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  • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Rutgers is a embaressment.. 4penalties in the first like 4minutes.. The coach is pathetic! A huge reflection on him, who was a Oline coach for yrs...
    Nova is terrible

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    • Cant believe Brandon Coleman dropped that. Nova has been throwing uncatchable balls to him all night. He finally gets 1 to catch and he drops it

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      • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
        Cant believe Brandon Coleman dropped that. Nova has been throwing uncatchable balls to him all night. He finally gets 1 to catch and he drops it
        Rutgers turned it around butthey aren't beating anyone worth a snot.. Nevada massacred S.FLA last wk, and BJ Daniels has never developed into anything special...

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        • Man, i just heard the funniest thing ever on the NFL game.. Clay Matthews recorded his 4th sacks and the guy whos doing the game with Mayock goes like this.. " I think Clay Matthews is gonna be Defensive Player of the week unless someone has a better one then he did tonight"....LOL Really? lol

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          • Like i did last yr, i'm gonna do a mock after every game(some point during week after the game), picking in the area the giants are perdicted to pick at that time based on the record.. As of now, i'm gonna couple the loss with being the SB champs and take a guess that were in the 25-30range.. I'm gonna have as at 28 for this week.. The more weeks go by, it'll get more clear... For the first 3-5 weeks, i'm only gonna do 4or5 rds... I'll start doing 7rds as the college season goes along and more is figured out about the prospects.. So anyways, without further adu..lol

            1. Chance Warmack G Alabama- It was outta warmack, fluker, wagner, okafor, byndom, and eifert for me here.. I love kawaan short but think he'll be gone by this time.. I chose a G over T because i think Warmack is a special player and Special player sare hard to come by very late in the 1st rd.. I do like Wagner alot, but i feel warmack is more of a sure thing(as far as sure things go..lol) A flat out road grader, warmack will really help our run game and to keep guys from rushing up the middle..

            2. Terry Hawthorne CB Illinois- I really like this kid and hes got solid size and with the loss of TT for the yr, who knows what his deal is going forward and as of today, Prince is stilll a big question mark as is are overall depth.. Hawthorne combines solid size/speed combo with good ball skills..He was tied for the BIG 10 lead in Passes Defended per game in 2011... He hasen't made a huge splash yet this yr, but the kid can ball..

            3. Devin Taylor DE S.Carolina- He might be gone before end of rd 3, but if hes there, id take a shot on all that potential. And with the loss of Osi most likely after this season, DE could be a need..

            4. Graham Pocic C Illinois- LOVE EM! Just freaking LOVE EM! Gritty hard nose kid with Tackle size who i think will eventually work his way into the 3rd rd range.. Adding 2olineman in the first 4rds is probably a good idea..

            5. AJ Klein ILB Iowa St- Playmaking Thumper in the middle.. A leader for the cyclones, and could come in and push Herzlich and possibly replace Blackburn.. Either way, we could use someone at MLB that challenges both of those guys, or take one of there spots if there not retained after the yr...

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            • Some think Hawthorne will be a first rounder. Not sure about that yet round 2 seems more likely. it will depend on which underclassmen come out. Illinois has some nice NFL talent but arent that good of a team. Weird how that works out some times. Giants are going to have to take the best Olineman they can get. At this point where they play doesnt matter. U can argue that all 5 spots could use an upgrade. Could Chris Snee get cut? His cap number is almost 8 million next season. He has declined rather quickly. He is Coughlins son in law which complicates things. Giants need help on the line and 8 million can fetch a really good Offensive lineman. Dallas Thomas from Tennessee would be fantastic. His ability to play LT or LG would upgrade this team immediatly. Barret Jones is another guy that can play multiple spots.

              By the way have u been banned. They have banned me twice this week. I keep getting caught up in there spam bannings

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              • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                Some think Hawthorne will be a first rounder. Not sure about that yet round 2 seems more likely. it will depend on which underclassmen come out. Illinois has some nice NFL talent but arent that good of a team. Weird how that works out some times. Giants are going to have to take the best Olineman they can get. At this point where they play doesnt matter. U can argue that all 5 spots could use an upgrade. Could Chris Snee get cut? His cap number is almost 8 million next season. He has declined rather quickly. He is Coughlins son in law which complicates things. Giants need help on the line and 8 million can fetch a really good Offensive lineman. Dallas Thomas from Tennessee would be fantastic. His ability to play LT or LG would upgrade this team immediatly. Barret Jones is another guy that can play multiple spots.

