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  • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]


    I was checking out Charlie Campbell's latest mock that came out this morning, and i really disliked what he had for us... Not all the picks, but he just had a ton of guys who were hit or miss, which is fine, if u have 1or2, but he had about 4of the 5picks, as hit or miss types.. I think we'll take a couple high upside guys who drop, but not that many...




    His draft had us going




    1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St- Funny, because i've been saying that i could really see us grabbing Worthy if hes on the board still at 32, as hes got the upside, measuables, and decent on field production, and plays a positon of great importance to the GIANTS success..




    2. Zerbie Sanders OT Fla St- Big bust here, i think.. Just not impressed with what i see from this guy..




    3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- Fine with this pick... Been a pierce fan since 2010..




    4. Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- Puked in my mouth!




    5. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma- No problem here, but 2many hit or miss guys to go with another , in my opinion..




    So Anyways, i tweaked it, and think i made a nice mock for us, that i'm proud of..lol




    1. Jerel Worthy DT Mich St




    2. Bobby Wagner LB Utah St- Goff is unknown at this point, if he'll even be back, and i love the thumper from Utah St, whos everywhere on the field, and very consistent...




    3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple




    4. Ladarious Green TE La Tech- More of a pass catcher, could team with bennett to be a formidable duo, if ballard and beckum have trouble getting back from injury..




    5. Tom Compton OT S.Dakota St- I really like this small school stud, who has made some noise since the offseason began... Great Measurables, and dominated small school comp..




    [/quote] If i were to finish the mock of, which i all ready should of done, i'd of gone with




    5.(Comp for cofield) Danny Coale WR Va Tech- I think he fits our team like a glove...




    6. Sean Cattouse SS California- Another sleeper of mine, i think has the run stuffing potential, and is somewhat of a intimidator out there, and could possibly fit that deon grant role for us..




    7. Garth Gerhart C Arz St- Most underrated C in this class.. I think hes better then David Molk to be honest, and woulden't be surprised if he ended up a starter down the line..




    [/quote] I Gotta do a new mock now that i know we got a extra 4th rd pick!!!!!!lol Freaking stoked! Reese is gonna kill it this yr, yet again! Comp pick changes my philosophy..




    1. Doug Martin RB Boise St- We simply need another RB, with Bradshaw's always injured feet, and jacobs gone as of now, and nothing behind him to speak of, as far as what they've shown to this point.. Doug Martin is the most complete back in this draft, in my opinion.. Hes a bowling ball, and ELI will love having him as a weapon to throw to outta backfield...




    2. Bobby Wagner LB Utah St- Goff is unknown if he'll be back, and Wagner is a all over the field LB that makes plays and hits hard.. I think Jaquian Williams and Wagner would make tons of plays side by side for yrs to come...




    3. Jeff Allen OT Illinois- Could help at T or G, and could be a find late 3rd, if still on board...




    4. Ladarious Green TE La Tech- Tons of upside as a pass catcher, and Pope should be able to help his blocking down the line.. Green and Eli in the redzone is a scary thought for defenses...




    4.(comp) Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College- Solid Value, and fits the Size the Giants like at CB... This has Reese Value pick written all over it..




    5. Tom Compton OT S.Dakota St- Big upside, and great measuarables, and has performed well in offseason workouts.. Keep the depth growing on the oline... I think Compton could max out as a LT in the pros...




    6. Scott Solomon DE Rice- I love this kid.. Hes one of my top sleepers, and would be perfect to fill the role that Tollefson held for us, as a rotational DE that can rush the passer...




    7. Derek Moye WR Penn St- Give this kid a legit WR, and watch out.. He's gonna love having a QB who can actually get him the ball, if given a legit shot.. Moye will be a steal if drafted by Giants...

