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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mr.TRUEBLUE View Post
    Matter of fact I like your draft better than mine "Strick" in rounds 4 to 7

    I filled mine out before the Jennings signing that's why I slipped a RB in the 4th. However if Andre Brown doesn't resign we may just take a RB of Andre Williams caliber in 4th or 5th
    There are a ton of solid RB's that can be had in rounds 4-7. There is Andre Williams like you said and there are guys like Storm Johnson, James White, Jerrick McKinnon, James Wilder Jr, Jerome Smith, Possibly Terrance West. Those are a few guys I like in those rounds
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    Mock Draft
    1st) O.J Howard TE Bama 2nd) D. Walker DE F.S.U 3rd) S. Perine RB Oklahoma
    4th) E. Magnuson OT/OG Mich 5th) J. Replogle DT Purde
    6th) Fred Ross WR Miss St 7th) J. Reeves-Maybin LB Tenn
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    Strick's 2015 All-Sleeper Team - http://boards.giants.com/showthread....t=sleeper+team

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mr.TRUEBLUE View Post
      Niklas can be had in 2nd if we want to go lineman Lewan, Martin or late 1st if we want to trade down

      Niklas is a better blocker , less of a "star" and "reciever like diva" than Ebron and more of a team guy



      1. TAYLOR LEWAN - LEFT OUTSIDE GUARD

      2. TROY NIKLAUS - OFFENSIVE END

      3. EGO FURGERSON - DEFENSIVE NOSE TACKLE

      4. ANDRE WILLIAMS - RUNNING BACKS

      5. TYLER LARSEN - CENTER GUARD

      6. MAX BULLOUGH - LINEBACKERS

      7. TEVIN REECE - FLANKER/KICK RETURNER
      Stop BSing. How is he a diva? Seems like a great guy to me.

      http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...-nfl-tight-end

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mr.TRUEBLUE View Post
        Niklas can be had in 2nd if we want to go lineman Lewan, Martin or late 1st if we want to trade down

        Niklas is a better blocker , less of a "star" and "reciever like diva" than Ebron and more of a team guy



        1. TAYLOR LEWAN - LEFT OUTSIDE GUARD

        2. TROY NIKLAUS - OFFENSIVE END

        3. EGO FURGERSON - DEFENSIVE NOSE TACKLE

        4. ANDRE WILLIAMS - RUNNING BACKS

        5. TYLER LARSEN - CENTER GUARD

        6. MAX BULLOUGH - LINEBACKERS

        7. TEVIN REECE - FLANKER/KICK RETURNER
        Lewan is a longshot to be drafted by the Giants in the first because of character issues. The Giants tend to avoid those players in the first round.

        And the Giants don't have a pick in the 7th round. They gave that away to the Panthers in the Beason trade.
        One of these teams is not like the others

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        • #19
          Change mine a bit ..I think DE James Gayle is a true sleeper. And RB Andre Williams normally a 2nd or 3rd injuries can push him back to 5th or 6th




          1. TAYLOR LEWAN - LEFT OUTSIDE GUARD

          2. TROY NIKLAUS - OFFENSIVE END

          3. EGO FURGERSON - DEFENSIVE NOSE TACKLE

          4. JAMES GAYLE - SLEEPER @ DEFENSIVE ENDS

          5. ANDRE WILLIAMS - RUNNING BACKS

          6. TEVIN REECE - FLANKER/KICK RETURNER

          7. traded away



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          • #20
            Originally posted by NYGfanSTRICK View Post
            I woud like something like this

            1st- Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh
            2nd- Troy Niklas TE Norte Dame
            3rd- Stanley Jean-Baptiste
            4th- Brian Stork C Florida St
            5th- Chris Watt OG Norte Dame
            6th- Khairi Fortt OLB Cal
            DT in the first round? That would not be very smart.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by moosedrool View Post
              DT in the first round? That would not be very smart.
              When the guy plays like this then I have absolutely no problem with it. Here are his highlights from last season

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              ________________________________________________________
              Mock Draft
              1st) O.J Howard TE Bama 2nd) D. Walker DE F.S.U 3rd) S. Perine RB Oklahoma
              4th) E. Magnuson OT/OG Mich 5th) J. Replogle DT Purde
              6th) Fred Ross WR Miss St 7th) J. Reeves-Maybin LB Tenn
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              Strick's 2015 All-Sleeper Team - http://boards.giants.com/showthread....t=sleeper+team

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mr.TRUEBLUE View Post
                We are fine at receiver. You mean to tell me Handle, Cruz, Jennigan and either Kenny Britt or Miles Austin isn't suffice? user:gibril28wilson?
                well look what you said in there, sign Britt or Austin. that would be signing another WR and if we did that then no, i think wed be fine. we have 3 WRs under contract right now if we dont sign or draft another, then yes i believe wed be seriously screwed at that position

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                • #23
                  I would say that Niklas at #44 is a better value than Ebron at #12

                  Gilbert #12
                  Niklas #44

                  That would be ok with me --- still kind of hoping for Gilbert and Shazier 1 and 2.