                By the way have u been banned. They have banned me twice this week. I keep getting caught up in there spam bannings
                Ya, i like Dallas Thomas alot as well.. Barrett Jones is my dream pick, even ahead of Kawaan Short.. As u know, my mocks aren't just the guys i want most becuase i try to do em realistaclly, and i dont see Kawaan or Barrett being on the board where i have this mock taking place which is 28th overall.. Ur right about some teams having alot of talent that aren't good teams being weird.. The reason is that those teams are so weak at other positons, that it isn't enough for them to have 5 really good players overall.. As far as illinois goes, they don't have a QB.. Sheelhouse or whatever his name is, is kinda terrible.. Plus they lost Tavon Wilson, Whitney Mercilus, and A.J Jenkins...


                And no, i haven't been banned.. What do the mods keep killing ur account becuase its right in the mix of the spammers? If so, the Mods need to be more careful.. I've actually reported spammers about 10times all ready.. Just trying to do my part..

                2things i really dislike about these new boards are the fact theres a ton of spam and that there isn't a forum for posts ur involed in.. U have to look all over for the posts u are involved in, to check if u have responses.. Its just not as personal... Theres always like a gazillion threads going on...

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                • Hey Redeye, how much do u like Brennan Williams? Also, whats ur take on Kevin Red****? Is Red**** worth a 2nd rd pick?

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                  • Has anyone seen Travis Johnson of San Jose state. I have 1 of his games from last year and he had 4 sacks. I saw he had 6 TFL against UC davis last week cant find the game anywhere.

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                    • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                      Like i did last yr, i'm gonna do a mock after every game(some point during week after the game), picking in the area the giants are perdicted to pick at that time based on the record.. As of now, i'm gonna couple the loss with being the SB champs and take a guess that were in the 25-30range.. I'm gonna have as at 28 for this week.. The more weeks go by, it'll get more clear... For the first 3-5 weeks, i'm only gonna do 4or5 rds... I'll start doing 7rds as the college season goes along and more is figured out about the prospects.. So anyways, without further adu..lol

                      1. Chance Warmack G Alabama- It was outta warmack, fluker, wagner, okafor, byndom, and eifert for me here.. I love kawaan short but think he'll be gone by this time.. I chose a G over T because i think Warmack is a special player and Special player sare hard to come by very late in the 1st rd.. I do like Wagner alot, but i feel warmack is more of a sure thing(as far as sure things go..lol) A flat out road grader, warmack will really help our run game and to keep guys from rushing up the middle..

                      2. Terry Hawthorne CB Illinois- I really like this kid and hes got solid size and with the loss of TT for the yr, who knows what his deal is going forward and as of today, Prince is stilll a big question mark as is are overall depth.. Hawthorne combines solid size/speed combo with good ball skills..He was tied for the BIG 10 lead in Passes Defended per game in 2011... He hasen't made a huge splash yet this yr, but the kid can ball..
                      Well, you know I like Warmack. I still think OT is a bigger need and a more likely 1st round selection as well. But, if you want to make improving your interior blocking a priority in the offseason, I cant think of a better guy than that.

                      As far as Hawthorne, I like his measurables a lot. He is a hustler, and a good character guy as far as I can see. In all those ways he is a "Reese type" guy. He is also very good closer to the ball and combined with his WR skills(he plays some wr occasionaly) he is a ball hawk. My 1 hesitation about him, which he can easily correct, is his man v man skills downfield. What I have seen of him looks good, but I want to see him vs top notch wrs in man coverage.

                      Luckily for us this is a good year for big CBs. Banks, Rhodes, and Amerson are all good prospects. I think Rhodes is the best fit for what we do here. He dominates WRs early in the route more than anyone in the draft. That is exactly what you want in a passrush oriented defense. However, I would not complain about any of those guys.
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                      • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                        Well, you know I like Warmack. I still think OT is a bigger need and a more likely 1st round selection as well. But, if you want to make improving your interior blocking a priority in the offseason, I cant think of a better guy than that.

