or really bad. I just can't see him at his size being a WR in the NFL. Not to take anything away from Rainey but Harvin was a much better talent.

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            [quote user="slipknottin"]rainey said he wants to run a 4.2 flat.

            Im not sure if he fits as a WR or a HB, honestly, hes tiny,

            Could see as a kick/punt returner, as well as gunner, hes a damn good punt blocker too.[/quote]

            Yup, in the Florida high school 100m state final Rainey finished like a hair behind demps. I just wished demps showed up to the combine to see his 40 time.

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              [quote user="critters"]All my guys are getting great reviews which is good to hear.

              In regards to Dre Kirkpatrick... a lot of his hype is a result of his upside. He has great size and reach, good speed and plays physical. Teams stayed away from him for the most part. He has everything you need to be a lockdown corner but I think he is still developing. In 2010 it was obvious to me that Menzie was the best CB on Alabama's squad, but in 2011 Dre really turned up his game and pretty much evened it out. The only thing that separates them IMO is Dre's size. Menzie is a PHENOMENAL player and I think his stock is going to rise as we get closer to the draft. I've always rated him higher than D Robinson who I have thought would drop a bit as we got closer.
              [/quote]Maybe a bold statement, but I think Janoris Jenkins will be a more productive CB in the NFL opposed to Dre Kirkpatrick. I always thought Jenkins was just as good as Joe Haden at UF. Kirkpatrick has got all the tools to be a great DB & will most likely be the 2nd CB off the board after Mo Claiborne but I still think as far as production at the next level, Jenkins has got the edge.

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                [quote user="slipknottin"]Kendell Reyes is another guy to keep an eye on, DT from Uconn

                Ive seen him play in person quite a bit, hes raw, but physically very talented.

                Physically he fits the giants mold, just under 6'4, 300 pounds, 32"+ arm length.

                4th, 5th round perhaps. And I know as well as anyone the success rate of Uconn players, but Reyes is the first Uconn player ive watched on the field that actually impressed me.[/quote] Ya I litteraly just wrote a post on Kendall Reyes just this morning.. Hes certainly a player that has impressed all yr long .. His stock got pretty hig early on in the season to about midway point and then u kinda stopped hering about em So this is a good thing for him to show up and show off at the Sr Bowl and get people kinda get that stock going up again..

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                  [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Ya* I litteraly just wrote a post on Kendall Reyes just this morning..* Hes certainly a player that has impressed all yr long ..*[/quote]

                  I honestly have not had a chance to watch him this year. But I saw him alot last season.

                  Watched him pick off a pass against CIncy and run it back like 80 yards. He motors pretty good for a 300 pounder.

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                    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
                    [/quote]Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value[/quote]


                    Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

                    I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
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                      [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
                      [/quote]Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value[/quote]


                      Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

                      I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
                      [/quote] Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol) Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up.. Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there.. Works for me! Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft.. Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/ just to name a few...

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                        [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
                        [/quote]Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value[/quote]


                        Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

                        I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
                        [/quote] Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol) Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up.. Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there.. Works for me! Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft.. Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/ just to name a few...
                        [/quote]

                        Found it, from a NY times blog about senior bowl....

                        "Wagner drew praise early for his hustle and speed in special-teams
                        drills and then earned a compliment from Singletary for his good body
                        lean while changing direction in individual footwork drills. He was on
                        the line of scrimmage at outside linebacker and consistently showed the
                        ability to anchor at the point of attack and shed blocks. Through two
                        days, hes ahead of Emmanuel Acho, James-Michael Johnson and Nigel
                        Bradham as the most impressive between-the-tackles run-stuffing
                        linebacker prospect."

                        Ill be the 1st to admit, I havent seen much of him cept the highlights ppl make. I have a hard time judging by just those. I always have to remind myself that often those are promotional and dont show the negatives(not redeye of course). There isnt a bunch out there on this kid either.
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                          [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too.* He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
                          [/quote]Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value[/quote]


                          Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

                          I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
                          [/quote]* Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol)** Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up..***** Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will* and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there..* Works for me!** Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft..** Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/* just to name a few...
                          [/quote]

                          Found it, from a NY times blog about senior bowl....

                          "Wagner drew praise early for his hustle and speed in special-teams
                          drills and then earned a compliment from Singletary for his good body
                          lean while changing direction in individual footwork drills. He was on
                          the line of scrimmage at outside linebacker and consistently showed the
                          ability to anchor at the point of attack and shed blocks. Through two
                          days, hes ahead of Emmanuel Acho, James-Michael Johnson and Nigel
                          Bradham as the most impressive between-the-tackles run-stuffing
                          linebacker prospect."

                          Ill be the 1st to admit, I havent seen much of him cept the highlights ppl make. I have a hard time judging by just those. I always have to remind myself that often those are promotional and dont show the negatives(not redeye of course). There isnt a bunch out there on this kid either.
                          [/quote]I will put some more up.The thing that I like is he has those long arms.its easy for him to shed lineman

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                            [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
                            [/quote]Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value[/quote]


                            Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

                            I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
                            [/quote] Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol) Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up.. Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there.. Works for me! Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft.. Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/ just to name a few...
                            [/quote]

                            Found it, from a NY times blog about senior bowl....

                            "Wagner drew praise early for his hustle and speed in special-teams
                            drills and then earned a compliment from Singletary for his good body
                            lean while changing direction in individual footwork drills. He was on
                            the line of scrimmage at outside linebacker and consistently showed the
                            ability to anchor at the point of attack and shed blocks. Through two
                            days, hes ahead of Emmanuel Acho, James-Michael Johnson and Nigel
                            Bradham as the most impressive between-the-tackles run-stuffing
                            linebacker prospect."

                            Ill be the 1st to admit, I havent seen much of him cept the highlights ppl make. I have a hard time judging by just those. I always have to remind myself that often those are promotional and dont show the negatives(not redeye of course). There isnt a bunch out there on this kid either.
                            [/quote] Ya i've seen him a couple times now and done tons of re-search and everything i read or find out or what i've seen has been incredible impressive.. Utah St as a hole is a fun team to follow..

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                              [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Redeyejedi"] Not much going on this year though. Most of those numbers came his freshman year I still have his 2010 game vs Nevada. I want to see if he matches up with Virgil green any[/quote] Yea, I wonder if he was doing different things... IE- I know he was actually playing a bit of corner earlier in his college career, maybe as he got older they moved him more and more to deep third, where you just dont get as many opportunities to get your hands on the ball, especially if teams respect you and try to keep it away from you.[/quote]A guy on a draft board told me to look at his 2010 tape because the corner play was better.He said Ilokka had trouble this season in zone because of how bad the corner play was im going to take his word for it and check it out.I havent watched him much either season but I remember thinking he looked better last year

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                                [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Redeyejedi"] Not much going on this year though. Most of those numbers came his freshman year I still have his 2010 game vs Nevada. I want to see if he matches up with Virgil green any[/quote] Yea, I wonder if he was doing different things... IE- I know he was actually playing a bit of corner earlier in his college career, maybe as he got older they moved him more and more to deep third, where you just dont get as many opportunities to get your hands on the ball, especially if teams respect you and try to keep it away from you.[/quote]A guy on a draft board told me to look at his 2010 tape because the corner play was better.He said Iloka had trouble this season in zone because of how bad the corner play was. *Im going to take his word for it and check it out.I havent watched much of him either season but I remember thinking he looked better last year.

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