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    [quote user="Neverend"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    ESPN 3 has games but my service provider isnt on there list so I cant watch.




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    I completely forgot about that. I have ESPN 3, maybe now I can re-watch some bowl games, particularly Martez Wilson and Illinois hehe




    but eh, i'm too impatient to skim through a video. i'd rather watch videos of those guys that upload draft players videos on youtube.

    [/quote]Yeah I would love to re-watch some Illinois games they werent a team I got a real good look at. i only watched 2 full Illini games this season. The others were flip backs with Leshoure being the focus. I tend to watch the SEC and ACC more than the other conferences. They are the Top 2 Conferences in terms of producing NFL talent

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      Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus. Im rewatching the LSU Alabama game and while on the stat sheet this didnt look like a great game he was really disruptive. He flashed a wide variety of skill as a 3 tech and 5 tech. He burst throught the line on the inside on many occasions forcing the ball carrier to the outside into the waiting arms of a linebacker. He blew around the corner as a 5 tech forcing Jordan Jefferson to throw the ball away. He really shows an ability to penetrate and could become a dominate 3 tech. He really has a nice jump off the line on the inside.I think he may be a better fit for a 4-3 defense. He does a really nice job keeping himself low. He has a few pass rush moves as well. People seemed to have quieted on him but this guy can really play

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        [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus. [/quote]

        Mayok just moved Dareus ahead of Fairley as his #1 DT.

        And Dareus doesnt have the motor and attitude concerns that Fariley does.

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          [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus. [/quote]

          Mayok just moved Dareus ahead of Fairley as his #1 DT.

          And Dareus doesnt have the motor and attitude concerns that Fariley does.[/quote]

          I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.
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            [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus. [/quote] Mayok just moved Dareus ahead of Fairley as his #1 DT. And Dareus doesnt have the motor and attitude concerns that Fariley does.[/quote]He has new rankings up cool I got to check those out. He appears to be the safer pick. I think he looks better as a 3 tech

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              Here is Mayocks New Top 5




              Quarterback:




              *1. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
              2. Jake Locker, Washington
              *3. Cam Newton, Auburn
              *4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
              5. Andy Dalton, TCU










              Running back:




              *1. Mark Ingram, Alabama
              2. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois
              *3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State
              *4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
              *5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State




              Wide receiver:




              *1. A.J. Green, Georgia
              *2. Julio Jones, Alabama
              3. Titus Young, Boise State
              *4. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
              *5. Torrey Smith




              Tight end:




              *1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
              2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
              3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee
              4. D.J.Williams, Arkansas
              5. Virgil Green, Nevada




              Guard/center:




              1. Mike Pouncey, Florida
              2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
              3. Clint Boling, Georgia
              4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
              5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State




              Tackle:




              1. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
              2. Nate Solder, Colorado
              *3. Tyron Smith, Southern California
              4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
              T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova
              T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State










              Defensive end:




              *1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
              *2. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
              3. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
              4. Cameron Jordan, California
              *5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina




              Defensive tackle:




              *1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama
              *2. Nick Fairley, Auburn
              *3. Corey Liuget, Illinois
              4. Stephen Paea, Oregon State
              *5. Jurrell Casey, Southern California




              Outside Linebacker:




              1. Von Miller, Texas A&M
              *2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
              *3. Justin Houston, Georgia
              4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
              5. Chris Carter, Fresno State




              Inside Linebacker:




              *1. Martez Wilson, Illinois
              2. Colin McCarthy, Miami (Fla.)
              3. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
              4. Casey Matthews, Oregon
              5. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU




              Cornerback:




              *1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
              2. Prince Amukamara
              *3. Aaron Williams, Texas
              4. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
              *5. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)




              Safety:




              *1. Rahim Moore, UCLA
              2. Ahmad Black, Florida
              3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
              4. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
              5. Deunta Williams, North Carolina

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                [quote user="BlueSanta"]

                I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.[/quote]

                I think there are 5 elite prospects.

                Bowers
                Fairley
                Dareus
                AJ Green
                Peterson

                And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind.

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                  [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="BlueSanta"]

                  I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.[/quote]

                  I think there are 5 elite prospects.

                  Bowers
                  Fairley
                  Dareus
                  AJ Green
                  Peterson

                  And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind.[/quote]
                  Will be interesting to see what we do if either Aldon Smith or Quinn are on the board at 19.....Quinn is a top 5 talent & i think if Aldon Smith stayed in school he couldve easily been a top 5-10 pick in 2012....

