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  • #16
    Only defensive positions worth a 1st rd pick is CB (dennard from mich st) or a DE/pass rushing LB

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    • #17
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnHvztk1W3o

      looks good, I think they should take the best defensive player available

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Evo'Ed View Post
        If Mack & Mosley are available for us @12, who do you like?

        Admittedly, I don't watch much CFB so I've only seen Mack on youtube and some during his bowl game, but this kid Mack has been talked about a bunch (Walterfootball.com has him mocked to us).
        Mack.. Helps with the pass rush issues also, would be a very good Sam LB in this D

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        • #19
          Mack would be my first choice. Then I'd go BPA at either OL, CB, or LB. As long as the o-lineman is a tackle. Would never waste a first rd pick on a guard or center. Hopefully Reese can fix the o-line through free agency so we can get a playmaker on either side of the ball. With this draft we should get an absolute stud. I think this is a deep draft and very top heavy.

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          • #20
            Mosley would disappoint me.

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            • #21
              Unless LB Anthony Barr is there at 12 I'd take the best OL available. That is our biggest weakness right now.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                Mosley would disappoint me.
                elaborate---what is it that you don't like about him? You think is not suited for certain schemes? overhyped because he played at Bama?

                I agree with others that the Giants need to address the LB position. Mack, Barr and Mosley seem to be the top LBs mentioned by posters. Personally I like Shazier from Ohio St, but maybe not at the #12 spot.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tonyt830 View Post
                  elaborate---what is it that you don't like about him? You think is not suited for certain schemes? overhyped because he played at Bama?

                  I agree with others that the Giants need to address the LB position. Mack, Barr and Mosley seem to be the top LBs mentioned by posters. Personally I like Shazier from Ohio St, but maybe not at the #12 spot.


                  I just don't think a non pass rushing LB is very valuable in the first round especially top 15. Not unless they are a rare player, like a Kuechly or Willis. Mosley is a good player, but in my opinion he's a late first or early 2nd round type.

                  Mack to me is similar. He could be worth a top 15 pick if you think his skill set translates into a pass rusher on third downs. If his skill set takes him off the field on passing downs then he isn't a first rounder, IMO


                  I've said many times that Shazier is my favorite player in this draft. But he's a 2nd rounder.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    I just don't think a non pass rushing LB is very valuable in the first round especially top 15. Not unless they are a rare player, like a Kuechly or Willis. Mosley is a good player, but in my opinion he's a late first or early 2nd round type.

                    Mack to me is similar. He could be worth a top 15 pick if you think his skill set translates into a pass rusher on third downs. If his skill set takes him off the field on passing downs then he isn't a first rounder, IMO


                    I've said many times that Shazier is my favorite player in this draft. But he's a 2nd rounder.
                    fair enough---thanks

                    Do you think Shazier is available when the Giants draft in the 2nd rd? I have the same liken for Shazier this year that I had for Arthur Brown last year.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by gmen43 View Post
                      Only defensive positions worth a 1st rd pick is CB (dennard from mich st) or a DE/pass rushing LB
                      Not true. Louis Nix will be excellent, and well worth a 1st round pick (though possibly not for us).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tonyt830 View Post
                        fair enough---thanks

                        Do you think Shazier is available when the Giants draft in the 2nd rd? I have the same liken for Shazier this year that I had for Arthur Brown last year.
                        I hope so. He's the kind of player you never really know where he will go. Lavonte david was a similar type of guy.

                        Those weakside LB types generally fall further than people expect.

                        The bigger question to me is would the giants even draft him in the 2nd if he is there?

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                        • #27
                          Mosley is one of the main guys I want.
                          2017 Mock Draft (Pre-combine / FA):

                          Rd 1: OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
                          Rd 2: Tanoh Kpassagnon (DE, Villanova)
                          Rd 3: Antonio Garcia (OT, Troy)
                          Rd 4: Samaje Perine (RB, Oklahoma)
                          Rd 5: Davis Webb (QB, Cal)
                          Rd 6: Ahkello Witherspoon (CB, Colorado)
                          Rd 7: DJ Jones (DT, Ole Miss)

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                          • #28
                            I would be happy with Mosley/Mack/Barr if they don't go with lb. I hope they go OL.
                            Been lurking for years.....

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