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  • a couple guys i really like are featured on Waltfootballs STOCK UP report this week.. Mauti and Trufant.. Mauti is a stud, and i would love to get em, if hes on the board in RD 3, but its doubtful, unless were picking in the first half, which i hope were not..


    Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
    The Huskies had a low-scoring upset win over Stanford and Trufant was a big reason why. They sold out to stop the Cardinal and its power running game. By doing that Washington left its cornerbacks on an island and Trufant came up with a clutch game. He broke up a couple of deep passes with tight coverage. On one, Trufant ripped the receiver's arm away to force an incompletion and a punt. It was a clutch play and impressive strength from the senior.

    Trufant was in man coverage on tight end Levine Toilolo, a 6-foot-8 tight end on Stanford's final fourth down attempt. The Cardinal signal-caller threw the ball up for grabs and a it was little overthrown towards the defender. Trufant made a leaping interception to save the upset win for the Huskies.

    It is rare for Trufant (6-0, 186) to be tested as most teams stay away from him, but he held up perfectly and showed some real ball skills against Stanford. Without a lot of opportunities his ball skills are undefined, but he certainly showed them with two pass breakups and an interception against the Cardinal. Trufant looks like a solid second-round pick.

    Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State
    The hard-nosed run defender came up with three big plays in the passing game to help Penn State cruise to a road win over Illinois. Mauti undercut a route On a fourth-and-goal just before halftime and picked off a pass at the goal line. He ran for the corner, turned upfield and then trucked down the field. The senior was tackled a half yard short of the end zone for a 99-yard interception return.

    Mauti started a sack with a nice blitz off the edge in the third quarter. He later grabbed his second interception after reading the quarterback to beat the receiver to a floated pass. Mauti also made a great tackle on punt defense right after the ball was caught.

    Mauti has totaled 48 tackles, two interceptions, 1.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and two passes broken up so far in 2012. The 6-foot-2, 232-pounder will probably will have to move to outside linebacker at ths next level. Mauti isn't the fastest defender, but he's instinctive, intelligent and physical. Mauti definitely will be a good special teams contributor in the NFL. This outing should help his cause and looks like a solid mid-rounder.

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    • Trufant is no secret anymore. If he had a good combine and the way Cbs are valued now I think he could sneak into the 1st.

      We are going to see people take more chances on cornerbacks in the coming years.
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      • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
        Trufant is no secret anymore. If he had a good combine and the way Cbs are valued now I think he could sneak into the 1st.

        We are going to see people take more chances on cornerbacks in the coming years.
        I agree 100pct with ur assement on Trufant.. I feel the same way about Jordan Poyer and Carrington Byndom.. Obviously not all 3 of Byndom Trufant and Poyer will go in RD 1 with seemingly Banks, Milliner, Rhodes, and possibly Amerson all ready ticketed for RD 1 as well, but i could see 2of those 3sneak in there..

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        • If u could pick a player to trade up for assuming the giants are gonna pick somewhere between 25-30, and trying to be realistic about it, without giving up the entire draft this yr and next, what would it be? This is just for fun of course..

          I would not mind seeing the GIANTS trade up to the late teens/20th overall to get either Barrett Jones, Xavier Rhodes, Jackson Jeffcoat, Manti Te'o, kawaan Short, or Jake Matthews.. I love all those players, and if i wasent' overly sure one of em were gonna be on the board, i'd consider trading up.. Obviously Reese is a genius at staying put and getting quality players, but just for fun, thats what i think...

          If we traded up to say 19th overall from 28th, it'd cost something like our 1st, 3rd, and 3rd in 2014 probably? So basically ur giving up 2 3rd rders..

          I'd love to do that and see a draft like this

          RD1... Barrett Jones G/T/C Bama
          RD2... Desmond Trufant CB Washington
          RD4.. Everett Dawkins DT Florida St.
          RD5.. Earl Wolff SS NC State
          RD6.. Jonathan Bostic ILB Florida
          RD7.. Ryan Griffin TE Uconn

          Thats not 2shabby a draft with losing a couple 3rd rders over the next couple yrs... Barrett Jones is Mr.Versatility and we could put him anywhere including possibly LT if need be.. U still see the Defense get really beefed up albeit, no pass rusher, but Everett Dawkins is a solid DT which could be a need if Ausin dont' get it togehter and Canty is a cap casulty.. Ryan Griffin is a really solid pass catching TE who can block and would be awesome with a better passing offense around em.. Just the kinda player Reese gets and turns into stud.. Wolff is one of my fave sleepers, and Trufant could end up being our best CB 3yrs down road...

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          • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
            Walts mock just came out.. 3rds, and i'm glad he finally got rid of a QB to us in rd 3, but still not a huge fan..

            rd 1.. Alex Ogletree ilb georgia- i like the player, but he still had Alex Okafor on the board, and our dline needs replenishing more then our LB's...
            rd 2... James Gayle de va tech- not a bad choice, but i'd rather of gone okafor in rd 1, and desmond trufant in rd 2... Also Wagner was on his board..
            rd 3... Alex Hurst ot lsu- i like this pick.. it makes sense.. i would of probably kept this pick.. so according to his board, i'd of gone okafor, trufant, and hurst.
            I really like Ogletree guy is athletic as hell That was his first game back against Tenn he played like a madman.