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                    surprised to see quinn as his 5th de

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                      [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

                      Here is Mayocks New Top 5




                      Quarterback:




                      *1. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
                      2. Jake Locker, Washington
                      *3. Cam Newton, Auburn
                      *4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
                      5. Andy Dalton, TCU










                      Running back:




                      *1. Mark Ingram, Alabama
                      2. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois
                      *3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State
                      *4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
                      *5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State




                      Wide receiver:




                      *1. A.J. Green, Georgia
                      *2. Julio Jones, Alabama
                      3. Titus Young, Boise State
                      *4. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
                      *5. Torrey Smith




                      Tight end:




                      *1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
                      2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
                      3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee
                      4. D.J.Williams, Arkansas
                      5. Virgil Green, Nevada




                      Guard/center:




                      1. Mike Pouncey, Florida
                      2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
                      3. Clint Boling, Georgia
                      4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
                      5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State




                      Tackle:




                      1. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
                      2. Nate Solder, Colorado
                      *3. Tyron Smith, Southern California
                      4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
                      T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova
                      T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State










                      Defensive end:




                      *1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
                      *2. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
                      3. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
                      4. Cameron Jordan, California
                      *5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina




                      Defensive tackle:




                      *1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama
                      *2. Nick Fairley, Auburn
                      *3. Corey Liuget, Illinois
                      4. Stephen Paea, Oregon State
                      *5. Jurrell Casey, Southern California




                      Outside Linebacker:




                      1. Von Miller, Texas A&M
                      *2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
                      *3. Justin Houston, Georgia
                      4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
                      5. Chris Carter, Fresno State




                      Inside Linebacker:




                      *1. Martez Wilson, Illinois
                      2. Colin McCarthy, Miami (Fla.)
                      3. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
                      4. Casey Matthews, Oregon
                      5. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU




                      Cornerback:




                      *1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
                      2. Prince Amukamara
                      *3. Aaron Williams, Texas
                      4. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
                      *5. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)




                      Safety:




                      *1. Rahim Moore, UCLA
                      2. Ahmad Black, Florida
                      3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
                      4. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
                      5. Deunta Williams, North Carolina

                      [/quote] wow, Gilchrist at num 3 safety??LoL I don't know about that... I think hes a super sleeper, and i mentioned that awhile ago, and i love his versatility, but to have em over guys like Denuta Williams is crazy! I woulden't even have Gilcrist on my safety list.. I can't believe he dosen't have Joe Lefeged on there over him... Lefeged is a heck of a safety prospect, and is a Safety, not a possible CB, who played safety in the past, or can help safety in a pinch...

                      I totally don't agree with Jimmy Smith being under Aaron Williams, but i have definetly not been on the brandon Harris train, so that dosen't surprise me there... Theres actually a Ton more guys i totally dissagre with...I don't put mayock on super pedestal like some on here, but i still like em, and i'm surprised at how many things i totally dissagree with this yr(so far).. I am glad hes got Ijalana on his OT list, as i think he'll eventually be a possible LT in the league, but sherrod 5th? No way, hes the best Tackle in this class, in my opinion....

                      Glad to see Daniel Thomas get some love, i've been on him since the first wk of the yr... I would have Powell at 5 over Jaquizz....

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                        [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="BlueSanta"]

                        I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.[/quote]

                        I think there are 5 elite prospects.

                        Bowers
                        Fairley
                        Dareus
                        AJ Green
                        Peterson

                        And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind.[/quote] I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....

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                          [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="BlueSanta"]

                          I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.[/quote]

                          I think there are 5 elite prospects.

                          Bowers
                          Fairley
                          Dareus
                          AJ Green
                          Peterson

                          And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind.[/quote]

                          I'm not sure I'd classify Fairley as 'Elite'. He is when he's on, and plays, but he isn't always on, and doesn't always play. That to me is the hallmark of an Elite player: They are ALWAYS on. Suh never took games or plays off, Adrian Peterson doesn't have games where he just doesn't feel like it.

                          As I look at it, to be a Very Good player, you have to have either tremendous physical gifts or tremendous desire/work ethic. Look at Plax and AP. Plax had rare physical gifts, but very common work eithic, where as Pierce had very common physical abilities, but incredible desire/work ethic.

