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  • Makin Plays
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    Top 5 Wishlist

    Who is your top 5 for the first round? I'm assuming Clowney's off the board and we're not looking QB.

    Based on the player profiles at http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft I'm gonna go with:

    1. Sammy Watkins WR
    2. jake Mathews OT
    3. Anthony Barr OLB
    4. Greg Robinson OT
    5. Khalil Mack OLB

    Would also love to get Darqueze Dennard CB, or Jace Amaro TE. What are your thoughts?

  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by BleedingBlue123 View Post
    I've watched about 6 game highlights of Gilbert -- that's all I've got to base my opinion on.

    What I like the most about him is his overall athleticism --- size, speed, hands and vision as a runner with the ball in his hands.

    I particularly like that he is very aggressive on short crossing patterns and also that he seems to have an extra gear and rarely gets beat deep.

    I do wonder if he likes to tackle -- didn't see much tackling from him and per one scouting summary I saw on him he does seem to tackle too high sometimes (at the pads) rather than the knees/thighs.

    Also saw him play-up and play-off coverage and he seemed fine in both positions.

    He's a top 15 (some top 11) on most boards/mocks I've seen --- most have him rated about Dennard and I think it's the overall athleticism that separates them (from what I've seen).
    Hes built for Man in the NFL. At that size, with those long arms and athletic ability, and overall physicality , hes gonna be able to stick with just about any WR in the league. I see him as a poor mans Patrick Peterson personally.

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  • BleedingBlue123
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    He is very physical. Hes gonna run fine at the combine. I'd say a 4.50 or 4.48, somewhere in that range. He disengages off blocks well because of his size/strength. Hes also very instinctive.
    I've watched about 6 game highlights of Gilbert -- that's all I've got to base my opinion on.

    What I like the most about him is his overall athleticism --- size, speed, hands and vision as a runner with the ball in his hands.

    I particularly like that he is very aggressive on short crossing patterns and also that he seems to have an extra gear and rarely gets beat deep.

    I do wonder if he likes to tackle -- didn't see much tackling from him and per one scouting summary I saw on him he does seem to tackle too high sometimes (at the pads) rather than the knees/thighs.

    Also saw him play-up and play-off coverage and he seemed fine in both positions.

    He's a top 15 (some top 11) on most boards/mocks I've seen --- most have him rated about Dennard and I think it's the overall athleticism that separates them (from what I've seen).

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Mlerman17 View Post
    I don't see much physicality from him. It seems to me that he plays off man most of the time and IMO is far from shut down. However, he does have the size and raw athleticisim, but I'm not sure how he will run at the combine.
    He is very physical. Hes gonna run fine at the combine. I'd say a 4.50 or 4.48, somewhere in that range. He disengages off blocks well because of his size/strength. Hes also very instinctive.

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  • Mlerman17
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Sure. Hes a big, physical CB with speed, doubles as a outstanding return man, has long arms, athletic.. With his jumping ability and length, makes it very hard to put one over the top of em as he can get his hands on balls smaller, less athletic corners can't.. He consistently shut down WRs in man coverege. Theres alot of positives to his game.
    I don't see much physicality from him. It seems to me that he plays off man most of the time and IMO is far from shut down. However, he does have the size and raw athleticisim, but I'm not sure how he will run at the combine.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by BleedingBlue123 View Post
    Yes - I'm leaning towards Gilbert at #12.

    Keep hoping we fix guard/center & RB in free agency.

    Then adding Gilbert opposite Prince at #12 would really give us a great looking secondary with Gilbert/Prince/Hosley & Rolle/Hill/Brown.

    In Gilbert/Prince/Hill we could have 3 young dynamic/impact secondary players.

    Then maybe at #44 -- you could grab a TE who fits the new system and provides Eli with someone to work the middle of the field & red-zone with size. Hopefully either the Texas Tech (Amaro) or the U-Washington (Sepherin-Jenkins) kids fall and are available at #44. Not sure how highly folks think of the N-Dame TE.

    Then in 3rd and 4th you address RB (again) and LB/OL depth.
    Sounds like a solid enough plan to me. I think theres a few diffrent ways to attack the offseason and i woulden't be against this idea at all..