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            • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
              I really like Ogletree guy is athletic as hell That was his first game back against Tenn he played like a madman.
              Agreed.. I like em alot as well.. I just don't think its our biggest area for concnern, and i'd only go Ogletree if the board is completely bare of all these players.. Jake Matthews, Barrett Jones, Alex Okafor, Chance Warmack, Jonathan Banks, Kawaan Short, Jackson Jeffcoat, and possibly Tyler Eifert.. I'd take one of those guys over Ogletree, not because i dont like ogletree, but because i feel the need and value is better with other players.. Shoot, even Saftey is looking more and more like a need and with guys like TJ Mcdonald out there, we may just need to take em...

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              • I'm eager to see how the Dolphins do in this yrs draft.. Tannehill is actually looking solid(very surprising to me), and they will have a early rd pick in 1st, plus 2 early 2nd's and obviously a early 3rd.. U can do some serious damage with that..

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                • Another guy i'd consdier if i was the Giants in RD 1 is Dion jordan.. I'm falling in love with him as a prospect, and i think JPP and Jordan would be fearsome for yrs to come.. That would be a intersting surprise 1st rder...

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                  • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                    Another guy i'd consdier if i was the Giants in RD 1 is Dion jordan.. I'm falling in love with him as a prospect, and i think JPP and Jordan would be fearsome for yrs to come.. That would be a intersting surprise 1st rder...
                    He is a playmaker, but I think he ends up in a 34 system as the weakside backer. At least, I think that is the position he will hold the most value for and will likely be drafted to play.

                    You have to love his versatility though
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                    • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                      He is a playmaker, but I think he ends up in a 34 system as the weakside backer. At least, I think that is the position he will hold the most value for and will likely be drafted to play.

                      You have to love his versatility though
                      The funniest thing happened.. I was looking at the prospect rankings on CBSSPORTS, and decided to take a peak at there Mocks.. I sh-it u not, Dane Brugler has the giants taking Dion Jordan!!!lol Rang has us going Eifert.. Its funny though, that someone else was thinking that. Either way, i think he could be a versatile Pass rusher for us, that we could stand up and put in the 3point stance, maybe blitz em from the SLB positon...etc KIWI is having a terrible season, so SLB and DE could be somewhat of a need..

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                      • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                        The funniest thing happened.. I was looking at the prospect rankings on CBSSPORTS, and decided to take a peak at there Mocks.. I sh-it u not, Dane Brugler has the giants taking Dion Jordan!!!lol Rang has us going Eifert.. Its funny though, that someone else was thinking that. Either way, i think he could be a versatile Pass rusher for us, that we could stand up and put in the 3point stance, maybe blitz em from the SLB positon...etc KIWI is having a terrible season, so SLB and DE could be somewhat of a need..


                        I do think DE is becomming a need again. I just think at 243 lbs and with his ability to play as a blitzer and as a guy who can drop back into coverage(a little) he is going to be rated higher as a 34 OLB than he will for any position in a 43 defense.

                        Dion is clearly at his best when moving forward, similar to Kiwi. But we cannot blitz a LB if w cannot cover and that has been our problem so far this year. Kiwi has had very few blitz opportunities and hasnt even been on the field that much because we have been forced into the nickle.

                        For example, I think 34 teams will have Jordan rated slightly higher, perhaps as a mid 1st round prospect and 43 teams will have him as a late 1st round pick, that would greatly increase his chances of being picked by a 34 team. It isnt that I dont like him for us. I just think he fits a 34 team's need more than a 43 team. Furthermore, a weakside 34 backer is an impact, every down position in a 34 defense. The strongside backer in the 43 defense is seeing the field less and less these days because of all the nickle and dime packages defenses are being forced to run.

                        Lastly, I would say that we need a defensive end capable of playing the left side, which is most often the strong side. JPP is most natural at the RDE(but is versatile enough to play anywhere) and Tuck plays the LDE. We need a guy who can help spell Tuck and I do not think that Jordan, at 243 lbs, can play LDE until he gains a serious amount of strength and size. Ideally, he needs to be in that 270+ range to play that position. Gaining 30 lbs is not unheard of in the NFL but ithere is always risk associated with it. Will he be able to keep his impressive burst at that weight?
                        Last edited by BlueSanta; 10-04-2012, 07:11 PM.
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                        • Sportzfan I know your a big Notre Dame fan Ive been watching them the last couple day that defense is really really good. They have a bunch of future high draft picks

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                          • Thank u lord that we did not draft Bobbie Massie! HE is utterly pathetic! I have never seen a worse performance by a T in my entire life of watching football!! He makes Guy Whimper look like Jake Long! I 100pct understand why he fell in the draft... Hes lazy as a sloth and has absoulutley zero flexibility.. I'm trying to be nice!!!

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                            • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                              Thank u lord that we did not draft Bobbie Massie! HE is utterly pathetic! I have never seen a worse performance by a T in my entire life of watching football!! He makes Guy Whimper look like Jake Long! I 100pct understand why he fell in the draft... Hes lazy as a sloth and has absoulutley zero flexibility.. I'm trying to be nice!!!
                              I liked em 2.. I have no problem admitting i was wrong and i was wrong about bobbie massie.. U aren't good if u su-ck like he did today.. Theres no hope for u...

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                              • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                                I liked em 2.. I have no problem admitting i was wrong and i was wrong about bobbie massie.. U aren't good if u su-ck like he did today.. Theres no hope for u...
                                Hahaha you're quoting yourself now. I think the boards are getting to you.

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