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  • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
    Those kids always worry me because there could be so many reasons for his lack of production. Is it a lack of motor? Bad coaching? Not being properly used for what his skillset offers? It's one thing to be an athletic freak and enter the league unpolished but at least show some good tape every now and then. Smells like a Dontari Poe scenario but on a smaller scale.
    I would not mind taking Datone Jones or Goodman in the 3rd rd.. I think both lack a bit of pass rush consistency, but will stack up well against the run, get at least averege pass rush, while helping wear down a oline with there physical style of play... Both would make good replacements for TUck, i believe..

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    • Man, a guy i love Brian Winters OT Kent St comes in at only 6ft 3in with short arms at 32in. Hes gonna have to move inside to G and play T on emergency basis only, which will hurt his stock a tad, i would imagine..


      I really like that Lane Johnson.. All the measurables, slick pass blocker, and good use of hands... Hes growing on me, but he'll be a 1st rd pick i believe, when all said and done.. Eric Fishers going in the top 15, i will gurantee it.. Hes really good.. Dallas Thomas has shorter arms then i expected as well, which might hurt his stock a tad...

      A sleeper G prospect that did pretty good in weigh ins was JC TRETTER G CORNELL.. Came in at 6ft 3in over 300lbs, and even though has a tad short arms, hes a athletic former TE, with a good bloodline and reminds me of a GIANTS type player..

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      • Ryan Swope had smallest hands of any player..

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        • Did Larry Warford, G, Kentucky slim down? They have him at 333 at the weigh in for the Senior Bowl while most projections at him around the 345 range. I would say 315-330 is the ideal weight to appeal to the majority of teams in the NFL because not all GMs like the bigger OL prospects.

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          • 3 Corner's we've talked about already looking good in 1v1's at the senior bowl (Poyer, Trufant and Jamar Taylor)...Mayock seems to like Jordan Poyer alot

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            • Poyers a stud, just drew a comparison to Allen Iverson lol...I want that guy

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              • Some standouts in OL DL drills- Okafor, Ficher, brian Winters, Quisenbarry

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                • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                  3 Corner's we've talked about already looking good in 1v1's at the senior bowl (Poyer, Trufant and Jamar Taylor)...Mayock seems to like Jordan Poyer alot
                  Yup, Poyers insane.. I've been extremely high on him for months.. Also have been falling hard for Jamar Taylor.. Redeye just hooked me up with a vid of his against UNLV.. He reminds me of Casey Hayward from last yr, as a CB i thought was way better then rankings and will go up draft boards some, but not enough to what his talent is.. Somones gonna get a steal with him in late 2nd/3rd rd.... Always liked Trufant as well..

                  All 3 of those guys are studs...

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                  • Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                    Some standouts in OL DL drills- Okafor, Ficher, brian Winters, Quisenbarry
                    Brian Winters is really good.. Hes probably a G though, with his weigh in today.. Eric FIsher is the real deal.. No chance he gets by San Diego probably at 12.. At least he shoulden't...

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                    • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                      Brian Winters is really good.. Hes probably a G though, with his weigh in today.. Eric FIsher is the real deal.. No chance he gets by San Diego probably at 12.. At least he shoulden't...
                      could san diego trade up for joeckel? I have this weird feeling.

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                      • Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
                        could san diego trade up for joeckel? I have this weird feeling.
                        I'm sure they could, if they want 2.. Might make sense, with a new coach who needs his QB to revert to old self, so protecting him could be a focal point and worth the risk for SD.. They could offer KC a solid package of picks this yr and maybe a early pick next yr... It could happen... If SD was picking 1st, Joeckl would 100pct be the pick, thats for sure.. They may be happy trying to get Eric Fisher though, whos also a stud, and looked great at Weigh In's today, or even try trading up a handful of picks to get Fisher, insrtead of trading so much to get Joeckl...

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                        • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                          I'm sure they could, if they want 2.. Might make sense, with a new coach who needs his QB to revert to old self, so protecting him could be a focal point and worth the risk for SD.. They could offer KC a solid package of picks this yr and maybe a early pick next yr... It could happen... If SD was picking 1st, Joeckl would 100pct be the pick, thats for sure.. They may be happy trying to get Eric Fisher though, whos also a stud, and looked great at Weigh In's today, or even try trading up a handful of picks to get Fisher, insrtead of trading so much to get Joeckl...
                          I read somewhere that joeckel has problems with DE,,mainly getting pushed around,,,true?

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                          • Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
                            I read somewhere that joeckel has problems with DE,,mainly getting pushed around,,,true?
                            I think hes a stud, personally.. I don't think he has to many problems with DE's, or he woulden't be a possible top pick.. Everyones got weaknesses, but Joeckl can pass block, run block, and has great measurables, seems like a great kid..etc Hes the complete package, and a very safe pick, in my opinion..

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                            • Kevin Red**** is a freaking ox! 6ft 1in 246lber..lol That kids a unit! No wonder he gets all those TFL...

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                              • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                                I think hes a stud, personally.. I don't think he has to many problems with DE's, or he woulden't be a possible top pick.. Everyones got weaknesses, but Joeckl can pass block, run block, and has great measurables, seems like a great kid..etc Hes the complete package, and a very safe pick, in my opinion..
                                agreed

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