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                  • #24
                    Only problem with Donald "Strick" is he is undersized 6'1" and light 285 and we just lost a BIG MAN in middle in Linval who was 6'4" 330 pounder



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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mr.TRUEBLUE View Post
                      Niklas can be had in 2nd if we want to go lineman Lewan, Martin or late 1st if we want to trade down

                      Niklas is a better blocker , less of a "star" and "reciever like diva" than Ebron and more of a team guy



                      1. TAYLOR LEWAN - LEFT OUTSIDE GUARD

                      2. TROY NIKLAUS - OFFENSIVE END

                      3. EGO FURGERSON - DEFENSIVE NOSE TACKLE

                      4. JAMES GAYLE - SLEEPER @ DEFENSIVE ENDS

                      5. ANDRE WILLIAMS - RUNNING BACKS

                      6. MAX BULLOUGH - LINEBACKERS

                      7. TEVIN REECE - FLANKER/KICK RETURNER
                      How come anytime a TE is labeled “athletically gifted” people automatically assume they cannot block? Have you ever watched Ebron play? He is a good blocker, at worst. The kid is a physical specimen, has the body to put on more pounds, and can always improve on any little aspect he may not be “great” at.

                      Your arguments are not only incorrect, they're based off of not factual information whatsoever. Nikklas is a better team player?? Less of a "star"???

                      The Giants do not need a stereotypical “blocking” TE. We need someone who can put pressure on the middle of the field and cause mismatches against defenses LB’s and Safeties. We also need a player who can take pressure off of the WR’s on the outside.

                      I don’t know much about Nikklas from Notre Dame, and for all I know he could be great. But Ebron isn’t your every year coming into the draft type TE. He has the size, athleticism, hands, speed and quickness to be a true weapon on any offense. He will make an IMMEDIATE impact on our offense.

                      You also make a solid argument that Nikklas is "Notre Dame too." Well, Ebron is UNC, and as much as I hate to admit it as an NC State fan, UNC has offered a lot more talent to the NFL in recent years than Notre Dame has. Your points are invalid based off of nothing.

                      Have you ever watched Ebron?
                      NFL Draft (Realistic Hope):

                      Rd 1
                      Garrett Bolles - OT
                      David Njoku - TE
                      Zach Cunningham - OLB

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by NYGfanSTRICK View Post
                        I woud like something like this

                        1st- Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh
                        2nd- Troy Niklas TE Norte Dame
                        3rd- Stanley Jean-Baptiste
                        4th- Brian Stork C Florida St
                        5th- Chris Watt OG Norte Dame
                        6th- Khairi Fortt OLB Cal
                        beautiful!!

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                        • #27
                          Niklas might be there for us in the 3rd actually and does it all well. Ebron is certainly more polished running about which would be cool given this new west coast "style" offense. Niklas or C.J. Fidorwitskicavage would be a nice fit here.

                          I wouldn't hate the pick, if it has to be him, move back a few spots.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by gibril28wilson View Post
                            if thats the Giants draft...we better sign a WR and CB soon or else were screwed lol
                            Vtctor Cruz and Steve Smith together would tear up the NFC East and most of the NFL. Smith was the Panthers only receiver threat and had 2-3 men on him most of the time.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mr.TRUEBLUE View Post
                              We are fine at receiver. You mean to tell me Handle, Cruz, Jennigan and either Kenny Britt or Miles Austin isn't suffice? user:gibril28wilson?
                              Did I miss the sarcasm? Cruz is slot, we need a 1 and 2 and at least one of them needs to be a threat or Cruz pulls double all day. Randle has shown signs of hope but has not had that break-thru performance of a year yet so we are still left wondering if he's got it. Jernigan (not Jennigan) better do something good soon, and Britt n Austin aren't giants yet and would require their own ambulance each on the sideline.
                              2017 Draft Wishlist:
                              1. Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
                              2. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
                              3. Roderick Johnson OT Florida State
                              4. Jordan Leggett TE Clemson
                              5. Ryan Glasgow DT Michegan
                              6. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
                              7. Billy Brown WR Shepherd

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