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  • #46
    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Its a good pick for the Browns for sure because they have been such an awful franchise. That team is actually pretty close to being very good all they need is just competent QB play. Manziel can be competent but his game as its currently constructed is not going to be successful. Is Manziel going to allow himself to be coached because that will make or break him in my opinion. He got away with things at A&M he will never get away with in the NFL those decisions will get a young QB benched " Should of got ELi benched 2 to be honest".
    Manziels ability to make plays with his feet will be severely hampered in the NFL he is no longer faster then the Linebackers or DE's on the edge. While Manziel does possess good speed for a QB its not game changing like RG3 or Vick. Everyone on the field minus the DT's will be able to catch him. Without that threat to run will he be able to succeed will be totally up to him and the work he puts into changing his game to adapt.
    Manziel has always relied heavily on his instincts which he probably still will in the NFL.. I can see him making plays no other even thinks to make because you can't be coached to make them kinda plays..

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    • #47
      Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
      Manziel has always relied heavily on his instincts which he probably still will in the NFL.. I can see him making plays no other even thinks to make because you can't be coached to make them kinda plays..
      Trying thise kinds of plays against pros can get you injured very quickly. He is probably going to have to learn to control himself a lot more. Athelicism in a QB is great but they have to do most of their work from the pocket to have consistent success.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
        Its a good pick for the Browns for sure because they have been such an awful franchise. That team is actually pretty close to being very good all they need is just competent QB play. Manziel can be competent but his game as its currently constructed is not going to be successful. Is Manziel going to allow himself to be coached because that will make or break him in my opinion. He got away with things at A&M he will never get away with in the NFL those decisions will get a young QB benched " Should of got ELi benched 2 to be honest".
        Manziels ability to make plays with his feet will be severely hampered in the NFL he is no longer faster then the Linebackers or DE's on the edge. While Manziel does possess good speed for a QB its not game changing like RG3 or Vick. Everyone on the field minus the DT's will be able to catch him. Without that threat to run will he be able to succeed will be totally up to him and the work he puts into changing his game to adapt.
        This is my opinion as well. Manziel looks at his first option and then takes off. He's not as athletic as Vick or RG3. He will either get injured or throw a pick

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        • #49
          Originally posted by kingcap88 View Post
          It's kind of embarrassing if a player has to text a team and tell them to draft him as he's sliding down the draft board, especially when that team had already passed him up the first time.
          This. +1
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          • #50
            Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
            Manziel has always relied heavily on his instincts which he probably still will in the NFL.. I can see him making plays no other even thinks to make because you can't be coached to make them kinda plays..
            Except he no longer has the physical advantage he had to make those plays. Manziel will now be slower than the edge players that are keeping him in the pocket

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
              Except he no longer has the physical advantage he had to make those plays. Manziel will now be slower than the edge players that are keeping him in the pocket
              And he is also much smaller now that he is in the pros.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by DSP View Post
                Trying thise kinds of plays against pros can get you injured very quickly. He is probably going to have to learn to control himself a lot more. Athelicism in a QB is great but they have to do most of their work from the pocket to have consistent success.
                Yes it always amazed me now the kid slithered out of trouble. Bout to take big hits and he always seemed to manage to just get the enough the eye of the needle without getting clobbered.

                That won't happen in the NFL? Remember he is compared to Tarkenton. However Fran played in a different era. The NFL players today are bigger stronger and way faster then in those days and for that reason he will get demolished rather then duplicate what Tarkenton did
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                But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

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                Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                  Yes it always amazed me now the kid slithered out of trouble. Bout to take big hits and he always seemed to manage to just get the enough the eye of the needle without getting clobbered.

                  That won't happen in the NFL? Remember he is compared to Tarkenton. However Fran played in a different era. The NFL players today are bigger stronger and way faster then in those days and for that reason he will get demolished rather then duplicate what Tarkenton did
                  He needs to watch tape on Russel Wilson

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                    Yes it always amazed me now the kid slithered out of trouble. Bout to take big hits and he always seemed to manage to just get the enough the eye of the needle without getting clobbered.

                    That won't happen in the NFL? Remember he is compared to Tarkenton. However Fran played in a different era. The NFL players today are bigger stronger and way faster then in those days and for that reason he will get demolished rather then duplicate what Tarkenton did
                    Exactly.

                    Manziel is going to have to bulk up a little because those defensive players will break him in half. And he's probably going to have to adjust his playing style when he runs and learn how to slide more and run out of bounds.
                    One of these teams is not like the others

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                      Yes it always amazed me now the kid slithered out of trouble. Bout to take big hits and he always seemed to manage to just get the enough the eye of the needle without getting clobbered.

                      That won't happen in the NFL? Remember he is compared to Tarkenton. However Fran played in a different era. The NFL players today are bigger stronger and way faster then in those days and for that reason he will get demolished rather then duplicate what Tarkenton did
                      Here we go with the superior athletes theory again

                      Fran Tarkenton in his prime would still do what he did
                      he wasn't fast, he had eyes in the back of his head......he could see the whole field like larry bird

                      he was just better than you, and he would do it again against these schmoes

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                      • #56
                        You are all Johnny Manziel experts

                        When he makes you eat your words there will not be a peep out of any of you

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by kingcap88 View Post
                          Manziel was the highest profile player in the draft and had a highly-televised slide down the draft board. To top it off, he basically begged Cleveland to draft him. That's why people care about it and find it funny. And the irony of a high profile player begging to go to Cleveland of all places after the Browns passed him up in the Top 10 makes it even funnier. And this news got out because Cleveland's QB coach spilled the beans about Manziel texting him.

                          Now, Manziel was a good pick for the Browns in terms of bringing the spotlight on them. Maybe he turns into a superstar. Maybe he turns into a bust. Who knows? But everyone will be watching, which is good for Cleveland.
                          When Johnny goes to the SB and Eli is putting up his 33 INT you won't think its so funny

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                            Also known as:

                            Johnny Tebow
                            Johnny Griffin III
                            Johnny Out-of-the-league-in-3-years.
                            let me get this straight
                            you like over blown horrid little RBs

                            but don't like guys who are 100% winners

                            figures

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DSP View Post
                              And he is also much smaller now that he is in the pros.
                              I think we've proven height is a bonus but not requiredonat this point. Drew Brees, Doug Flutie, Russell Wilson, Vick, and RG3 will atest to that..

                              If Manziel dosen't make it , it'll be for another reason then his height.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by DSP View Post
                                Trying thise kinds of plays against pros can get you injured very quickly. He is probably going to have to learn to control himself a lot more. Athelicism in a QB is great but they have to do most of their work from the pocket to have consistent success.
                                Yeah, I worry about him taking hits and getting injured also. I just think hes got the "it" factor.

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