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  • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
    I like the 1st 3 tho I am not sold yet on Fauria as a capable blocker, he plays so tall and needs to add some bulk. He is a good red zone TE tho.

    The 1 guy you list who I do not like, not so much because he isnt a good player but beause he isnt a good fit, is Nigel Malone. He is gonna be a slot guy in the NFL, and we have 1 of those already in Hosely.

    I think we need a big physical outside CB type like Rhodes, Milliner, Banks, Amerson , Poyner or even a Logan Ryan. CWeb has been 1 of the worst performing Cbs in the NFL this year. We cannot wait to replace him, especially at his pricetag. Expensive and Bad is not a good combination.
    Ya, i here ya about Nigel Malone.. I just like em so much, it was hard for me not to put em in there at that point in the mock.. I thought of the same thing though..lol

    As far as FAURIA, i think hes a OK blocker now, and certainly can get alittle bit better in that area, which would make em a solid blocker.. He dosen't suck at blocking or anything.. Just needs to get alittle better... Offensively, hes dynamite, and i've seen him make a few plays u would think a white guy(sorry to my fellow white dudes..lol) his size would not be able to make, athletically anyways.. I think theres a huge dropoff after Fauria at the TE positon this yr.

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    • Speaking of Joseph Fauria.. Hes on Walt Footballs Draft Stock UP/DOWN list this wk, as being UP.. A bunch of players i really like are on there, that include CJ Mosley, Kawaan Short, and of course, Joseph Fauria...

      Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA
      The Bruins senior tight end has been a deadly red-zone weapon this season and proved that again versus the Cougars. Fauria caught his ninth touchdown of the year with a beautiful red-zone route. He lined up in the slot and went straight off the snap for a few yards before jab stepping to the outside and slanting to the deep middle of the end zone. It was an easy nine-yard touchdown catch for Fauria.

      The senior later drew a pass interference in the end zone on a fade route. The 6-foot-7 tight end had a mismatch with a short cornerback, and all the defender could do was pull Fauria to the ground to avoid giving up a touchdown.

      Fauria made a great catch to set up another score. He went over a defensive back for a jump ball to make a tough reception. The defensive back tipped the pass, but Fauria controlled the ball as he landed on his back. The gain went for 30 yards to the Washington State 10-yard line and set up a UCLA touchdown on the next play. Fauria totaled 70 yards and a touchdown on four receptions. He had three plays that directly led to 21 points for the Bruins.

      Fauria has 31 receptions for 417 yards and nine scores in 2012. He has improved as a blocker to become a more well-rounded tight end. Fauria looks like a nice value pick after the first round of the 2013 NFL Draft. This performance against the Cougars will help his efforts to be a second-day selection.

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      • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post

        Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA
        The Bruins senior tight end has been a deadly red-zone weapon this season and proved that again versus the Cougars. Fauria caught his ninth touchdown of the year with a beautiful red-zone route. He lined up in the slot and went straight off the snap for a few yards before jab stepping to the outside and slanting to the deep middle of the end zone. It was an easy nine-yard touchdown catch for Fauria.
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        I am not against him, I do see the promise and I like his skillset . I just have 2 concerns he plays very very tall when blocking. and 2) His build concerns me. He is tall(a good thing)but his legs appear to be about 10 feet long. I worry about his potential for injuries as an end line TE.

        I think 3rd round is a fair rating for him though.
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        • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
          I am not against him, I do see the promise and I like his skillset . I just have 2 concerns he plays very very tall when blocking. and 2) His build concerns me. He is tall(a good thing)but his legs appear to be about 10 feet long. I worry about his potential for injuries as an end line TE.

          I think 3rd round is a fair rating for him though.
          I think your concerns are valid.

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          • Originally posted by Rat_bastich View Post
            While he isn't a gunslinger by any means, he ha been looking pretty good.
            Yep, Golson is definitely game and fun to watch. I think durability is a concern w/ him though due to his size but he's a tough kid. Just my opinion but he's one of those guys who will have a great college career but won't quite cut it in the NFL.

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            • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
              Ya ELAM could return, but if he dosen't i like him alot as well.. I think ur underestimating Rambo like alot of people are..
              I'm not underestimating him I just think Tony Jefferson is a better prospect that's all. There seems to be a lot of big, physical safeties in this years draft and I'd love for the Giants to grab one in the first 3 rounds.

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              • The San Jose State QB David Fales is really good. Will shoot up draft boards. Clean Mechanics, Nice short and intermediate accuracy, Very good route anticipation, Havent seen enough deep balls from him but the 2 games we have on Draftbreakdown Im very impressed

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                • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                  I am not against him, I do see the promise and I like his skillset . I just have 2 concerns he plays very very tall when blocking. and 2) His build concerns me. He is tall(a good thing)but his legs appear to be about 10 feet long. I worry about his potential for injuries as an end line TE.

                  I think 3rd round is a fair rating for him though.
                  nah man, i wasen't posting the walt football stuff because of what u said, just becasue he was a guy that i just mocked to us, and it had some info on em is all..

                  Either way, i think every prospect has something or another wrong with em, i try to not get caught up in the leg length, and if a guys a half inch shorter then he should be..etc Its just not my thing.. I let u guys worry about that stuff..

                  Hence why hes not a 1st or early 2nd rd prospect.. Ur obviously gonna have a flaw or 2 with a guy ur getting in the lateish 3rd rd... I think ELI would have a field Day with Fauria...

