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  • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    I think the Giants might be looking at positions we're not even thinking about. Maybe no tackle or linebacker gets picked in the 1st 3 rounds.

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      [quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6DGTN-_qxU




      Courtney Upshaw vs Auburn




      [/quote]Bama has a very solid group at the LB position (maybe the best in the nation). Upshaw is a stud and he could/should go in the top 15 if he stays healthy.
      [/quote]




      Yeah Bamas defense is loaded overall this year. Upshaw,Hightower, and the sophomore CJ Mosely who will be the best of them all I believe. Plus up front Murphy and Square. Thesecondary Barron, Kirkpatrick. It takes me forever to go through an Alabama tape. I have to watch each play 3 times to see what everyone of those guys are doing. I have to really be in the mood to work on them because it takes a lot of paying attention.




      I have a Hightower tape done that I havent uploaded yet. Donte Paige Moss 2. Im going to get to FSU soon. I kind of want to do a Shayne Skov tape first though.

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      • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

        [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="titwio"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


        Trent Richardson vs Penn State




        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_x0COyWKuU




        [/quote] I'm a huge Richardson fan... Can't wait to see him get the majority of the carries next season...[/quote]




        He will get the bulkbut Alabama has some guys on that roster at RB that are very good behind him. redshirt sophmore Eddie Lacy and Number 1 rivals all purpose back recruit Dee Hart.

        [/quote]I expect a big year out of Richardson. Bold statement but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in NY this year walking away w/ either the Doak or Heisman award.
        [/quote]We shall see. He has that ability I just wonder if he will get enough touches. Lamichael James will ,Kniles Davis will, Marcus Lattimore will. I cant see how if Luck has another good year if he doesnt get it.[/quote]Luck is probably the frontrunner right now for the Heisman, but Richardson will at least get nominated for the Doak and make the trip to NY.

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        • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

          [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] I forgot a 6th rd pick, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

          1. akeem ayers lb ucla
          2. davon house cb n.mex st
          3. jake kirkpatrick c t.c.u
          4. ross homan lb ohio st
          6. lee smith te marshall
          6. charles clay fb/te/rb/wr tulsa
          6. KYLE HIX RT TEXAS- a nice late rd sleeper RT player, with good size and expierence..
          7. davonte shannon ss buffalo
          [/quote]
          Looks good to me.

          Ive said there are guys I like more than Ayers in the 1st, though its not like I would cry if we selected him.

          Of course, you know I like Davonte Shannon. Im a big fan of Lee Smith, House and Kirkpatrick. Homan is not only exactly the type of player we need(43 old good in space) but he is exactly the type of class-act leader the Giants like to select. I do think A FB who can catch would be a nice addition to this team, so Clay would fit there.

          Overal, I can say I would be quite happy with this draft.








          [/quote] As bored as i am... I was wondering santa, if i changed my 1st rder, to a O-lineman, which would essentially, change my whole mock, do u like it????????


          1. Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin- obviously, the pop pick is castanzo, but i'm slowley starting to think someone gets him before we pick and both ty.smith and ant castanzo are off the board.. I was impressed with carimi this past season, and hes a run mauling machine, with great charechter and confidence...I think he kinda gets a bum wrap, as people say, hes not athletic enough for LT, but i dont agree, and think hes just athletic enough, to handle most DE's, and his pure strength and strong hands and punch are uncanny... I liked Bulaga alot last yr, and i have carimi just above him.. He tested well at the combine, and with a stellar winning career to boot, whats not to like? Again, i don't think he's a athletic freak, but more athletic then some give credit for... Bradshaw will love running to his side, that is for sure.. Also, if i'm wrong about the LT thing, he can be our future stud at RT, with Beatty hopefully being the other half of our bookends...

          2. Mason Foster LB Wash- a very involved LB, who really gets after it, has sideline to sideline capability, and solid instincts... Has the size, to hold up on the NFL level, and should be a 3down LB, and extremely good against the run.... I love this kid...

          3. Deandre McDaniel SS Clem- a value pick here.. No more worrying about Chad Jones recovery, and we get a steal here, who last yr was a shoe in for RD1-2 consideration.. Hes got size, and more then enough speed, and could really hold his own in that Deon Grant Hybrid role, in my opinion.. Alot of upside here, as McDaniel could end up as a pro bowl S, when said and done.. Reminds me alot of Kenny Phillips coming out, for his phyiscal nature, but probably has a edge in Ball Skills... Also, a force in run support.. Good form while tackling, and should be a all around safety, exceling in both pass and run support..

          4. John Moffitt G/C Wisconsin- a guy i freaking love, and had em mocked in RD 2, before a avg to bad combine.. It will certainly drop em(shoulden't), and i hope we pounce... with carimi and moffitt, we can really pound the rock, and Moffitt could develop into a C as well, as hes got some exp there.. Reese loves versatile players, and Moffitt has played all 3spots on the interior. Gives above avg Effort, on every play, and has a NY Giant phyisicallity to his play... A stronger version of Rich Seubert, in my opinion...

          6. Cortez Allen CB Citadel- A sleeper i like, with good size and speed, Allen had a somewhat down season, or at least, Quiet season, due mostly to teams trying to avoid his side of the field, and kinda got back on Radars with a good combine.. In time, could surprise, and become a solid Corner, with added ball skills.... Excels in Man Coverege, and has some versatiilty, as he was moved around the secondary, mostly due to teams trying to elimate him from plays...

          6. Lee Smith TE Marshall- See last mock

          6. Evan Royster RB Penn St- a tough between the tackles runner, who can catch outta the backfield, very well.. Theres some upside here, and he could turn into a stud in the right situation.. Good blocker as well.. Might not be the speediest of backs, but can gain the hard short yards, with a rugged style of running, and also be a weapon in the pass catching game...

          7. Dane Sazenbacher wr/kr Ohio St.- a blue collared player, who u take a chance on in these type rds, as u may just find a Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead type.. Always goes at 100pct, displays good hands, and if things work out, could become a big help, as a 3rd or 4th WR, in the slot, and on occasion, gets deep, and helps in return game... Gives it all, as a blocker as well..

