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  • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    they all got fine measurables.. Nothing at all wrong with Minter, Mautis, Te'o's, Nico Johnson, Bostic, or Red****s measurables.. Arthur Brown is a sick MLB, but hes to light and will probably move to Weakside as a pro...

    I think you make a very good point about MLB this year. Right now there may only be 1, possibly 2, guys who are 1st rounders. I think the 2nd -3rd rounds are going to have a LOT of them tho. It really is the best response to the people suggesting we take 1 in the 1st round.
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    • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
      I think you make a very good point about MLB this year. Right now there may only be 1, possibly 2, guys who are 1st rounders. I think the 2nd -3rd rounds are going to have a LOT of them tho. It really is the best response to the people suggesting we take 1 in the 1st round.
      thank u sir.. Ya, no way we go MLB in RD 1, but i'd certainly like to get one of those guys in RD 2 or 3, for sure.. I mean, if a great value like for example Brennan Williams or even a Robert Lester drops to late RD 2 or even a Zach Ertz, then maybe we do that, and wait till rd 3, to scoop up a Nico Johnson or Kevin Red**** or something like that.. I just hope we get one of the MLB's out there this yr.. Its rare theres so many quality MLB's in the same draft..

      I woulden't be against drafting CJ MOSLEY OLB BAMA in RD 1, and going MLB in RD 2or 3 either ... I don't mind double dipping for a unit if it really upgrades that unit and seems to settle it for a long time... Mosley and Mauti would really upgrade our LB unit in one single draft... I like CJ MOSLEY alot..

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      • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
        I think you make a very good point about MLB this year. Right now there may only be 1, possibly 2, guys who are 1st rounders. I think the 2nd -3rd rounds are going to have a LOT of them tho. It really is the best response to the people suggesting we take 1 in the 1st round.
        I think either Te'o or minter would make instant impacts on this defense. Those are the only two 1st round MLB 's I see

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        • I thinks this is going to be the tough Draft to call, there are so many holes to fill, and we can't keep ignoring the O-Line. I definitely feel that CB/S/ and Linebackers need to be addressed.


          Edit. I have a feeling Ertz drops to middle to late 2nd round, Because of Nunez. He should have way more yards than he has right now, some of those passes thrown his way are like a flock of ducks.
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          • Disagree about nothing wrong with Minters measurables. He's got to be 5'11 at most.

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            • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              Disagree about nothing wrong with Minters measurables. He's got to be 5'11 at most.
              ya but really who cares? Guys who are 6ft or 6ft 1in or whatever could very well have bigger heads or whatever.. If hes got solid arm length, then i could care less if hes 5ft 11in.. Although, i still think hes at least 6ft 240plus lbs.. Hes a enforcer! It'd be great if teams let em slide because of a inch or 2, and we scooped em up for there stupidiity. Hes gonna be a baller!

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              • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                ya but really who cares? Guys who are 6ft or 6ft 1in or whatever could very well have bigger heads or whatever.. If hes got solid arm length, then i could care less if hes 5ft 11in.. Although, i still think hes at least 6ft 240plus lbs.. Hes a enforcer! It'd be great if teams let em slide because of a inch or 2, and we scooped em up for there stupidiity. Hes gonna be a baller!
                They got him at 6'1 245. I think he's 5'11 240. He can put on 10-15 pounds and not lose much Speed. I think he runs a 4.6-4.65 40

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                • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                  They got him at 6'1 245. I think he's 5'11 240. He can put on 10-15 pounds and not lose much Speed. I think he runs a 4.6-4.65 40
                  5'11 is tiny for a middle linebacker. That's part of the reason Greg jones struggled.

                  I don't think Minter has extra length arms either. He really looks like a fullback playing defense to me.

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                  • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                    They got him at 6'1 245. I think he's 5'11 240. He can put on 10-15 pounds and not lose much Speed. I think he runs a 4.6-4.65 40
                    In truth we dont know what he is right now, but for arguments sake,lets assume the rumors are true and he is 5' 11" and not 6'1. That really does matter. The primary reason is not because he can play MLB, but because he cannot be an every down player. At 5'11 he would not be of the 2 LBs who stays in on nickle plays because he would end up with the Occasional responsibility of covering a TE, something he would be ill equipped to do.

                    Since defenses in the NFL are in the nickle now over 60% of the time, his height will matter a great deal.
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                    • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      Disagree about nothing wrong with Minters measurables. He's got to be 5'11 at most.
                      That is what I see him at too from television comparisons...maybe 6' but I keep reading different places 6'1" and even on the LSU site 6'2". Probably won't know for sure until the Combine.

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                      • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                        They got him at 6'1 245. I think he's 5'11 240. He can put on 10-15 pounds and not lose much Speed. I think he runs a 4.6-4.65 40
                        ya, i don't know if weighing in at 255lbs and not being 6ft is a good thing or not? I like his weight at his height.. He seems to move around just fine and has enough meat to really lay the wood and work through traffic to get to ball carriers and behind the line.. I'm completely sold on Minter..

                        Hes one of my fave prospects this yr.. I think hes a NFL starter for a long time to come...

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                        • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                          5'11 is tiny for a middle linebacker. That's part of the reason Greg jones struggled.

                          I don't think Minter has extra length arms either. He really looks like a fullback playing defense to me.
                          Greg Jones had really short arms, and i don't think he moved around as well as Minter.. Minter carries his weight really well and moves around fairly gracefully.. He seems more athletic then Greg Jones..

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                          • Anyone see the yr's Earl Thomas and Akeem Ayers are having this yr? Ayers is on pace for 133tackles 6sacks 8Pass defended 6TFL.. Straight beast! Loved Earl and Akeem coming out! Both of em are turning into dynamite players...

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                            • Originally posted by Rat_bastich View Post
                              That is what I see him at too from television comparisons...maybe 6' but I keep reading different places 6'1" and even on the LSU site 6'2". Probably won't know for sure until the Combine.
                              1 thing LSU measurements are consistently overblown. I do agree he looks a little stubby like Jones but he is much more fluid then Greg Jones.
                              U guys think Greg Jones will be brought back to compete in camp in 2013 when rosters expand. He made it to final cuts.
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                              • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                                Anyone see the yr's Earl Thomas and Akeem Ayers are having this yr? Ayers is on pace for 133tackles 6sacks 8Pass defended 6TFL.. Straight beast! Loved Earl and Akeem coming out! Both of em are turning into dynamite players...
                                I barely ever see Ayers play. Titans are just not a team I chose to watch. Earl Thomas has been very good but the Seahawks do employ him in a perfect fitting role , deep Cover 1. As good as he is playing the pass ,He struggles playing the run. The Seahawks combat this problem with Kam Chancelor who is an elite run defender. I love when teams get it when building their defense. The Seahawks got 2 guys that compliment each other perfectly.
                                Last edited by Redeyejedi; 11-10-2012, 07:38 AM.

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