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  • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
    Reid and Minter will be there
    I don't know about Reid? That is certainly debatable, and Minter is rising, as i've said he should be for wks, as i seen ROb Rang got em in the 1st rd now.. U guy sleep on minter, but the guy is increidble.. Hes a indimidator, and somewhat of a playmaker... He really moves around the field at ease, and seems to rack up tackles every game, and is no slouch in coverege and he can rush the passer on ocasion.. I honestly think hes closer to 6ft 1in, then the 5ft 11in, some have speculated.. Shoot, i've seen him listed at 6ft 2in in more then 1 site... I'd be shocked if hes on the board after Bobby Wagner went last yr, which is after the 1st, but hes a better prospect, so he could go anywhere before Bobby Wagner, even the late 1st... And i loved Bobby Wagner!!(whos doing really well, might i add)...

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    • Jordan Hill made it into Walts Stock UP this wk which came out this morning.. I've mocked em a few times to us, most recently this wk, and io'm telling u, this kid will help our pass rush immensley.. U put Linval, Hill, and JPP on 3/4 of ur 4/3 makeup, and ur on 2 something...


      Jordan Hill, DT, Penn State
      Hill took over and dominated his final collegiate game. The Wisconsin Badgers were the victim as Hill killed them as a pass-rusher while also stuffing a plethora of runs at the line of scrimmage. He was moving well around the line of scrimmage all night and not giving up any ground.

      Hill made a plethora of tackles in the ground game. He picked up his first sack after starting to his left before shedding center Travis Frederick to cut back to the right and tackle the quarterback.

      In crunch time late in the fourth quarter, Hill came up with a big sack when the Badgers were driving and trying to tie the game. Hill slipped past the guard and exploded down the pocket to flatten Phillips for his second sack. Hill added another tackle of Montee Ball on first-and-goal. Hill used a swim move on third-and-goal to get by Travis Frederick and tackle Ball for a loss of a couple of yards.

      Aside from his sacks, Hill got a number of punishing hits on quarterback Curt Phillips just after he threw the ball. Hill totaled 12 tackles, three tackles for a loss and two sacks versus Wisconsin. The 6-foot-1, 292-pounder used his final game to show NFL teams that he is worthy of a second-day pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. Hill totaled 64 tackles, 8.5 tackles for a loss, one interception, 4.5 sacks and a forced fumble in 2012.

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      • Joseph Fauria had another marvelous game albeit in a losing effort.. He scored yet again, and put up WR type stat line yet again.. At 4catches 61yrds 1td vs a super tough stanford D... Hes scored in 7outta8 games, and i will trust 100pct that our coaches can get maximum potential outta his 6ft 7in 255lb frame towards becoming a solid NFL blocker.. If we need a TE or go a diffrent direction in 1st rd, i'd consider Fauria in 2nd or 3rd... Hes really good..

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        • Been gone for the Thanksgiving week so I apologize in advance if it has already been noticed but Ansah seems to have found himself in the late 1st for a few mocks now.

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          • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
            I don't know about Reid? That is certainly debatable, and Minter is rising, as i've said he should be for wks, as i seen ROb Rang got em in the 1st rd now.. U guy sleep on minter, but the guy is increidble.. Hes a indimidator, and somewhat of a playmaker... He really moves around the field at ease, and seems to rack up tackles every game, and is no slouch in coverege and he can rush the passer on ocasion.. I honestly think hes closer to 6ft 1in, then the 5ft 11in, some have speculated.. Shoot, i've seen him listed at 6ft 2in in more then 1 site... I'd be shocked if hes on the board after Bobby Wagner went last yr, which is after the 1st, but hes a better prospect, so he could go anywhere before Bobby Wagner, even the late 1st... And i loved Bobby Wagner!!(whos doing really well, might i add)...
            Neither of these guys are top 20 picks, so for rainierjef to feel they wouldn't be there in the late 20's I thought was a little assumptious.

            Both Reid and Minter play postions where to be high 1st round picks you really have to be a.) a special height/weight/speed specimen and b) a true game changer on the field, neither guy fits the bill in both categories.

