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  • Analyzing Kiper 3.0 : Giants

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-gia...espnapi_public

    Excerpt: "Now, this is more like it. After assigning the New York Giants an inside linebacker at the No. 12 overall pick in his first two mock drafts of 2014, ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. has altered his most recent mock Insider and now has the Giants selecting North Carolina tight end Eric Ebron.

    Even if the Giants had taken a linebacker in the first round since 1984 (which they have not), the re-signing of Jon Beason makes a pick of Alabama's C.J. Mosley unlikely. Ebron, however, makes a ton of sense.

    The free-agent market at tight end is underwhelming, and the Giants have been getting by for too long with one-year stopgap solutions at tight end. That bit them in 2013, when Brandon Myers flopped, and it's time to address the position for the long-term. Ebron is, by all accounts, an instant difference-maker and a freakish athlete who could enable the Giants to do things at the tight end position they haven't been able to do since the heyday of Jeremy Shockey. Eli Manning needs weapons on offense, and Ebron would give him a versatile one." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    1. Lewan, 2. Ebron, 3. Dennard...
    sigpicShould the Giants fire Gilbride....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONL7L...yer_detailpage

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    • #3
      Is everyone ok with the 12th selection being a TE with questionable blocking skills? Sure, he's an weapon running around that we could select mid/late 1st. Or grab another in the 2nd or 3rd.

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      • #4
        Aaron Donald please. Could you imagine the potential of a Aaron Donald, Jason Pierre Paul, Damontre Moore, and Jonathan Hankins Dline? Thats the Giants way!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by STAR View Post
          Is everyone ok with the 12th selection being a TE with questionable blocking skills? Sure, he's an weapon running around that we could select mid/late 1st. Or grab another in the 2nd or 3rd.
          His blocking isn't questionable. He's a fine blocker, but he's an exceptional weapon, so people assume he can't block. He's a big guy, with room to add weight, and is a fine blocker with room to improve. Yes, I'd be ecstatic to get him at 12.
          NFL Draft (Realistic Hope):

          Rd 1
          Garrett Bolles - OT
          David Njoku - TE
          Zach Cunningham - OLB

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          • #6
            Piddy, he'd better be special. Balls thrown here come very high, low and behind quite often.

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            • #7
              Ha! Well said. Now that you've put it that way.......
              NFL Draft (Realistic Hope):

              Rd 1
              Garrett Bolles - OT
              David Njoku - TE
              Zach Cunningham - OLB

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              • #8
                Posted a thread yesterday re picking him at 12. His blocking is suspect but as I pointed out he was not tested very much on the line. North Carolina split him out in most sets. The upside to him is that he is a 3 down TE so when they break the huddle the defense has to play honest against both run and pass in early downs. I believe he will be a good NFL player, some experts say he can be great. I just think its time to get a guy that Eli can spot over the middle that has proven that he can get seperation.

                Unless a real stud falls to them like Barr

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                  Aaron Donald please. Could you imagine the potential of a Aaron Donald, Jason Pierre Paul, Damontre Moore, and Jonathan Hankins Dline? Thats the Giants way!
                  +1

                  my top 3 are.. Donald, Evans & Gilbert

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                  • #10
                    Kipers a complete toolbag. I'd glady take Ebron tho.
                    2017 Draft Wishlist:
                    1. Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
                    2. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
                    3. Roderick Johnson OT Florida State
                    4. Jordan Leggett TE Clemson
                    5. Ryan Glasgow DT Michegan
                    6. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
                    7. Billy Brown WR Shepherd

                    sigpic
                    "Behold, the tailgate party. The pinnacle of human achievement. Since the dawn of parking lots, man has sought to fill his gut with food and alcohol in anticipation of watching others exercise."
                    - Homer J. Simpson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                      Aaron Donald please. Could you imagine the potential of a Aaron Donald, Jason Pierre Paul, Damontre Moore, and Jonathan Hankins Dline? Thats the Giants way!
                      As much as I like that line, there also lies the problem. Do we go for something like that and neglect other areas of concern, or try to put a patch on all the holes? This draft is unlike the last few years IMO because of all the needs and question marks.. CB, TE, WR, DE, OT, RB, and I'm not sold at OLB. There's just so many holes. I'm hoping some guys will step it up but I thought the same thing last year. All I can say is we have quite a few needs so as long as we select decent players, I don't think the position chosen will be a disappointment.
                      2017 Draft Wishlist:
                      1. Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
                      2. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
                      3. Roderick Johnson OT Florida State
                      4. Jordan Leggett TE Clemson
                      5. Ryan Glasgow DT Michegan
                      6. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
                      7. Billy Brown WR Shepherd

                      sigpic
                      "Behold, the tailgate party. The pinnacle of human achievement. Since the dawn of parking lots, man has sought to fill his gut with food and alcohol in anticipation of watching others exercise."
                      - Homer J. Simpson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                        Aaron Donald please. Could you imagine the potential of a Aaron Donald, Jason Pierre Paul, Damontre Moore, and Jonathan Hankins Dline? Thats the Giants way!
                        Yeah but what good is a stout defensive line if we can't score any points? We couldn't score any points last year and that was with Nicks and Andre Brown. I think we need some kind of big time playmaker in the first round. Either Ebron or Evans...

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                        • #13
                          With the mass amounts of FA we've picked up on the OL (plus the fact that Killdrive is gone), I wouldn't mind Ebron as much. We won't be so blocking-dependent on the TE and RB. If our OL can hold 4 or 5 man pressure by itself, that opens up the field for guys like Ebron or Wilson to work wonders in the passing game.

                          I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by STAR View Post
                            Is everyone ok with the 12th selection being a TE with questionable blocking skills? Sure, he's an weapon running around that we could select mid/late 1st. Or grab another in the 2nd or 3rd.
                            Questionable blocking skills or not I don't want a TE with the 12 th pick.
                            " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                              Aaron Donald please. Could you imagine the potential of a Aaron Donald, Jason Pierre Paul, Damontre Moore, and Jonathan Hankins Dline? Thats the Giants way!
                              I can only.dream. He's going to be special.
                              " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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