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  • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Have u guys seen some of these unmovable contracts the Giants have on this team.We r Fd for real next season. Webster would be a cap hit of 10 million if we cut him, Diehl 7,75 million. These guys suck and we cant get rid of them. I doubt they make the playoffs next year
    I did not know that, especially regarding Cweb.


    Edit: I just reviewed his contract and I dont see it. How would his cap hit be so high? Nor do I see it in Diehls contract.
    Last edited by BlueSanta; 11-23-2012, 10:58 AM.
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    • I was looking at Kent St games and this guy caught my eye

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      • Redeye do you have any Shamarko thomas?...He lacks prototypical size, but the guys a freak athlete who reportedly runs a 4.2 40 and hits like a mack truck...Depending what the Giants do with Rolle and Phillips in the offseason I would love the Giants to take this guy in the 4th round range if he's still available.

        For my early mock I'm going to give the Giants
        1. Manti teo- Depending how the Giants finish it's conceivable we could be picking mid 1st and I think thats about where Teo should go
        2. OT Brennan Williams- first round talent who suffered a torn labrum and will probably slide some. Could be a day 1 starter at RT for us though
        3. DE Brandon Jenkins- Pass rush specialist who'd be a solid replacement for Osi
        4. S Shamarko Thomas- Baby Bob Sanders
        5. CB Nigel Malone- IS NYCsportsfan's sleeper CB and the guys right more often then not, so thats good enough for me
        6. TE Travis Kelce- Great size 6'6 260, solid production 472 yards 4 TD's and reportedly runs around a 4.5ish 40
        7. RB Rex Burkhead- Giants haven't had a white RB since Keith Elias, I think we're do for another one...His hard nose style would be a nice compliment to Wilson down the line
        Last edited by juice33s; 11-23-2012, 04:25 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
          I was looking at Kent St games and this guy caught my eye

          Its vs crappy competition, but still the is quite impressive
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          • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
            I did not know that, especially regarding Cweb.


            Edit: I just reviewed his contract and I dont see it. How would his cap hit be so high? Nor do I see it in Diehls contract.
            Thats what i though as well but I dont know the restructure terms from both of those guys frtom this season.
            Last edited by Redeyejedi; 11-23-2012, 07:11 PM.

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            • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
              Redeye do you have any Shamarko thomas?...He lacks prototypical size, but the guys a freak athlete who reportedly runs a 4.2 40 and hits like a mack truck...Depending what the Giants do with Rolle and Phillips in the offseason I would love the Giants to take this guy in the 4th round range if he's still available.

              For my early mock I'm going to give the Giants
              1. Manti teo- Depending how the Giants finish it's conceivable we could be picking mid 1st and I think thats about where Teo should go
              2. OT Brennan Williams- first round talent who suffered a torn labrum and will probably slide some. Could be a day 1 starter at RT for us though
              3. DE Brandon Jenkins- Pass rush specialist who'd be a solid replacement for Osi
              4. S Shamarko Thomas- Baby Bob Sanders
              5. CB Nigel Malone- IS NYCsportsfan's sleeper CB and the guys right more often then not, so thats good enough for me
              6. TE Travis Kelce- Great size 6'6 260, solid production 472 yards 4 TD's and reportedly runs around a 4.5ish 40
              7. RB Rex Burkhead- Giants haven't had a white RB since Keith Elias, I think we're do for another one...His hard nose style would be a nice compliment to Wilson down the line
              yeah I can do that

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              • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                yeah I can do that
                I like the players. I need to know more about the Labrum tear on Williams tho . That is a common injury but can be a silent career killer for linemen depending on how severe a tear it was. I can refer people to how much that injury has pestered Justin Tuck in recent years but the best example of how much it can do is Andrew Datko, a tackle out of FSU who was once thought of as a possible 1st round talent. A badly torn labrum had him drafted in the 7th and now has him sitting on the Packers practice squad.