          A bunch of blue collared players here, and the Run game is helped immensly, and theres some upside toward teh back end with guys like Royster and Sazenbacher... The oline is solitfyed with the Corn bread wisconsin boys(moffitt and carimi), and added blocking with Lee Smith, making Bradshaw and Jacobs very happy men...lol U get gigantic rd 3 value in Mcdaniel, as hes got RD 1/2 type potential, and u got a guy in Cotrez Allen, who when said and done, could possibly be a starter....
          [/quote]Good value and good players. I like Moffit it seems like the combine that he took some hits.On tape he gets to the second level with ease. I think Moffit will be a starter in the NFL and I guy I would groom to play center.

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          • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

            [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6DGTN-_qxU




            Courtney Upshaw vs Auburn




            [/quote]Bama has a very solid group at the LB position (maybe the best in the nation). Upshaw is a stud and he could/should go in the top 15 if he stays healthy.
            [/quote]




            Yeah Bamas defense is loaded overall this year. Upshaw,Hightower, and the sophomore CJ Mosely who will be the best of them all I believe. Plus up front Murphy and Square. Thesecondary Barron, Kirkpatrick. It takes me forever to go through an Alabama tape. I have to watch each play 3 times to see what everyone of those guys are doing. I have to really be in the mood to work on them because it takes a lot of paying attention.




            I have a Hightower tape done that I havent uploaded yet. Donte Paige Moss 2. Im going to get to FSU soon. I kind of want to do a Shayne Skov tape first though.

            [/quote]Yeah, that Alabama team is gonna be hard to beat this year. They are stacked on both sides of the ball w/ elite talent and most importantly have solid depth behind their starters. I'm looking forward to see them play the Gators in "The Swamp" on October 1st. Not that I think Florida will win that game, but it will be exciting and plenty of "elite talent" to watch on both sides of the ball.

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            • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

              [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] I forgot a 6th rd pick, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

              1. akeem ayers lb ucla
              2. davon house cb n.mex st
              3. jake kirkpatrick c t.c.u
              4. ross homan lb ohio st
              6. lee smith te marshall
              6. charles clay fb/te/rb/wr tulsa
              6. KYLE HIX RT TEXAS- a nice late rd sleeper RT player, with good size and expierence..
              7. davonte shannon ss buffalo
              [/quote]
              Looks good to me.

              Ive said there are guys I like more than Ayers in the 1st, though its not like I would cry if we selected him.

              Of course, you know I like Davonte Shannon. Im a big fan of Lee Smith, House and Kirkpatrick. Homan is not only exactly the type of player we need(43 old good in space) but he is exactly the type of class-act leader the Giants like to select. I do think A FB who can catch would be a nice addition to this team, so Clay would fit there.

              Overal, I can say I would be quite happy with this draft.








              [/quote] As bored as i am... I was wondering santa, if i changed my 1st rder, to a O-lineman, which would essentially, change my whole mock, do u like it????????


              1. Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin- obviously, the pop pick is castanzo, but i'm slowley starting to think someone gets him before we pick and both ty.smith and ant castanzo are off the board.. I was impressed with carimi this past season, and hes a run mauling machine, with great charechter and confidence...I think he kinda gets a bum wrap, as people say, hes not athletic enough for LT, but i dont agree, and think hes just athletic enough, to handle most DE's, and his pure strength and strong hands and punch are uncanny... I liked Bulaga alot last yr, and i have carimi just above him.. He tested well at the combine, and with a stellar winning career to boot, whats not to like? Again, i don't think he's a athletic freak, but more athletic then some give credit for... Bradshaw will love running to his side, that is for sure.. Also, if i'm wrong about the LT thing, he can be our future stud at RT, with Beatty hopefully being the other half of our bookends...

              2. Mason Foster LB Wash- a very involved LB, who really gets after it, has sideline to sideline capability, and solid instincts... Has the size, to hold up on the NFL level, and should be a 3down LB, and extremely good against the run.... I love this kid...

              3. Deandre McDaniel SS Clem- a value pick here.. No more worrying about Chad Jones recovery, and we get a steal here, who last yr was a shoe in for RD1-2 consideration.. Hes got size, and more then enough speed, and could really hold his own in that Deon Grant Hybrid role, in my opinion.. Alot of upside here, as McDaniel could end up as a pro bowl S, when said and done.. Reminds me alot of Kenny Phillips coming out, for his phyiscal nature, but probably has a edge in Ball Skills... Also, a force in run support.. Good form while tackling, and should be a all around safety, exceling in both pass and run support..

              4. John Moffitt G/C Wisconsin- a guy i freaking love, and had em mocked in RD 2, before a avg to bad combine.. It will certainly drop em(shoulden't), and i hope we pounce... with carimi and moffitt, we can really pound the rock, and Moffitt could develop into a C as well, as hes got some exp there.. Reese loves versatile players, and Moffitt has played all 3spots on the interior. Gives above avg Effort, on every play, and has a NY Giant phyisicallity to his play... A stronger version of Rich Seubert, in my opinion...

              6. Cortez Allen CB Citadel- A sleeper i like, with good size and speed, Allen had a somewhat down season, or at least, Quiet season, due mostly to teams trying to avoid his side of the field, and kinda got back on Radars with a good combine.. In time, could surprise, and become a solid Corner, with added ball skills.... Excels in Man Coverege, and has some versatiilty, as he was moved around the secondary, mostly due to teams trying to elimate him from plays...

              6. Lee Smith TE Marshall- See last mock

              6. Evan Royster RB Penn St- a tough between the tackles runner, who can catch outta the backfield, very well.. Theres some upside here, and he could turn into a stud in the right situation.. Good blocker as well.. Might not be the speediest of backs, but can gain the hard short yards, with a rugged style of running, and also be a weapon in the pass catching game...

              7. Dane Sazenbacher wr/kr Ohio St.- a blue collared player, who u take a chance on in these type rds, as u may just find a Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead type.. Always goes at 100pct, displays good hands, and if things work out, could become a big help, as a 3rd or 4th WR, in the slot, and on occasion, gets deep, and helps in return game... Gives it all, as a blocker as well..