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    thats a hot draft, ima buy it a drink and hit on it. Dont tell my wife.
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    • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

      [quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

      If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

      ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
      [/quote]

      To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
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        [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

        If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

        ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
        [/quote]

        To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
        [/quote] I put Gilmore down in the thread i started, "players u think giants will draft and or show high interest in"... As u said, i feel Gilmore has Giants written all over him, and really reminds me alot of Corey Webster... I bet Reese is drewling over Gilmore and Omar Bolden, when he thinks of the corners in this draft...

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        • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

          [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]


          I was checking out Charlie Campbell's latest mock that came out this morning, and i really disliked what he had for us... Not all the picks, but he just had a ton of guys who were hit or miss, which is fine, if u have 1or2, but he had about 4of the 5picks, as hit or miss types.. I think we'll take a couple high upside guys who drop, but not that many...




          His draft had us going




          1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St- Funny, because i've been saying that i could really see us grabbing Worthy if hes on the board still at 32, as hes got the upside, measuables, and decent on field production, and plays a positon of great importance to the GIANTS success..




          2. Zerbie Sanders OT Fla St- Big bust here, i think.. Just not impressed with what i see from this guy..




          3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- Fine with this pick... Been a pierce fan since 2010..




          4. Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- Puked in my mouth!




          5. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma- No problem here, but 2many hit or miss guys to go with another , in my opinion..




          So Anyways, i tweaked it, and think i made a nice mock for us, that i'm proud of..lol




          1. Jerel Worthy DT Mich St




          2. Bobby Wagner LB Utah St- Goff is unknown at this point, if he'll even be back, and i love the thumper from Utah St, whos everywhere on the field, and very consistent...




          3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple




          4. Ladarious Green TE La Tech- More of a pass catcher, could team with bennett to be a formidable duo, if ballard and beckum have trouble getting back from injury..




          5. Tom Compton OT S.Dakota St- I really like this small school stud, who has made some noise since the offseason began... Great Measurables, and dominated small school comp..




          [/quote] If i were to finish the mock of, which i all ready should of done, i'd of gone with




          5.(Comp for cofield) Danny Coale WR Va Tech- I think he fits our team like a glove...




          6. Sean Cattouse SS California- Another sleeper of mine, i think has the run stuffing potential, and is somewhat of a intimidator out there, and could possibly fit that deon grant role for us..




          7. Garth Gerhart C Arz St- Most underrated C in this class.. I think hes better then David Molk to be honest, and woulden't be surprised if he ended up a starter down the line..




          [/quote] I Gotta do a new mock now that i know we got a extra 4th rd pick!!!!!!lol Freaking stoked! Reese is gonna kill it this yr, yet again! Comp pick changes my philosophy..




          1. Doug Martin RB Boise St- We simply need another RB, with Bradshaw's always injured feet, and jacobs gone as of now, and nothing behind him to speak of, as far as what they've shown to this point.. Doug Martin is the most complete back in this draft, in my opinion.. Hes a bowling ball, and ELI will love having him as a weapon to throw to outta backfield...




          2. Bobby Wagner LB Utah St- Goff is unknown if he'll be back, and Wagner is a all over the field LB that makes plays and hits hard.. I think Jaquian Williams and Wagner would make tons of plays side by side for yrs to come...




          3. Jeff Allen OT Illinois- Could help at T or G, and could be a find late 3rd, if still on board...




          4. Ladarious Green TE La Tech- Tons of upside as a pass catcher, and Pope should be able to help his blocking down the line.. Green and Eli in the redzone is a scary thought for defenses...




          4.(comp) Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College- Solid Value, and fits the Size the Giants like at CB... This has Reese Value pick written all over it..




          5. Tom Compton OT S.Dakota St- Big upside, and great measuarables, and has performed well in offseason workouts.. Keep the depth growing on the oline... I think Compton could max out as a LT in the pros...




          6. Scott Solomon DE Rice- I love this kid.. Hes one of my top sleepers, and would be perfect to fill the role that Tollefson held for us, as a rotational DE that can rush the passer...




