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  • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nevada11"]so? he has no gap integrity or discipline. that same TFL he made in the backfield was the same play he bit on that gave LSU's QB a TD

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    I really dont understand what you are saying.

    He shot his gap... which is what he was supposed to do and blew up a play in the backfield. How is that no gap integrity or discipline?

    And coming off the edge, he played the run first in a goalline situation? Thats what hes supposed to do....

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      [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="nevada11"]so? he has no gap integrity or discipline. that same TFL he made in the backfield was the same play he bit on that gave LSU's QB a TD





      [/quote] I really dont understand what you are saying. He shot his gap... which is what he was supposed to do and blew up a play in the backfield. How is that no gap integrity or discipline? And coming off the edge, he played the run first in a goalline situation? Thats what hes supposed to do....[/quote]




      im not talking about that play stupid... im talking about him overall. LSU is having success running right at him.




      coming off the edge playing the run first? thats what hes supposed to do? are you freaking serious? especially against LSU QB the first thing you want to do is stay on the edge and respect his ability to run with the ball... all miller is doing is freelancing and showing a lack of discipline more often than not

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        [quote user="nevada11"]


        im not talking about that play stupid... im talking about him overall. LSU is having success running right at him.[/quote]
        Hes made a couple good plays at the point of attack, hes having some trouble shedding and making the tackle himself though. Hes never really been a stout run defender, improved alot this year however.

        coming off the edge playing the run first? thats what hes supposed to do? are you freaking serious? especially against LSU QB the first thing you want to do is stay on the edge and respect his ability to run with the ball...
        It depends on the play call and the down and distance. You cant tell wether he is "freelancing" or not unless you know the call.

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          Well it was a game before A&M decided to let Tolliver do whatever he wanted. Tolliver hasent done anything all year either, lol.

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            Golden boy patrick peterson has looked bad tonight (by his "shut down corner top 5 pick of the draft" standards). got beat downfield numerous times by a receiver who will get drafted in the 5th round most likely.




            If he gets drafted by dallas i cant wait for nicks to run circles around him HAHA!

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              No way Peterson is still on the board at #9 overall. Heck, he may go #1 overall. With no Luck in the draft, Peterson is the best player.

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                Did not know that Peterson's middle name is De'mon. Strange.

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                  [quote user="slipknottin"]No way Peterson is still on the board at #9 overall. Heck, he may go #1 overall. With no Luck in the draft, Peterson is the best player.[/quote]




                  Um, no. Panthers do not go CB. AJ Green is the best player in this draft now. He has more upside than peterson

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                    [quote user="nevada11"]Um, no. Panthers do not go CB. AJ Green is the best player in this draft now. He has more upside than peterson

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                    Thats possible too, either way, Peterson is a top 5 pick. No way he falls to 9.

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                      [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="nevada11"]so? he has no gap integrity or discipline. that same TFL he made in the backfield was the same play he bit on that gave LSU's QB a TD

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                      I really dont understand what you are saying.

                      He shot his gap... which is what he was supposed to do and blew up a play in the backfield. How is that no gap integrity or discipline?

                      And coming off the edge, he played the run first in a goalline situation? Thats what hes supposed to do....[/quote] Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is... I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying

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                        [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is...* I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying
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                        Yea, i still dont have a good idea of where he goes though. I think hes a first rounder, but is he a top 15 guy? Or does he go one of the last picks of the first?

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                          Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. Way too undersized to be any factor against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team

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                            [quote user="Neverend"]Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. Way too undersized to be any factor against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team[/quote]6-3 240+ is undersized??

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                              [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is... I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying
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                              Yea, i still dont have a good idea of where he goes though. I think hes a first rounder, but is he a top 15 guy? Or does he go one of the last picks of the first?[/quote] thats a good question slip, and as usual, its gonna be extremely fun to see where the stones may drop...

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                                Anyone got thoughts on Temples Muhammad Wilkerson. It sux that Temple missed a bowl game even though they went 8-4 I would of liked to see him one more time. The only game I saw him play was against Penn State and he looked pretty good.They lined him up a lot as a5 tech even 7.He has upside as a pass rusher, is scheme versatile as a 3 or 5 tech. I still think this teamneeds a beast 3 tech. Cantyhas been average and hasno guaranteed money left on his deal. With Coefield a free agent could the Giants cut Canty to keep Barry and go after another 3 tech in the draft. Probably not but I still think the spot needs to be upgraded. Anyone catch any games of him, more then me at least

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