              A bunch of blue collared players here, and the Run game is helped immensly, and theres some upside toward teh back end with guys like Royster and Sazenbacher... The oline is solitfyed with the Corn bread wisconsin boys(moffitt and carimi), and added blocking with Lee Smith, making Bradshaw and Jacobs very happy men...lol U get gigantic rd 3 value in Mcdaniel, as hes got RD 1/2 type potential, and u got a guy in Cotrez Allen, who when said and done, could possibly be a starter....
              [/quote]Good value and good players. I like Moffit it seems like the combine that he took some hits.On tape he gets to the second level with ease. I think Moffit will be a starter in the NFL and I guy I would groom to play center.[/quote]

              A Clemson grad here. I'm not quite sure how I feel about Deandre McDaniel in the 3rd. He had a phenomenal breakout year his JR year. Last year he simply wasn't the same player. Missed lots of assignments and was beat deep multiple times. He also lost some of the viciousness he had his JR year. This is the same guy who in his JR picked off Christian Ponder, returned it only to see Ponder right in his sights, smiled, then laid him out and separated his shoulder effectively ending Ponder's season.

              I'm not sure what happened to him in his SR yr. Some have suggested that he took it easy b/c he didn't want to risk injury, but I'm not sure I buy that. He often times found himself out of position and simply didn't come close to having the on field impact of his JR year. I view him as a boom or bust type player. He showed he has the skills, but can he find them again and further develop them once in the league?

              Redeye, I'd be curious to hear your take on him?

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                [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="CGYgiant"]Mike Mayock on Akeem Ayers:

                "when he has his hands off the line he seems lost to me, whether it be the run or the pass Akeem Ayers is not comfortable in when he is off the line. At this point in time he should be considered a 3-4 OLB"

                he also talked about how he lacked explosion at the combine, also talked about his lack of strength (18 reps at the combine) and talked about how that was more of a DB number... (CB Jimmy Smith had 25 reps)

                it seems as though the scouting process continues Akeem Ayers is proving to be more and more like Clint Sintim, that experiment failed, one can only hope the giants dont make that same mistake twice. Sintim fit Sherdians scheme and still failed. Can someone explain to me why the Giants would even be considering Ayers at 19? other then the fact that hes a LB?
                [/quote] Mike Mayock said right after Ayers ran his 40 at the combine, " i don't care, i look at the tape with Ayers"... Also, he says right here, that hes a fit for either a 3/4 or 4/3 team..
                On the prospects from the Southern California schools:

                "Akeem Ayers, I've got him, I believe, as my No. 2 outside linebacker
                prospect. He's played both with his hand in the dirt and up. He played
                linebacker at UCLA. I think he's got first-round ability because of his
                natural ability to get to the quarterback. Most of the 3-4 teams are
                very interested in him, although I think he can play in a 4-3 scheme. So
                if you're scheme diverse, that's a good thing.

                Secondly, Rahim Moore, the free safety at UCLA, in a bad, bad safety
                year, he's the best safety out there. Whether or not that gets him in
                the first round, I don't know. ... He reminded me on tape a little bit
                of Earl Tomas. Not quite as good, but he's got great range. I think
                he'll fit somewhere late one to mid two."

                Ayers got a bad wrap simply because of the combine.. If u look at the overall performance of the kid, on the field, its a whole diffrent ball game.. His versatility is insane, as he lined up inside, outisde, and with hand in the dirt, and rushing off the edge, standing up.. He makes a ton of big plays, and that includes in coverege, where hes at least, held his own.. He looked good in the Drills at the combine,, and everyones in agreement there, if u go by the many many mock sites that actually talk about the drills, which they should....

                Again, i like Ayers, but don't take this the wrong way, as there is other players i like for the 1ts rd as well, but i get sick of hering about his combine, as he shows on film, he can do many things and plays just as Quick as say, Martez Wilson, on tape, because he knows what hes doing on a football field, as opposed to some fo these guys, who sure, might run fast, but look clueless on the field...
                [/quote]

                Just because Ayers could pay the 4-3, does not mean he will be as effective as he would be in a 3-4. Dont get me wrong, I think Ayers is going to be fantastic in a 3-4, that's the only reason why he has a first round grade in my opinion.

                If you watched Ayers this year (im sure you did) he was far more effective at the beginning in the season then he was at the end. The reason? he was used differently. At the beginning he almost always lined up with his hand in the dirty whereas UCLA decided to play him standing up later in the year and he wasn't nearly as good as before.

                I think Ayers will be adequate in a 4-3 but not a first rounder, imo linebackers in the first round is never a good value.. but I know id be a minority thinking that on these boards.

                and btw i dont like Martez Wilson either..

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                  [quote user="Neverend"]I think the Giants might be looking at positions we're not even thinking about. Maybe no tackle or linebacker gets picked in the 1st 3 rounds.[/quote]
                  I definitely see that as a possibility. Maybe something like liuget in the first davon house in the 2nd demarco murray in the 3rd. Some combo of cb dt and RB/TE/S is a very real possibility if u ask me and I wouldnt mind it

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                    Lamichael James vs Stanford "2010




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                      Donta Hightower vs Auburn




                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyeXZTTcz8E

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                        [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] I forgot a 6th rd pick, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

                        1. akeem ayers lb ucla
                        2. davon house cb n.mex st
                        3. jake kirkpatrick c t.c.u
                        4. ross homan lb ohio st
                        6. lee smith te marshall
                        6. charles clay fb/te/rb/wr tulsa
                        6. KYLE HIX RT TEXAS- a nice late rd sleeper RT player, with good size and expierence..
                        7. davonte shannon ss buffalo
                        [/quote]
                        Looks good to me.

                        Ive said there are guys I like more than Ayers in the 1st, though its not like I would cry if we selected him.

                        Of course, you know I like Davonte Shannon. Im a big fan of Lee Smith, House and Kirkpatrick. Homan is not only exactly the type of player we need(43 old good in space) but he is exactly the type of class-act leader the Giants like to select. I do think A FB who can catch would be a nice addition to this team, so Clay would fit there.

                        Overal, I can say I would be quite happy with this draft.








                        [/quote] As bored as i am... I was wondering santa, if i changed my 1st rder, to a O-lineman, which would essentially, change my whole mock, do u like it????????


                        1. Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin- obviously, the pop pick is castanzo, but i'm slowley starting to think someone gets him before we pick and both ty.smith and ant castanzo are off the board.. I was impressed with carimi this past season, and hes a run mauling machine, with great charechter and confidence...I think he kinda gets a bum wrap, as people say, hes not athletic enough for LT, but i dont agree, and think hes just athletic enough, to handle most DE's, and his pure strength and strong hands and punch are uncanny... I liked Bulaga alot last yr, and i have carimi just above him.. He tested well at the combine, and with a stellar winning career to boot, whats not to like? Again, i don't think he's a athletic freak, but more athletic then some give credit for... Bradshaw will love running to his side, that is for sure.. Also, if i'm wrong about the LT thing, he can be our future stud at RT, with Beatty hopefully being the other half of our bookends...