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            • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
              Been gone for the Thanksgiving week so I apologize in advance if it has already been noticed but Ansah seems to have found himself in the late 1st for a few mocks now.
              The more I think about it, the more I think thats the guy the Giants will take if he's available. Fits the Giants to a T in what he brings physically and in terms of versatillity where he can play all over the Dline

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              • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                With his size and skill, he should have half a dozen TD's... I mean, even Kevin Boss, a 5th rd pick outta W.oregon whos done nothing since leaving NY, was a greater weapon to us, especially in the redzone..
                What are you talking about? Bennett has 39 reception ins 11 games. In Boss' best year he had 42 for the entire season. How was he a better weapon? Furthermore Bennett is a better edge blocker, which is the primary function of the TE in this offense. Boss was a decent TE, but lets not turn him into something he was not. We dont use Bennett as a deep threat because we have guys better suited for it. In 2009, which was Boss' best year, and a year we passed the ball a ton because of our large point defecits, we lacked a deep threat. We have Cruz to pick apart the deep middle of the field now.

                Eiferts a good prospect , but I am willing to give Bennett more credit than others even if just for the superb job blocking he has done. We have actually been able to get the edge on defenses this year in the run game. That just did not happen last year as Ballard was a terrible seal blocker. We have also let Bennet Block DE's 1v1 and he has been successful at times, that is something we never did in the past.

                You want a reason our run game is improved this year over last? Well Bennett is a large part of that. His edge blocking is very good.
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                • Tank Carradine tore his ACL....Went from a possible 1st round pick to imo maybe a 3rd at best

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                  • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                    Neither of these guys are top 20 picks, so for rainierjef to feel they wouldn't be there in the late 20's I thought was a little assumptious.

                    Both Reid and Minter play postions where to be high 1st round picks you really have to be a.) a special height/weight/speed specimen and b) a true game changer on the field, neither guy fits the bill in both categories.
                    As far as minter goes, He's been rising for some time now al he needs to do is show and prove at the combine and I honeslty don't see him past 20. Surely a 3-4 team or a 4-3 team will take him after T'eo, same for Reid. Mark Barron went 7th a year ago, ( I am not saying reid is a better prospect than barron was coming out ) but teams are always looking for that guy to be the play making last line of defense in a passing league. I also don't see him going past 20. I think we are drafting mid to late 20's so you could be right, we will see.

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                    • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                      Tank Carradine tore his ACL....Went from a possible 1st round pick to imo maybe a 3rd at best
                      3rd is generous, depending on the severity of the tear and any pertinent history, he could slide farther than that.

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                      • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                        Joseph Fauria had another marvelous game albeit in a losing effort.. He scored yet again, and put up WR type stat line yet again.. At 4catches 61yrds 1td vs a super tough stanford D... Hes scored in 7outta8 games, and i will trust 100pct that our coaches can get maximum potential outta his 6ft 7in 255lb frame towards becoming a solid NFL blocker.. If we need a TE or go a diffrent direction in 1st rd, i'd consider Fauria in 2nd or 3rd... Hes really good..
                        You would take fauria in the first? I have seen limited tape on him, only because i have been bias and following Eifert like a hawk. How is his blocking, cause right now i have Eifert as the most improved blocking TE coming out this year followed by Toilolo and Ertz.

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                        • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                          You would take fauria in the first? I have seen limited tape on him, only because i have been bias and following Eifert like a hawk. How is his blocking, cause right now i have Eifert as the most improved blocking TE coming out this year followed by Toilolo and Ertz.
                          No He isnt a 1st round talent. He is a decent prospect tho. I think he might still be growing into his long frame as well. I read 1 scouting report that said he might actually be over 6'8"

                          I think he is a very good red zone target and would likely go in the 3rd round area. NYC and I discussed him a couple pages back. He has a couple concerns, but also has some nice upside.
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                          • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                            Tank Carradine tore his ACL....Went from a possible 1st round pick to imo maybe a 3rd at best
                            I actually love him as a prospect, but I always questioned him as 1st round talent mostly because he accomplished his good numbers vs 1 on 1 situations. Werner got way more attention in the form of chip blocks and added TEs to his side than Tank did. Still, Tank took advantage of it and will be a very good DE. He is very stout at the point of attack too. 1 strong dude.
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                            • Wouldnt mind taking Tank in the mid rounds, giants have the depth to IR him for the year.

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                              • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                                Neither of these guys are top 20 picks, so for rainierjef to feel they wouldn't be there in the late 20's I thought was a little assumptious.

                                Both Reid and Minter play postions where to be high 1st round picks you really have to be a.) a special height/weight/speed specimen and b) a true game changer on the field, neither guy fits the bill in both categories.
                                Eric Reid could easily end up going in the top 20-25 picks.. Minter most likely would just sneak into RD 1, but its 100pct a possibility, especially the way hes played the past several wks, and all season for that matter.. Hes been a consistent force all yr long, and people are noticing.. I would be more suprirsed if he goes past the first 5 picks in the 2nd rd, then if hes still on the board..

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