          7. Derek Moye WR Penn St- Give this kid a legit WR, and watch out.. He's gonna love having a QB who can actually get him the ball, if given a legit shot.. Moye will be a steal if drafted by Giants...

          [/quote]
          thats a hot draft, ima buy it a drink and hit on it. Dont tell my wife.
          [/quote] LOL! I'm glad u like!

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          • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

            [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

            If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

            ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
            [/quote]

            To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
            [/quote]You really think so??

            The way he shies away from contact at the line leads me to believe the opposite about him. Our CBs are big, physical, bastids that can rough you up at the line no problem. It looks like Gilmore has never laid hands on someone within 10yds ofthe LOS
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            • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

              [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

              If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

              ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
              [/quote]

              To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
              [/quote]You really think so??

              The way he shies away from contact at the line leads me to believe the opposite about him. Our CBs are big, physical, bastids that can rough you up at the line no problem. It looks like Gilmore has never laid hands on someone within 10yds ofthe LOS
              [/quote]

              That's SC's defensive scheme. They play a LOT of press/bail or off man coverage, which really clashes with his skill set. He's pretty ferocious in run support, and is a good blitzer as well (I think I've even seen him line up at LB).

              In the two vids Redeye has of him, I believe he got 1 punt block returned for a TD, a couple TFL's, a sack or two and at least 1 pick. There are low-lights as well, but most of the catches on him are when they have both CB's lining up 10yrds off. But then, the play usually stops when he arrives.

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              • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

                If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

                ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
                [/quote]

                To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
                [/quote] I put Gilmore down in the thread i started, "players u think giants will draft and or show high interest in"... As u said, i feel Gilmore has Giants written all over him, and really reminds me alot of Corey Webster... I bet Reese is drewling over Gilmore and Omar Bolden, when he thinks of the corners in this draft...[/quote]I think you're greatly overvaluing Gilmore. The guy did not have a good year this year. He got beat multiple times over and simply didn't produce the way he has in years past. He's a 2nd rd pick imo.

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                • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                  [quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

                  If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

                  ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
                  [/quote]

                  To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
                  [/quote]You really think so??

                  The way he shies away from contact at the line leads me to believe the opposite about him. Our CBs are big, physical, bastids that can rough you up at the line no problem. It looks like Gilmore has never laid hands on someone within 10yds ofthe LOS
                  [/quote]

                  That's SC's defensive scheme. They play a LOT of press/bail or off man coverage, which really clashes with his skill set. He's pretty ferocious in run support, and is a good blitzer as well (I think I've even seen him line up at LB).

                  In the two vids Redeye has of him, I believe he got 1 punt block returned for a TD, a couple TFL's, a sack or two and at least 1 pick. There are low-lights as well, but most of the catches on him are when they have both CB's lining up 10yrds off. But then, the play usually stops when he arrives.
                  [/quote]Im no college ball expert, but it just made me very uneasy to see him rarely touching the WRs off the line. Yes, he's damned good in coverage, but I want our guys roughing up the WRs off the line
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                  • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                    [quote user="NCGiant23"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

                    If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

                    ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
                    [/quote]

                    To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
                    [/quote] I put Gilmore down in the thread i started, "players u think giants will draft and or show high interest in"... As u said, i feel Gilmore has Giants written all over him, and really reminds me alot of Corey Webster... I bet Reese is drewling over Gilmore and Omar Bolden, when he thinks of the corners in this draft...[/quote]I think you're greatly overvaluing Gilmore. The guy did not have a good year this year. He got beat multiple times over and simply didn't produce the way he has in years past. He's a 2nd rd pick imo.
                    [/quote] Who'd he get beat by? Jarious Wright did all his damage against other db's, with both of his TD's coming when Gilmore was not playing him.... Clemson did squat in the air against them... Really no one outside of Arkansas did much in the air against S.Carolina, unless u include GA, and that wasen't much to do with gilmore either..