                        2. Mason Foster LB Wash- a very involved LB, who really gets after it, has sideline to sideline capability, and solid instincts... Has the size, to hold up on the NFL level, and should be a 3down LB, and extremely good against the run.... I love this kid...

                        3. Deandre McDaniel SS Clem- a value pick here.. No more worrying about Chad Jones recovery, and we get a steal here, who last yr was a shoe in for RD1-2 consideration.. Hes got size, and more then enough speed, and could really hold his own in that Deon Grant Hybrid role, in my opinion.. Alot of upside here, as McDaniel could end up as a pro bowl S, when said and done.. Reminds me alot of Kenny Phillips coming out, for his phyiscal nature, but probably has a edge in Ball Skills... Also, a force in run support.. Good form while tackling, and should be a all around safety, exceling in both pass and run support..

                        4. John Moffitt G/C Wisconsin- a guy i freaking love, and had em mocked in RD 2, before a avg to bad combine.. It will certainly drop em(shoulden't), and i hope we pounce... with carimi and moffitt, we can really pound the rock, and Moffitt could develop into a C as well, as hes got some exp there.. Reese loves versatile players, and Moffitt has played all 3spots on the interior. Gives above avg Effort, on every play, and has a NY Giant phyisicallity to his play... A stronger version of Rich Seubert, in my opinion...

                        6. Cortez Allen CB Citadel- A sleeper i like, with good size and speed, Allen had a somewhat down season, or at least, Quiet season, due mostly to teams trying to avoid his side of the field, and kinda got back on Radars with a good combine.. In time, could surprise, and become a solid Corner, with added ball skills.... Excels in Man Coverege, and has some versatiilty, as he was moved around the secondary, mostly due to teams trying to elimate him from plays...

                        6. Lee Smith TE Marshall- See last mock

                        6. Evan Royster RB Penn St- a tough between the tackles runner, who can catch outta the backfield, very well.. Theres some upside here, and he could turn into a stud in the right situation.. Good blocker as well.. Might not be the speediest of backs, but can gain the hard short yards, with a rugged style of running, and also be a weapon in the pass catching game...

                        7. Dane Sazenbacher wr/kr Ohio St.- a blue collared player, who u take a chance on in these type rds, as u may just find a Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead type.. Always goes at 100pct, displays good hands, and if things work out, could become a big help, as a 3rd or 4th WR, in the slot, and on occasion, gets deep, and helps in return game... Gives it all, as a blocker as well..

                        A bunch of blue collared players here, and the Run game is helped immensly, and theres some upside toward teh back end with guys like Royster and Sazenbacher... The oline is solitfyed with the Corn bread wisconsin boys(moffitt and carimi), and added blocking with Lee Smith, making Bradshaw and Jacobs very happy men...lol U get gigantic rd 3 value in Mcdaniel, as hes got RD 1/2 type potential, and u got a guy in Cotrez Allen, who when said and done, could possibly be a starter....
                        [/quote]

                        Thats tough, both are good. I think I still like the 1st though.

                        It comes down to round 3. I like Kirkpatrick a ton and if we havent already address the interior line in the 1st 2 rounds, there is nobody I would want more. As much as I like Moffit, I just dont think we wait that long to find a center/guard.


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                        • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                          [quote user="NCGiant23"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] I forgot a 6th rd pick, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

                          1. akeem ayers lb ucla
                          2. davon house cb n.mex st
                          3. jake kirkpatrick c t.c.u
                          4. ross homan lb ohio st
                          6. lee smith te marshall
                          6. charles clay fb/te/rb/wr tulsa
                          6. KYLE HIX RT TEXAS- a nice late rd sleeper RT player, with good size and expierence..
                          7. davonte shannon ss buffalo
                          [/quote]
                          Looks good to me.

                          Ive said there are guys I like more than Ayers in the 1st, though its not like I would cry if we selected him.

                          Of course, you know I like Davonte Shannon. Im a big fan of Lee Smith, House and Kirkpatrick. Homan is not only exactly the type of player we need(43 old good in space) but he is exactly the type of class-act leader the Giants like to select. I do think A FB who can catch would be a nice addition to this team, so Clay would fit there.

                          Overal, I can say I would be quite happy with this draft.








                          [/quote] As bored as i am... I was wondering santa, if i changed my 1st rder, to a O-lineman, which would essentially, change my whole mock, do u like it????????


                          1. Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin- obviously, the pop pick is castanzo, but i'm slowley starting to think someone gets him before we pick and both ty.smith and ant castanzo are off the board.. I was impressed with carimi this past season, and hes a run mauling machine, with great charechter and confidence...I think he kinda gets a bum wrap, as people say, hes not athletic enough for LT, but i dont agree, and think hes just athletic enough, to handle most DE's, and his pure strength and strong hands and punch are uncanny... I liked Bulaga alot last yr, and i have carimi just above him.. He tested well at the combine, and with a stellar winning career to boot, whats not to like? Again, i don't think he's a athletic freak, but more athletic then some give credit for... Bradshaw will love running to his side, that is for sure.. Also, if i'm wrong about the LT thing, he can be our future stud at RT, with Beatty hopefully being the other half of our bookends...

                          2. Mason Foster LB Wash- a very involved LB, who really gets after it, has sideline to sideline capability, and solid instincts... Has the size, to hold up on the NFL level, and should be a 3down LB, and extremely good against the run.... I love this kid...

                          3. Deandre McDaniel SS Clem- a value pick here.. No more worrying about Chad Jones recovery, and we get a steal here, who last yr was a shoe in for RD1-2 consideration.. Hes got size, and more then enough speed, and could really hold his own in that Deon Grant Hybrid role, in my opinion.. Alot of upside here, as McDaniel could end up as a pro bowl S, when said and done.. Reminds me alot of Kenny Phillips coming out, for his phyiscal nature, but probably has a edge in Ball Skills... Also, a force in run support.. Good form while tackling, and should be a all around safety, exceling in both pass and run support..

                          4. John Moffitt G/C Wisconsin- a guy i freaking love, and had em mocked in RD 2, before a avg to bad combine.. It will certainly drop em(shoulden't), and i hope we pounce... with carimi and moffitt, we can really pound the rock, and Moffitt could develop into a C as well, as hes got some exp there.. Reese loves versatile players, and Moffitt has played all 3spots on the interior. Gives above avg Effort, on every play, and has a NY Giant phyisicallity to his play... A stronger version of Rich Seubert, in my opinion...