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                  • It's sad cause I think T.Eifert would be a beast on this team. He's like a Witten/(prime)shockey combination. Kid gets up field and blocks, pushes guys back they have him at 6'6 251 I think hes 6'3-6'4, 245. whats the chances of this team taking him in the first and actually utilizing him? I have always felt eli needs a safety measure over the middle, people thought bennett was going to be that safe option; nothing against him but he just looks lethargic out there sometimes, now we find out he's been playing hurt. sigh*

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                    • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                      It's sad cause I think T.Eifert would be a beast on this team. He's like a Witten/(prime)shockey combination. Kid gets up field and blocks, pushes guys back they have him at 6'6 251 I think hes 6'3-6'4, 245. whats the chances of this team taking him in the first and actually utilizing him? I have always felt eli needs a safety measure over the middle, people thought bennett was going to be that safe option; nothing against him but he just looks lethargic out there sometimes, now we find out he's been playing hurt. sigh*
                      I would love a primetime TE on this team. But in truth I dont see us spending a 1st rounder to get him because frankly, we dont use a TE enough to warrant it. Especially when you consider how many holes we have on defense. That makes it hard to spend a 1st rounder on a guy who plays only some downs.
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                      • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                        I would love a primetime TE on this team. But in truth I dont see us spending a 1st rounder to get him because frankly, we dont use a TE enough to warrant it. Especially when you consider how many holes we have on defense. That makes it hard to spend a 1st rounder on a guy who plays only some downs.
                        I hear ya. I think if we had a Line that didn't need help, we would use the TE a little more. Eifert is more than just a receiving TE, he is a great inline blocker as well. Just want to see an extra dimension in this offense, we complain about the down the field passes on 3rd and 2; A prime time TE like you said would solve most of those issues.

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                        • I still disagree with the idea that the giants offense doesnt utilitze a TE.

                          I think if Bennett was resigned and stayed healthy next season he would be well over 1k yards.

                          The giants constantly are looking to draft athletic pass catching TEs, Boss, Shockey, Beckum, Robinson, etc.

                          Apart from Shockey, none of those guys have done much in their first year with the team, and Gilbride wasent there for Shockeys first two seasons, so it seems like any TE on the team takes at least a season to really understand Gilbrides system.

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                          • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                            I still disagree with the idea that the giants offense doesnt utilitze a TE.

                            I think if Bennett was resigned and stayed healthy next season he would be well over 1k yards.

                            The giants constantly are looking to draft athletic pass catching TEs, Boss, Shockey, Beckum, Robinson, etc.

                            Apart from Shockey, none of those guys have done much in their first year with the team, and Gilbride wasent there for Shockeys first two seasons, so it seems like any TE on the team takes at least a season to really understand Gilbrides system.
                            I've had this argument on this board since last year, you put a talented TE that can block the way thr coaches want and
                            an be receiving threat. Watch eli stats soar; give Eli now a non whining shockey in his prime.and we will not have to force throws down the field on 3rd down.
                            Eifert is the overall package, the knock on fleener last year was his blocking even though we have one of the best TE coaches. Eifert is a blocker with elite receiving ability. He is the only TE worth a first round grade to me 20-25th pick is where i would put him.

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                            • Round 1 – Sheldon Richardson DT, missouri

                              Round 2 – David Amerson CB, NC state

                              Round 3 – Bacarri Rambo S, Georgia

                              Round 4 - Brennan Williams OT NC

                              Round 5 - Jonotthan Harrison C, Florida

                              Round 6 - Philip Lutzenkirchen TE, Aurburn

                              Round 7 - Tyrann Mathieu S, LSU

                              Not to good at making mocks this time of the year, so i played it kind of safe. Lutzenkirchen was projected 2-3 round a year ago but due to his injury I think would fall; unless bill belicheck and the Pats drafts 3 TE in the first 3 rounds. I have Mathieu going UDFA due to his off the field issues, If he does, expect Jerry to swipe him early. He is too risky for even a 7th round pick, which is why I would take him there. I believe coughlin could get this kid back on track.

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                              • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                                I've had this argument on this board since last year, you put a talented TE that can block the way thr coaches want and
                                an be receiving threat. Watch eli stats soar; give Eli now a non whining shockey in his prime.and we will not have to force throws down the field on 3rd down.
                                Eifert is the overall package, the knock on fleener last year was his blocking even though we have one of the best TE coaches. Eifert is a blocker with elite receiving ability. He is the only TE worth a first round grade to me 20-25th pick is where i would put him.
                                Here's what Mcshay had to say about the TE class:

                                "San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (79) doesn't get much national love, but West Coast NFL scouts have been whispering about the athletic pass-catching tight end.


                                Escobar (6-5, 255) leads the team with 35 catches for 483 yards and five touchdowns. He's not a senior and could very well return to SDSU for another season, but should he leave early, Escobar could be one of five non-senior tight ends selected in the first three rounds. Here are the top five draft-eligible players on the board, all of whom are non-seniors.

                                1. Zach Ertz, Stanford (6-6, 249; 89)
                                2. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame (6-6, 250; 88)
                                3. Escobar
                                4. Dion Sims, Michigan State (6-5, 276; 78)
                                5.Levine Toilolo, Stanford (6-8, 263; 76)

                                I've heard no buzz about Ertz staying or going, but most scouts I've talked to have a strong feeling that Eifert is leaning heavily toward leaving. If both declare for the draft, it will be interesting to see who comes off the board first, because teams seem to be split on who is the better overall prospect.
                                For the record, the highest-rated senior tight end on our board right now is Auburn's Philip Lutzenkirchen, who is rated just slightly ahead of Joseph Fauria (UCLA) and Jake Stoneburner (Ohio State). That trio will be jockeying for position in the middle rounds."

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