                Unfortunatly, as fans we dont see the doc reports from the combine so we wont really know how badly he was injured. But hopefully the Giants do. If the problem is resolved, he is a fine prospect. If not, I would stay away, that is an injury that can plague a career for an olineman.
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                • From the little I've seen shamarko play, I don't think size is an issue. He's extremely physical. His instincts are questionable and he bites on everything. Though Will Hill was much the same. I do like shamarko. Get him to play a little more disciplined and he can be a nice player in the secondary. He would be a tremendous ST player as well with his speed and willingness to throw his body around

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                  • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    From the little I've seen shamarko play, I don't think size is an issue. He's extremely physical. His instincts are questionable and he bites on everything. Though Will Hill was much the same. I do like shamarko. Get him to play a little more disciplined and he can be a nice player in the secondary. He would be a tremendous ST player as well with his speed and willingness to throw his body around
                    I love em.. Talked about em in this very thread a few times.. A very good, underrated player.. I see him being similar to Tavon Wilson fo last yr, as a guy who goes alot higher then most expect.(albeit maybe not 2nd rd like Wilson)..

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                    • Welp, my man Baccari Rambo yet again makes a huge splash play for GA.. Ga Tech was about to score on a long run play and a few Bulldogs converged at about the 4 yrd line and the Ga Tech runners momentum was moving em toward the endzone and Rambo just stole the ball from him and then returned it 46yrds in the other direction.. So easy to see hes gonna fly up draft boards.. Its why i have em as the top S in this class..

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                      • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                        Welp, my man Baccari Rambo yet again makes a huge splash play for GA.. Ga Tech was about to score on a long run play and a few Bulldogs converged at about the 4 yrd line and the Ga Tech runners momentum was moving em toward the endzone and Rambo just stole the ball from him and then returned it 46yrds in the other direction.. So easy to see hes gonna fly up draft boards.. Its why i have em as the top S in this class..
                        Its funny how things change. Prior to the season people talked about TJ MacDonald and K Vaccaro. Then they played football and people remembered how good the SEC is. Vaccaro and MAcdonald may both be below Rambo and Elam b4 all is said and done.
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                        • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                          Its funny how things change. Prior to the season people talked about TJ MacDonald and K Vaccaro. Then they played football and people remembered how good the SEC is. Vaccaro and MAcdonald may both be below Rambo and Elam b4 all is said and done.
                          Mcdonald has really fallen off, but Vaccaro is still going in 2nd rd, which is about where people thought anyhow.. He hasent been terrible this yr, just not quite as good as advertised.. I mean, GENO SMITH and CO made em look bad, but they made Jefferson look terrible as well. Shoot, Jefferson had one of the worst missed tackles i'd ever seen against W.VA..

                          McDonald has just been very unimpressive as a whole.. He looks stiff and very beatable through the air, almost like Taylor Mays like..

                          As far as Baccari Rambo, i should of stuck to my own way of thinking about em.. I let other people(draft gurus and what not) decide that i liked em a little more then he was good.. Then i watched em play his first couple wk's back, and i was like "screw this", hes fantastic! Hes a playmaker, who can make the hard jarring hit, and he can cover.. Hes a first rd talent, like i said a couple wks ago.. He might not go int he first, but anyone who has em in late rd 3 still, better update there rankings...lol

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                          • what happened to Teddy Bridgewater? Jesus, he su-cks now...

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                            • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                              what happened to Teddy Bridgewater? Jesus, he su-cks now...
                              Uconn beat the snot out of him, sacked him like 8 times, he couldnt use his left hand after halftime, then could barely walk in overtime.

                              Uconn has a very good defense too, multiple NFL talent players.

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                              • I still have to say that as far as plays in big games, Elam has been the best safety in the country this year. I know some question his measurables, but you just cant question his play.

                                Another big game performance for Bjorn Werner. I cant imagine him falling out of the top 15 now.
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