                          6. Cortez Allen CB Citadel- A sleeper i like, with good size and speed, Allen had a somewhat down season, or at least, Quiet season, due mostly to teams trying to avoid his side of the field, and kinda got back on Radars with a good combine.. In time, could surprise, and become a solid Corner, with added ball skills.... Excels in Man Coverege, and has some versatiilty, as he was moved around the secondary, mostly due to teams trying to elimate him from plays...

                          6. Lee Smith TE Marshall- See last mock

                          6. Evan Royster RB Penn St- a tough between the tackles runner, who can catch outta the backfield, very well.. Theres some upside here, and he could turn into a stud in the right situation.. Good blocker as well.. Might not be the speediest of backs, but can gain the hard short yards, with a rugged style of running, and also be a weapon in the pass catching game...

                          7. Dane Sazenbacher wr/kr Ohio St.- a blue collared player, who u take a chance on in these type rds, as u may just find a Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead type.. Always goes at 100pct, displays good hands, and if things work out, could become a big help, as a 3rd or 4th WR, in the slot, and on occasion, gets deep, and helps in return game... Gives it all, as a blocker as well..

                          A bunch of blue collared players here, and the Run game is helped immensly, and theres some upside toward teh back end with guys like Royster and Sazenbacher... The oline is solitfyed with the Corn bread wisconsin boys(moffitt and carimi), and added blocking with Lee Smith, making Bradshaw and Jacobs very happy men...lol U get gigantic rd 3 value in Mcdaniel, as hes got RD 1/2 type potential, and u got a guy in Cotrez Allen, who when said and done, could possibly be a starter....
                          [/quote]Good value and good players. I like Moffit it seems like the combine that he took some hits.On tape he gets to the second level with ease. I think Moffit will be a starter in the NFL and I guy I would groom to play center.[/quote]

                          A Clemson grad here. I'm not quite sure how I feel about Deandre McDaniel in the 3rd. He had a phenomenal breakout year his JR year. Last year he simply wasn't the same player. Missed lots of assignments and was beat deep multiple times. He also lost some of the viciousness he had his JR year. This is the same guy who in his JR picked off Christian Ponder, returned it only to see Ponder right in his sights, smiled, then laid him out and separated his shoulder effectively ending Ponder's season.

                          I'm not sure what happened to him in his SR yr. Some have suggested that he took it easy b/c he didn't want to risk injury, but I'm not sure I buy that. He often times found himself out of position and simply didn't come close to having the on field impact of his JR year. I view him as a boom or bust type player. He showed he has the skills, but can he find them again and further develop them once in the league?

                          Redeye, I'd be curious to hear your take on him?
                          [/quote] thats why i wrote, a value pick, that last yr, was a rd1/2 type pick... Obviously, he falls here, because of his somewhat down season this past yr... U draft McDaniel, in hoping that u get what u got last yr, and that his down yr was something coachable, or maybe clemson as a whole, had alittle bit more of a down season.... Its a value pick, with some risk, because u can be getting a first rd type talent, or a player who peaked the season before last, and had a flukey type yr.. But judging, from his size and speed, and his sure tackling ability, i'm willing to bet in the right scheme and coaching, hes gonna be a pretty good ball player, in the mold of our very own Kenny Phillips....

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                            [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] I forgot a 6th rd pick, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

                            1. akeem ayers lb ucla
                            2. davon house cb n.mex st
                            3. jake kirkpatrick c t.c.u
                            4. ross homan lb ohio st
                            6. lee smith te marshall
                            6. charles clay fb/te/rb/wr tulsa
                            6. KYLE HIX RT TEXAS- a nice late rd sleeper RT player, with good size and expierence..
                            7. davonte shannon ss buffalo
                            [/quote]
                            Looks good to me.

                            Ive said there are guys I like more than Ayers in the 1st, though its not like I would cry if we selected him.

                            Of course, you know I like Davonte Shannon. Im a big fan of Lee Smith, House and Kirkpatrick. Homan is not only exactly the type of player we need(43 old good in space) but he is exactly the type of class-act leader the Giants like to select. I do think A FB who can catch would be a nice addition to this team, so Clay would fit there.

                            Overal, I can say I would be quite happy with this draft.








                            [/quote] As bored as i am... I was wondering santa, if i changed my 1st rder, to a O-lineman, which would essentially, change my whole mock, do u like it????????


                            1. Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin- obviously, the pop pick is castanzo, but i'm slowley starting to think someone gets him before we pick and both ty.smith and ant castanzo are off the board.. I was impressed with carimi this past season, and hes a run mauling machine, with great charechter and confidence...I think he kinda gets a bum wrap, as people say, hes not athletic enough for LT, but i dont agree, and think hes just athletic enough, to handle most DE's, and his pure strength and strong hands and punch are uncanny... I liked Bulaga alot last yr, and i have carimi just above him.. He tested well at the combine, and with a stellar winning career to boot, whats not to like? Again, i don't think he's a athletic freak, but more athletic then some give credit for... Bradshaw will love running to his side, that is for sure.. Also, if i'm wrong about the LT thing, he can be our future stud at RT, with Beatty hopefully being the other half of our bookends...

                            2. Mason Foster LB Wash- a very involved LB, who really gets after it, has sideline to sideline capability, and solid instincts... Has the size, to hold up on the NFL level, and should be a 3down LB, and extremely good against the run.... I love this kid...

                            3. Deandre McDaniel SS Clem- a value pick here.. No more worrying about Chad Jones recovery, and we get a steal here, who last yr was a shoe in for RD1-2 consideration.. Hes got size, and more then enough speed, and could really hold his own in that Deon Grant Hybrid role, in my opinion.. Alot of upside here, as McDaniel could end up as a pro bowl S, when said and done.. Reminds me alot of Kenny Phillips coming out, for his phyiscal nature, but probably has a edge in Ball Skills... Also, a force in run support.. Good form while tackling, and should be a all around safety, exceling in both pass and run support..