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                    • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                      [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="NCGiant23"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Watching some more Gilmore, and while I liked him before, I never really WATCHED him (I spent more time watching SC's line, because when they were on, it was like watching the G-Men when their line's going. A thing of beauty...).

                      If the top DE's aren't around, and Gilmore is, I would wholeheartedly support that pick. He really reminds me of TT24 (although, I've seen comparisons to pre-injury Ross). He plays FAST, hits hard in the run game, and makes plays in the passing game, as well as on ST's.

                      ...and we need more guys with great hair (which is one reason why I want them to nab Marcel Jones)
                      [/quote]

                      To me, Gilmore has Giants written all over him. My only concern is how he did in interviews. But, if that went ov er well, I could see us jumping on him.
                      [/quote]* I put Gilmore down in the thread i started, "players u think giants will draft and or show high interest in"... As u said, i feel Gilmore has Giants written all over him, and really reminds me alot of Corey Webster...* I bet Reese is drewling over Gilmore and Omar Bolden,* when he thinks of the corners in this draft...[/quote]I think you're greatly overvaluing Gilmore.* The guy did not have a good year this year.* He got beat multiple times over and simply didn't produce the way he has in years past.* He's a 2nd rd pick imo.
                      [/quote]* Who'd he get beat by?* Jarious Wright did all his damage against other db's, with both of his TD's coming when Gilmore was not playing him.... Clemson did squat in the air against them...* Really no one outside of Arkansas did much in the air against S.Carolina, unless u include GA, and that wasen't much to do with gilmore either..[/quote]He played well against Clemson I was going to cut a vid of him but there was nothing there to do. Donnie Fletcher and Gilmore to me are the 2 guys that look like Giant corners the most in this draft

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                      • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                        [quote user="Redeyejedi"] Donnie Fletcher and Gilmore to me are the 2 guys that look like Giant corners the most in this draft[/quote]

                        I really like Donnie Fletcher. Hard to tell when he will get drafted though. Ive seen him as a 4th rounder, but he did run sub 4.4 at his proday. Might be a late riser as teams look at him more.

                        Still not sure how he didnt get invited to the combine.

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                        • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                          PRO DAY
                          March 28:
                          Central Florida, Connecticut, Newberry, Northern Iowa, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Carolina State




                          Here are the other notable performers from Vanderbilt’s pro day:




                          Casey Hayward, CB (5-11 1/4, 193) — Brett Maxie, current Dallas Cowboys secondary coach
                          and a veteran of 13 NFL seasons as a safety, worked Hayward out during
                          position drills. Hayward — who worked out at the combine — is a solid
                          player who helped himself out during the workout, and figures to be
                          selected in the lower half of the second round or early in the third
                          round.



                          Notre Dame's Smith ready to face NFL's new breed of tight ends


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                            Alshon Jeffery just threw down 4.39 and 4.47sec 40 times.

                            36.5in vertical, 10'2" long jump, and weighed in at 213.

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                              [quote user="Raptor22"]Alshon Jeffery just threw down 4.39 and 4.47sec 40 times.

                              36.5in vertical, 10'2" long jump, and weighed in at 213.

                              [/quote]4.52 official time??

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                              • Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

                                We've talked about sleepers, and risers... but what about the guys going in the other direction?

                                What diamonds do you think will/could fall into JR's hands?

                                Personally, I've been thinking that Micheal Brockers will be the DT to fall. The kid is raw as hell, and he played too heavy, but he fits JR's mold to a T. If he could get down to a semi-lean 305, he could be a terror.

                                Also, I'm looking at Kuechly as a possible faller. I love the kid, but given how the LB market has moved, or rather, hasn't, I don't see much interest in LB's this year in the NFL. Also, I'm wondering how much of his combine numbers are the product of post-season workouts. His combine numbers were as good if not better than Patrick Willis', and while Kuechly is a great prospect, I don't see "best LB in the league" when I watch him play. And given how prone GM's are to talking themselves out of picks, if I'M thinking that, they probably are too.

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