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Mlerman17 View Post
    Can someone breakdown their love affair with Gilbert? I don't understand the hype.
    Sure. Hes a big, physical CB with speed, doubles as a outstanding return man, has long arms, athletic.. With his jumping ability and length, makes it very hard to put one over the top of em as he can get his hands on balls smaller, less athletic corners can't.. He consistently shut down WRs in man coverege. Theres alot of positives to his game.

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  • NYGfanSTRICK
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    Originally posted by Mlerman17 View Post
    Can someone breakdown their love affair with Gilbert? I don't understand the hype.
    Maybe seeing a highlight like this? I am a big fan of him but I still like Dennard better just because he is a complete CB IMO. Gilbert is more of a play maker but he isn't as physical. Gilbert is taller which also makes him intriguing as well. He can return kicks like crazy also.

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  • Mlerman17
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    Can someone breakdown their love affair with Gilbert? I don't understand the hype.

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  • titwio
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Gilbert is right up there with Dennard for me, but hes starting to tip the scale in his direction alittle. Just listening to McShay rave about em and him smoking the other CB's in the Skills competiton and then his interview after(he was really well spoken and seems like a focused young man and very competitive), has him ever so slightly ahead of Dennard(had em tied) for the time being. Hes gonna be a stud!
    Preach!

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  • BleedingBlue123
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Gilbert is right up there with Dennard for me, but hes starting to tip the scale in his direction alittle. Just listening to McShay rave about em and him smoking the other CB's in the Skills competiton and then his interview after(he was really well spoken and seems like a focused young man and very competitive), has him ever so slightly ahead of Dennard(had em tied) for the time being. Hes gonna be a stud!
    Yes - I'm leaning towards Gilbert at #12.

    Keep hoping we fix guard/center & RB in free agency.

    Then adding Gilbert opposite Prince at #12 would really give us a great looking secondary with Gilbert/Prince/Hosley & Rolle/Hill/Brown.

    In Gilbert/Prince/Hill we could have 3 young dynamic/impact secondary players.

    Then maybe at #44 -- you could grab a TE who fits the new system and provides Eli with someone to work the middle of the field & red-zone with size. Hopefully either the Texas Tech (Amaro) or the U-Washington (Sepherin-Jenkins) kids fall and are available at #44. Not sure how highly folks think of the N-Dame TE.

    Then in 3rd and 4th you address RB (again) and LB/OL depth.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by gabriel_1 View Post
    1. Greg Robinson
    2. Justin Gilbert
    3. Mike Evans
    4. Darqueze Dennard
    5. Zack Martin
    Gilbert is right up there with Dennard for me, but hes starting to tip the scale in his direction alittle. Just listening to McShay rave about em and him smoking the other CB's in the Skills competiton and then his interview after(he was really well spoken and seems like a focused young man and very competitive), has him ever so slightly ahead of Dennard(had em tied) for the time being. Hes gonna be a stud!

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  • gabriel_1
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    1. Greg Robinson
    2. Justin Gilbert
    3. Mike Evans
    4. Darqueze Dennard
    5. Zack Martin

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  • gabriel_1
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    1. Greg Robinson
    2. Justin Gilbert
    3. Mike Evans
    4. Darqueze Dennard
    5. Zack Martin

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  • BleedingBlue123
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    The only reason he wasen't all ready in the 1st rd rising at the Sr Bowl was his size, which was hindering em alittle bit despite the strength he showed in game film(scouts and gurus are picky), and then he dismantled the comp all wk at the SR BOWL and answered that question and is now perdicted as a 1st rder(i'm quoted as saying he was gonna be a mid 1st rder by draft day a month or more ago with Donald), and when he kills the combine, specifically the Bench and 40 and drills, his stock gonna gonna fly even higher.. Its clear as day this kids got something special. Hes following his alma mater brethren Aldon Smith into the next echelon of NFL stud defender.. Just watch where this kids stock is by draft day..
    Ok - I liked what I saw at the SB during the week --- he was pretty unblockable. Me myself -- would shy away from his size at that position as a high 1st round pick. I see him as a 25-32 range pick in the 1st round.

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