                            4. John Moffitt G/C Wisconsin- a guy i freaking love, and had em mocked in RD 2, before a avg to bad combine.. It will certainly drop em(shoulden't), and i hope we pounce... with carimi and moffitt, we can really pound the rock, and Moffitt could develop into a C as well, as hes got some exp there.. Reese loves versatile players, and Moffitt has played all 3spots on the interior. Gives above avg Effort, on every play, and has a NY Giant phyisicallity to his play... A stronger version of Rich Seubert, in my opinion...

                            6. Cortez Allen CB Citadel- A sleeper i like, with good size and speed, Allen had a somewhat down season, or at least, Quiet season, due mostly to teams trying to avoid his side of the field, and kinda got back on Radars with a good combine.. In time, could surprise, and become a solid Corner, with added ball skills.... Excels in Man Coverege, and has some versatiilty, as he was moved around the secondary, mostly due to teams trying to elimate him from plays...

                            6. Lee Smith TE Marshall- See last mock

                            6. Evan Royster RB Penn St- a tough between the tackles runner, who can catch outta the backfield, very well.. Theres some upside here, and he could turn into a stud in the right situation.. Good blocker as well.. Might not be the speediest of backs, but can gain the hard short yards, with a rugged style of running, and also be a weapon in the pass catching game...

                            7. Dane Sazenbacher wr/kr Ohio St.- a blue collared player, who u take a chance on in these type rds, as u may just find a Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead type.. Always goes at 100pct, displays good hands, and if things work out, could become a big help, as a 3rd or 4th WR, in the slot, and on occasion, gets deep, and helps in return game... Gives it all, as a blocker as well..

                            A bunch of blue collared players here, and the Run game is helped immensly, and theres some upside toward teh back end with guys like Royster and Sazenbacher... The oline is solitfyed with the Corn bread wisconsin boys(moffitt and carimi), and added blocking with Lee Smith, making Bradshaw and Jacobs very happy men...lol U get gigantic rd 3 value in Mcdaniel, as hes got RD 1/2 type potential, and u got a guy in Cotrez Allen, who when said and done, could possibly be a starter....
                            [/quote]

                            Thats tough, both are good. I think I still like the 1st though.

                            It comes down to round 3. I like Kirkpatrick a ton and if we havent already address the interior line in the 1st 2 rounds, there is nobody I would want more. As much as I like Moffit, I just dont think we wait that long to find a center/guard.


                            [/quote] ya, but if there was ever a yr to wait for a center/guard, this is the yr, as its the deepest crop in yrs, if not the past decade...

                            Moffitt may be a shoe in for RD 2, in other yrs, if there wasen't such studly prospects like Rodney Hudson, Mike Pouncey, Orlando Franklin, Marcus Cannon, Jake Kirkpatrick, danny watkins, clint boling, will rackley, benjamin ijalana, stef wisnewski, brandon fusco, kris o'dowd, demarcus love, james carpenter....etc...tec

                            Theres a ton of talented guards and centers, and guard/center combos, this season... I think you get great value outta moffitt, because he falls because of a combine performance, that was less then stellar, but clearly, u put on the tape, and the guys flat out dominant... Not to mention, hes got expierence on all 3interior positons.... We love that versatility on our Oline, maybe more then any team in football... Moffitt really fits this team well... I love kirkpatrick myself, but i believe at least from a versatility standpoint, u get quite a bit more outta moffitt.. But, kirkpatrick certainly fits the bill, as a giant type anchor, and Quarterback of the oline, with his off the charts intangables, and winning attitude.....

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                              The more and more i think about Perry Fewell.. I think a player hes gonna really want on our defense, is Greg Jones of Michigan St... Hes versatile, as he can play inside or out on the Weakside, hes a good sideline to sideline player, and obviously, can get to the passer, and behind the line, and also can drop into a zone and blanket a TE or RB on short routes... I have a feeling if Greg Jones is on the board in RD 2, and we still need a LB, we may draft him... We sometimes talk about players who remind us of giant type draft picks, and last yr, i said Chad Jones and Sean Lee reminded me of Giant Type picks, and this yr, i'd have to say Greg Jones, leads the way... He just reminds me of a guy the giants will love.. I'd be surprised if we don't bring him in for a visit... I could see the giants drafting Greg Jones and Mark Herzlich, to be totally honest....

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                              • Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

                                A absoulutley great article from Rob Rang, with his Overrated/Undrrated per positon.. I absoulutley love Terrell McClain, and have him as my number 1 sleeper months ago, and expected him to move up to rd 3-4, and i also, couldent agree more about Mason Foster and Nate Solder.. Nate Solder is probably the pick i dont want the giants to make, the most... I see to many red flags, and feel like hes got the highest BUST chance, outta all the OT's... I'm also not huge on Ryan Williams, so i agree there.. I do dissagree about Kyle Rudolph, as i really like him,a nd think hes got the size/speed, and soft hands, and blocking technique, that will if he stays healthy, put him in the upper echelon of TE in the NFL a couple yrs down the line... And, i also think Jabaal Sheard is gonna be a terror, and i've seen him many times, and have said on here, i expect him to sneak into RD 1, or close to it, and be a amazing player for someone, on sundays... I've also mentioned Greg Salas, as far back as the 1st week of this past college football season, as a WR worth keeping a eye on...

                                some of the draft's top prospects becomes more prevalent.


                                Some prospects suffer from limited coverage, others are
                                over-projected because of misleading collegiate statistics, or
                                simply faulty scouting. There are dozens of players in this year's
                                draft being woefully overrated and underrated by the masses.




                                To try to set the record straight, I've spoken to the only true
                                experts in this field -- NFL scouts -- to try and determine the
                                most overrated and underrated players at each position. They
                                aren't claiming that an "overrated" player won't turn out to be a
                                good player, only that he may not be the sure-fire NFL star some
                                pegged him to be. On the flip side, "underrated" prospects, in the
                                opinion of scouts, aren't getting as much public recognition as
                                their talents warrant.



                                Defense



                                Defensive end



                                Overrated
                                Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson: Bowers
                                is the best all-around defensive end in this draft. To warrant a
                                top pick, a 4-3 defensive end needs to be an explosive pass
                                rusher. Despite leading the country with 15.5 sacks, Bowers lacks
                                the quick-twitch burst off the snap that typically translates to
                                double-digit sacks in the NFL. Without stout defensive tackles
                                running a variety of twists and stunts to free him up in the NFL
                                -- as 2011 defensive tackle prospect Jarvis Jenkins did at Clemson
                                -- I'd be surprised if Bowers ever reaches 10 sacks in a 16-game
                                NFL season.



