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  • Giants' NFL Draft: OL Zack Martin Works His Way Into Top 15 Mix?

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...op_15_mix.html

    Excerpt: "Offensive linemen, offensive linemen, offensive linemen. That's all you seem to want for the Giants in the NFL Draft.

    Can't blame you. The Giants only have one lineman that can be penciled in as a starter for next season.

    So, not surprisingly, you sent me back for more. Over 71 percent of your votes were for me to watch the two offensive lineman choices closely during Wednesday’s Senior Bowl practice.

    But the winner in the voting and with his play on the field was Notre Dame offensive tackle Zack Martin. He had his third straight strong day of work in Mobile.

    Calling Martin an offensive tackle may be a misrepresentation when all is said and done. The 6-foot-4, 305-pound lineman rotated between left tackle and left guard on Wednesday. He looked fluid at both positions.

    Here's what I saw:

    Pros: Excellent technique and good footwork. Always seems to be balanced and with a strong base. Not a mauler but has sufficient power. Light on his feet and able to handle some speed around the edge. Plays low and uses his hands well to fight off pass rushers both on the outside and inside.

    Cons: Not a premium athlete for a left tackle. Could struggle with top athletes on the professional level. Sufficient but not excellent strength. Could be susceptible to bull rushes. Short arms." Read more...
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  • #2
    my favorite Martin.. best interior lineman in this draft, possible OT if Beatty is still hurting.... or sucks again

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
      http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...op_15_mix.html

      Excerpt: "Offensive linemen, offensive linemen, offensive linemen. That's all you seem to want for the Giants in the NFL Draft.

      Can't blame you. The Giants only have one lineman that can be penciled in as a starter for next season.

      So, not surprisingly, you sent me back for more. Over 71 percent of your votes were for me to watch the two offensive lineman choices closely during Wednesday’s Senior Bowl practice.

      But the winner in the voting and with his play on the field was Notre Dame offensive tackle Zack Martin. He had his third straight strong day of work in Mobile.

      Calling Martin an offensive tackle may be a misrepresentation when all is said and done. The 6-foot-4, 305-pound lineman rotated between left tackle and left guard on Wednesday. He looked fluid at both positions.

      Here's what I saw:

      Pros: Excellent technique and good footwork. Always seems to be balanced and with a strong base. Not a mauler but has sufficient power. Light on his feet and able to handle some speed around the edge. Plays low and uses his hands well to fight off pass rushers both on the outside and inside.

      Cons: Not a premium athlete for a left tackle. Could struggle with top athletes on the professional level. Sufficient but not excellent strength. Could be susceptible to bull rushes. Short arms." Read more...
      I dont see an elite talent player when I watch Martin on tape. If im taking a Guard high he better run over people. I get that from Greg Robinson dont get that from Martin

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      • #4
        I don't think versatility pushes any lineman into the top 15. You're either confident he is a starter at one position [left tackle] or not. I know people will reference Pugh, but the draft classes and position are hardly comparable.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
          I dont see an elite talent player when I watch Martin on tape. If im taking a Guard high he better run over people. I get that from Greg Robinson dont get that from Martin
          Was just going to post something similar. I don't get the "wow" factor from him. Even though I didn't like DJ Fluker last year, you could see the mean streak and upside. I'm not so sure with Martin. The pick would be very meh imo anywhere for him in the top 15.
          "You killed my family, and I don't like that kind of thing."

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          • #6
            Can't we just have one OL who IS a mauler????

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            • #7
              Originally posted by titwio View Post
              Was just going to post something similar. I don't get the "wow" factor from him. Even though I didn't like DJ Fluker last year, you could see the mean streak and upside. I'm not so sure with Martin. The pick would be very meh imo anywhere for him in the top 15.
              I would say Pughs college tape was better

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              • #8
                I like Martin, but definitely not at 12. I would take him at 44, though.

                We need a game-changer at 12, in my opinion. I'm hoping we can fill most of our OL woes in free agency.

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                • #9
                  I like Martin, but he's kind of redundant with Pugh already. I don't think he's going to be a guard despite what draftniks say. He's like Pugh, he's played tackle all along and been good at it, no saying he'd be a better guard. I'd much rather we target Gabe Jackson in the 2nd if we're looking for a guard, no need to over draft a tackle to transition to guard, when pure guards can be had for less.

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                  • #10
                    If JR goes o-line in the 1st and Kouandjio, Lewan and Martin are the best available.. How do you rank them?

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                    • #11
                      Right now it would be Lewan, Martin, Kouandjio. Kouandjio is a wild card though, think Tyron Smith ceiling, the question is though how do you weigh the risk reward of him reaching that ceiling, because he needs a lot of coaching.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                        Can't we just have one OL who IS a mauler????
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                        • #13
                          Is Snee a mauler? He worked out pretty good..

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by penguinfarmer View Post
                            I don't think versatility pushes any lineman into the top 15. You're either confident he is a starter at one position [left tackle] or not. I know people will reference Pugh, but the draft classes and position are hardly comparable.
                            I disagree.. with Pugh as the only lock as a week 1 starter on the roster.. I think being versatile is huge, but he's projected at guard in the NFL..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                              I dont see an elite talent player when I watch Martin on tape. If im taking a Guard high he better run over people. I get that from Greg Robinson dont get that from Martin
                              I totally agree with your post. I've watched almost every ND game this year and while he definitely seems like a solid player doesn't jump out at me. Especially with the 12th pick I wouldn't touch him. Greg Robinson I'd like at 12. He can play guard and tackle. Very athletic and at G he can be a mauler there.

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