                        As far as Hawthorne, I like his measurables a lot. He is a hustler, and a good character guy as far as I can see. In all those ways he is a "Reese type" guy. He is also very good closer to the ball and combined with his WR skills(he plays some wr occasionaly) he is a ball hawk. My 1 hesitation about him, which he can easily correct, is his man v man skills downfield. What I have seen of him looks good, but I want to see him vs top notch wrs in man coverage.

                        Luckily for us this is a good year for big CBs. Banks, Rhodes, and Amerson are all good prospects. I think Rhodes is the best fit for what we do here. He dominates WRs early in the route more than anyone in the draft. That is exactly what you want in a passrush oriented defense. However, I would not complain about any of those guys.
                        Ya, i think Banks, Rhodes, and Amerson will all be gone in the first 23 picks.. THere extremely good.. I love Banks.. Hes probably my favorite CB in this yrs draft.. I think Rhodes ends up going before Amerson in this yrs draft.. Thats my upset or splash suggestion so far..lol Remember it here first, RHODES goes before AMERSON.. Hes insane!

                        As for my 1st pick, i'm completely sold on Warmack.. As much as i like Wagner, Wisconsins terrible this yr, and don't look anything like they did with Zeitler and and Peter Konz in the run game... I'm not saying Wagners doing bad because i haven't really delved into Wisconsin yet, but from what i have seen there Run game is alot weaker overall, which obviously has some to do with Russell WIlson being gone as well.. I'm jjust saying, Warmack is the real deal and at least is a Olineman, and is a positon of need with guys like Boothe, Diehl, eitehr aging or nto being long term solutions.. Also, u can't just pick Tackle because its what we need.. If theres a guy there whos better at a positon, and its still a positon of somehwat need, u take em.. We have FA'cy and also i'm more intrigued with Brewer and Mosley then i am with anything we have at G... Its kinda like Decastro last yr.. I feel Warmack is very special like Decastro was, and u dont' pass on special players..

                        Sorry if i'm all over right now, i just woke up from a nap..lol

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                        • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                          Has anyone seen Travis Johnson of San Jose state. I have 1 of his games from last year and he had 4 sacks. I saw he had 6 TFL against UC davis last week cant find the game anywhere.
                          They got a OT i'm interested in as well.. I forget his first name, but his Last name is Quessneberry.. I wonder if hes related to the Miss St center from last yr?

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                          • I know that we've been discussing players, but whos a handful of ur guys faves this yr? Not nessecarily talking about the top 10 type guys like Robert Woods and Barkley..etc More of the guys who are as of now perdicted in the mid to late 1st or beyond range??

                            U guys know most of mine all ready..

                            Kawaan Short DT Purdue
                            Kenny Vacarro S Texas
                            Barrett Jones C/G/T Bama
                            Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas
                            Chance Warmack G Bama

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                            • If i had a Honarble Mention, i'd throw Tyler Eifert TE ND, Khaseem Greene LB Rutgers, and Jonathan Banks CB Miss St.

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                              • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                                Ya, i think Banks, Rhodes, and Amerson will all be gone in the first 23 picks.. THere extremely good.. I love Banks.. Hes probably my favorite CB in this yrs draft.. I think Rhodes ends up going before Amerson in this yrs draft.. Thats my upset or splash suggestion so far..lol Remember it here first, RHODES goes before AMERSON.. Hes insane!
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                                We agree on Warmack.

                                As to Rhodes, I think the world of him. I think his stats this year will suffer as teams will undoubtably avoid him. I think he will go early too. However, his knee injury last year, might scare away some teams and it is on that hope that I hang my hopes that he drops a little to us in the draft. In all of college footbal, at this moment, I cannot think of a player that had "Giants" written on him more. He is big, fast, physical, a very good tackler, and a hard worker. To be honest, there are about 5 guys on the FSU defense coming out this year that I think are solid NFL prospects. I also wouldnt mind their kicker.
                                Last edited by BlueSanta; 09-14-2012, 11:01 PM.
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