                          Elite players have both rare physical abilities, and the work ethic to make full use of them, all the time.

                          Fairley reminds me a lot of Haynesworth, and that's not entirely a good thing.

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                            [quote user="nycsportzfan"] I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....
                            [/quote]

                            I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete.

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                              [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]

                              Here is Mayocks New Top 5




                              Quarterback:




                              *1. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
                              2. Jake Locker, Washington
                              *3. Cam Newton, Auburn
                              *4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
                              5. Andy Dalton, TCU










                              Running back:




                              *1. Mark Ingram, Alabama
                              2. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois
                              *3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State
                              *4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
                              *5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State




                              Wide receiver:




                              *1. A.J. Green, Georgia
                              *2. Julio Jones, Alabama
                              3. Titus Young, Boise State
                              *4. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
                              *5. Torrey Smith




                              Tight end:




                              *1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
                              2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
                              3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee
                              4. D.J.Williams, Arkansas
                              5. Virgil Green, Nevada




                              Guard/center:




                              1. Mike Pouncey, Florida
                              2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
                              3. Clint Boling, Georgia
                              4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
                              5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State




                              Tackle:




                              1. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
                              2. Nate Solder, Colorado
                              *3. Tyron Smith, Southern California
                              4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
                              T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova
                              T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State










                              Defensive end:




                              *1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
                              *2. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
                              3. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
                              4. Cameron Jordan, California
                              *5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina




                              Defensive tackle:




                              *1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama
                              *2. Nick Fairley, Auburn
                              *3. Corey Liuget, Illinois
                              4. Stephen Paea, Oregon State
                              *5. Jurrell Casey, Southern California




                              Outside Linebacker:




                              1. Von Miller, Texas A&M
                              *2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
                              *3. Justin Houston, Georgia
                              4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
                              5. Chris Carter, Fresno State




                              Inside Linebacker:




                              *1. Martez Wilson, Illinois
                              2. Colin McCarthy, Miami (Fla.)
                              3. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
                              4. Casey Matthews, Oregon
                              5. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU




                              Cornerback:




                              *1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
                              2. Prince Amukamara
                              *3. Aaron Williams, Texas
                              4. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
                              *5. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)




                              Safety:




                              *1. Rahim Moore, UCLA
                              2. Ahmad Black, Florida
                              3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
                              4. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
                              5. Deunta Williams, North Carolina

                              [/quote] wow, Gilchrist at num 3 safety??LoL I don't know about that... I think hes a super sleeper, and i mentioned that awhile ago, and i love his versatility, but to have em over guys like Denuta Williams is crazy! I woulden't even have Gilcrist on my safety list.. I can't believe he dosen't have Joe Lefeged on there over him... Lefeged is a heck of a safety prospect, and is a Safety, not a possible CB, who played safety in the past, or can help safety in a pinch...

                              I totally don't agree with Jimmy Smith being under Aaron Williams, but i have definetly not been on the brandon Harris train, so that dosen't surprise me there... Theres actually a Ton more guys i totally dissagre with...I don't put mayock on super pedestal like some on here, but i still like em, and i'm surprised at how many things i totally dissagree with this yr(so far).. I am glad hes got Ijalana on his OT list, as i think he'll eventually be a possible LT in the league, but sherrod 5th? No way, hes the best Tackle in this class, in my opinion....

                              Glad to see Daniel Thomas get some love, i've been on him since the first wk of the yr... I would have Powell at 5 over Jaquizz....
                              [/quote]
                              Agree....Locker over Newton lol

                              Here are some of his rankings from this time last year
                              QB
                              1. Bradford (ended up going 1st)
                              2. Clausen (48th)
                              3. McCoy (85th)
                              4. Tebow (25th)
                              t5. Levovour (181)
                              t5. Pike (204)

                              Safeties
                              1. Berry (5)
                              2. Mays (49)
                              3. Thomas (14)
                              4 Assante (160)
                              5. Chad Jones (76)

                              Defensive Ends
                              1. JPP (15)
                              2. Morgan (16)
                              3. Dunlap (54)
                              4. Griffin (100)
                              5. Graham (13)

                              http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story/...spect-rankings


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                              • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                                juice you must be using the list he had earlier in the year. at the end of the year Mayok had Thomas as his #1 ranked safety.

                                AT DE he didnt even end up having Dunlap on the top 5.

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