                                Underrated
                                Jabaal Sheard, Pittsburgh: Sheard
                                isn't a traditional pass-rushing end -- a sudden athlete capable
                                of beating NFL-caliber offensive tackles with speed alone. Sheard
                                has a surprisingly strong bull rush at 6-3, 264 pounds, and has
                                shown consistent improvement throughout his career. Rather than
                                fall apart while facing double teams after "star" Greg Romeus went
                                down because of an injury, Sheard raised his game, earning the
                                Big East Defensive Player of the Year honors with 52 tackles, 14.5
                                tackles for loss, nine sacks and four forced fumbles. Sheard,
                                likely to be taken between picks 20-45, will be more productive as
                                a rookie than at least a few of the more highly touted defensive
                                ends of this draft.



                                Defensive tackle



                                Overrated
                                Nick Fairley, Auburn: I've
                                said it many times: Fairley might just be the most physically
                                gifted player in this draft. Three-hundred-pound defensive tackles
                                with his quick feet and hands are precisely what scouts are
                                looking for in a three-technique defensive tackle. He might be the
                                second coming of Warren Sapp. And yet, the maturity concerns are
                                very real. Some scouts believe Fairley might "turn off the motor"
                                once checks can be cashed, making him a considerable gamble as a
                                top-10 pick.



                                Underrated
                                Terrell McClain, South Florida: Short,
                                stout and quick, McClain quietly established himself as one of
                                the better "second tier" defensive tackles in this draft with
                                back-to-back impressive showings at the East-West Shrine Game and
                                as an injury replacement to Oregon State's Stephen Paea at the
                                Senior Bowl. Don't be surprised when this Bull is drafted in the
                                second or third round.



                                Outside linebacker



                                Overrated
                                Justin Houston, Georgia: The
                                fact that Houston keeps popping up in mock drafts is evidence
                                that some scouts are high on him. Yet, everyone with whom I've
                                discussed his pro potential has characterized him as one of the
                                draft's most overrated prospects. Houston lacks strength at the
                                point of attack as a defensive end and isn't quick off the snap as
                                a stand-up rusher (though he is quick from the three-point
                                stance). I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Houston wind up in
                                the first round, but as a classic 'tweener, he'll likely struggle
                                in the NFL.



                                Underrated
                                Mason Foster, Washington: Foster
                                finished second only to Boston College star Luke Kuechly in total
                                (163) and solo tackles (105) in 2010. Some of that production
                                stems from the fact that the Washington Huskies weren't a very
                                good defensive football team, so Foster racked up stops. The film
                                shows that Foster locates the ball quickly, uses his hands well to
                                slip blocks and is a reliable open-field tackler. He won't be
                                drafted until the middle rounds, but Foster will be tough to get
                                off the field once he gets his shot in the NFL.



                                Inside linebacker



                                Overrated
                                Martez Wilson, Illinois: Wilson
                                competes with Nevada outside linebacker Dontay Moch as this
                                year's most impressive workout warrior linebacker. Wilson
                                struggles locating the football, making him significantly slower
                                on the field than the 6-4, 250-pounder timed at the combine
                                (4.46-second electronic time). This is particularly troublesome
                                for Wilson considering he's played linebacker for three seasons
                                with the Illini, as opposed to Moch, who starred as a defensive
                                end. Wilson might measure like a first-rounder, but his tape says he's
                                closer to a third-round pick.



                                Underrated
                                Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina: Like
                                many of his Tar Heel teammates, Sturdivant did not have the 2010
                                season he anticipated. With an NCAA investigation and resulting
                                multiple suspensions jarring the program, Sturdivant was unable to
                                help on the field, losing five games to a hamstring pull. But he
                                returned to form upon coming back, racking up tackles (third on
                                the team with 49). He enjoyed a fitting end to his career,
                                intercepting a Tennessee pass on his final play to seal a 30-27
                                double-overtime Music City Bowl victory. Sturdivant isn't flashy,
                                but he'll prove to be a capable starter early in his career.



                                Cornerback



                                Overrated
                                Prince Amukamara, Nebraska: Amukamara
                                has proven throughout his career that he has the size,
                                physicality and athleticism to be a first-round pick. Most teams
                                believe that to warrant consideration as a top-10 pick, a
                                cornerback has to have elite ball skills. This is the area of
                                concern for Amukamara, despite the fact that he was a standout
                                running back in high school. Amukamara intercepted only five of
                                the 27 passes he broke up over his career. Oddly, all five
                                interceptions came during his junior season.



                                Underrated
                                Jalil Brown, Colorado: Overshadowed
                                throughout much of his career by teammate Jimmy Smith, Brown's
                                solid build (6-0, 204 pounds), speed and competitiveness make him a
                                quality middle-round prospect. A high-effort player who is
                                aggressive against the run, pass and on special teams, Brown might
                                not enter the NFL with a lot of fanfare, but could develop into a
                                quality starter within a year or two.



                                Safety



                                Overrated
                                FS Rahim Moore, UCLA: Having
                                led the NCAA with 10 interceptions in 2009, Moore probably was
                                planning on leaving school after his junior season. When his
                                production and overall play tailed off considerably in 2010,
                                however, he surprised some scouts by coming out early, anyway.
                                There is no denying Moore's athleticism. His coverage skills stand
                                out in this weak class and are likely enough to get him drafted
                                in the second round -- which could prove the highest selection for
                                any safety.



                                Underrated
                                SS Da'Norris Searcy, North Carolina: Searcy
                                might've been overlooked because of more-hyped teammates, but he
                                led North Carolina in passes broken up (nine) and interceptions
                                (four) despite the fact he was suspended for the first three
                                games. Searcy didn't get the playmaking opportunities at strong
                                safety that others had, yet proved his instincts and open-field
                                tackling skills were NFL-caliber throughout his career and at the
                                Senior Bowl. Searcy could be an immense value if allowed to slip
                                into the second half of the draft.



                                Offense



                                Quarterback



                                Overrated
                                Blaine Gabbert, Missouri: Gabbert
                                saw his production fall in his junior season and ended his career
                                throwing an interception that was returned by Iowa for the
                                winning points in the Insight Bowl. Scouts like Gabbert. The
                                problem is, no one seems to love him. That shouldn't happen for a
                                player expected to be a top five pick and possibly No. 1 overall.



                                Underrated
                                Ricky Stanzi, Iowa: Stanzi
                                -- Gabbert's opponent in the Insight Bowl -- checks in as the
                                most underrated. Stanzi is like a lot of the underrated players on
                                this list: better on tape than he's been in workouts. He has
                                ideal size (6-4, 223 pounds) and has made consistent improvement
                                throughout his career. Stanzi could prove quite the steal in the
                                middle rounds.



                                Running back



                                Overrated
                                Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech: Williams
                                enjoyed a marvelous 2009 season, but a hamstring kept him
                                sidelined for four games in 2010 and his statistics didn't meet
                                his or scouts expectations. Then he was shorter (5 feet, 9 inches)
                                and slower (electronically timed at 4.64 seconds) than expected
                                at the combine. He's viewed as a second-round pick who could give
                                first-round production. It is also possible that Williams, like
                                Kevin Jones and Lee Suggs before him, could struggle duplicating
                                his collegiate success at the NFL level.



                                Underrated
                                Graig Cooper, Miami (Fla.): Prior
                                to tearing his ACL on Dec. 27, 2009, against Wisconsin in the
                                Champs Sports Bowl, Cooper also was considered a second-round
                                pick. Cooper surprised many with the decision to play last season
                                rather than take a redshirt and clearly was not the same player.
                                However, he improved as the season went, including impressing at
                                the East-West Shrine Game. He demonstrated that his knee was sound
                                at the combine by passing physicals and turning in the fastest
                                time in the 3-cone drill of all running backs who tested (6.66
                                seconds). Cooper will slip on draft day, but will be considered a
                                steal in time.



                                Tight end



                                Overrated
                                Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame: Rudolph
                                has been characterized by some in the media as a clone of Rob
                                Gronkowski, the Patriots star rookie who slipped to the second
                                round because of concerns about the back injury that sidelined him
                                for his entire junior season. Like Gronkowski, Rudolph missed
                                extensive time in his junior season (torn hamstring). Rudolph,
                                however, isn't the same caliber of athlete or all-around football
                                player that Gronkowski is and owes some of his name recognition
                                simply to the fact that statistics and hype were easy to come by
                                when playing under Charlie Weis at Notre Dame.



                                Underrated
                                Rob Housler, Florida Atlantic: This
                                year's relatively weak crop of tight ends is highlighted by
                                several receiver hybrids with limited blocking skills. Unlike some
                                of the basketball converts in this class, Housler's rise to fame
                                is strictly due to his size, production and athleticism. The 6-5,
                                247-pound Housler's 4.55-second electronically timed 40-yard dash
                                translates onto the field, as does his potential as an in-line
                                blocker considering his 80-inch wingspan and 22 repetitions of 225
                                pounds. Had Housler earned his second-team all conference honors
                                (39 catches for 629 yards and four TDs) in the Pac-10 or Big Ten
                                rather than the Sun Belt, he wouldn't make it out of the second
                                round.



                                Wide receiver



                                Overrated
                                Titus Young, Boise State: I
                                hear the comparison of Young to DeSean Jackson and chuckle. They
                                are similar in that both played in the West, are considerably
                                lighter than most NFL receivers and left school with significant
                                off-field concerns. At 5-11, 174 pounds Young was electronically
                                timed at the 2011 combine at 4.49 seconds. At 5-10, 169 pounds
                                Jackson was clocked at 4.35 seconds in 2008. Some have pointed to
                                their return skills. Young was a standout kick returner for Boise
                                State, but his lack of bulk won't allow him to play that position
                                in the NFL and he returned only 11 punts in four seasons with the
                                Broncos. This, of course, is quite a bit different than the six
                                punt return touchdowns Jackson scored for California against
                                better competition.



                                Underrated
                                Greg Salas, Hawaii: Similar
                                to Young's teammate, Austin Pettis, in this role as his size,
                                strength and soft hands will make him a valuable receiver. Those
                                characteristics also aid Salas in the NFL. He struggled with drops
                                at the Senior Bowl, but scouts believe he was trying to make
                                plays before securing the pass, as his tape at Hawaii shows a
                                remarkably sure-handed receiver. There certainly is plenty of tape
                                to prove my point. Salas caught 285 passes for 4,345 yards and 26
                                touchdowns for Hawaii. Don't be surprised if Salas winds up in
                                the second or third round.



                                Offensive tackle



                                Overrated
                                Nate Solder, Colorado: Three
                                years from now Solder could wind up being the best offensive
                                tackle selected in this draft. He also could wind up a first-round
                                bust. It is easy to fall in love with Solder's upside, as the
                                6-8, 319-pounder has extraordinary athleticism. But he lost when
                                facing speed and power at the collegiate level and he'll see much
                                more of both in the NFL.



                                Underrated
                                James Carpenter, Alabama: I'm
                                not a big fan of this year's offensive tackle class. But the best
                                value in the draft could wind up being Carpenter, who I expect to
                                see drafted in the second round. Carpenter signed with Alabama as
                                a juco transfer and was immediately plugged in for former No. 6
                                overall pick Andre Smith at left tackle and started the rest of
                                his career. Carpenter doesn't have elite athleticism. He might not
                                be able to remain on the left side in the NFL, in fact, but he
                                can come in and win a starting job right now and has the work
                                ethic and physical toughness to start in this league for the next
                                10 years.



                                Offensive guard/center



                                Overrated
                                Mike Pouncey, Florida: The
                                unfortunate reality is that Mike is not quite as athletic as his
                                brother Maurkice, a rookie Pro Bowler for the AFC champion
                                Pittsburgh Steelers in 2010. Because they are identical twins, the
                                expectation of some is that Mike is going to come into the NFL
                                and enjoy the same type of immediate success. Those unrealistic
                                expectations make Pouncey, a solid player in his own right, a
                                touch overrated.



                                Underrated
                                Maurice Hurt, Florida: There
                                are two significant reasons why Hurt hasn't received more
                                attention. For one, he plays on the same line as Mike Pouncey and
                                two other senior Gator offensive linemen who could get drafted, so
                                credit was tough to come by. Secondly, he has a bad body. Quite
                                frankly, the 6-2 5/8, 318-pounder is round. That said, he has
                                surprisingly long arms for his frame (third among all interior OL
                                tested at the combine), which the tape proves he uses well in pass
                                protection and in the running game. Don't be surprised when Hurt
                                is drafted on the third day of the draft, but he winds up
                                outperforming some prospects taken much earlier.


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