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  • #91
    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

    [quote user="juice33s"][quote user="Neverend"]


    Anybody have good sleepers in this TE class? Jimmy graham was pretty much everyone's sleeper at TE last year (by fans and analysts alike)




    If boss walks I would like the giants to getan extremely athletic TE that's 260 pounds but runs like a WR. I don't like beckum, he'stoo undersized to ever draw LBs in coverage.

    [/quote]
    How bout Wesley Saunders from South Carolina. He's 6'5" 268 and has talent but will likely drop in the draft due to being suspended from his team for undisclosed reasons...might be worth a late round flier

    Here's a scouting report on him from scouts inc (1- Exceptional, 5-marginal)



















    Separation Skills 2 Good overall fluidity for size. Shows adequate initial pop off the line of scrimmage. Although lacking suddenness and burst with cuts, gets in and out of stem smoothly and can separate against man coverage. Effective working against zone-coverage and has a natural feel for soft spots. However, needs to do a better job of avoiding traffic when running shallow or intermediate crossing routes.
    Ball Skills 1 Possesses strong and natural hands. Rarely allows ball to get into body. Shows a flexible torso and can open up to make catch outside of frame. Also shows ability to fully extend arms and make catch in stride. Will secure ball in traffic.
    Big Play Ability 2 Possesses a loose gait giving him ability to stretch defenses vertically. Can exploit the vertical seams. An effective runner after the catch. Displays the athleticism and balance to make defenders miss in the open field. Lacks elite burst and won't outrun pursuit very often.
    Competitiveness/ Toughness 3 Willing to do the dirty work down the middle of the field. Shows the toughness and focus to bring in catch while absorbing contact. Also fights hard for extra yards with the ball in his hand. On the other hand lacks aggression as a blocker. Needs to put in more effort to sustain blocks.












    [/quote]




    Rumors are Spurrier kicked him off the team because of the NCAA investigation. Saunders was with Marvin Austin kicking it in South Beach with agents







    LOL Marvin Austin, NC what could of been this year. Im looking forward to seeing Austin play in the Shrine Bowl

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    • #92
      Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

      [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="juice33s"][quote user="Neverend"]


      Anybody have good sleepers in this TE class? Jimmy graham was pretty much everyone's sleeper at TE last year (by fans and analysts alike)




      If boss walks I would like the giants to getan extremely athletic TE that's 260 pounds but runs like a WR. I don't like beckum, he'stoo undersized to ever draw LBs in coverage.

      [/quote]
      How bout Wesley Saunders from South Carolina. He's 6'5" 268 and has talent but will likely drop in the draft due to being suspended from his team for undisclosed reasons...might be worth a late round flier

      Here's a scouting report on him from scouts inc (1- Exceptional, 5-marginal)



















      Separation Skills 2 Good overall fluidity for size. Shows adequate initial pop off the line of scrimmage. Although lacking suddenness and burst with cuts, gets in and out of stem smoothly and can separate against man coverage. Effective working against zone-coverage and has a natural feel for soft spots. However, needs to do a better job of avoiding traffic when running shallow or intermediate crossing routes.
      Ball Skills 1 Possesses strong and natural hands. Rarely allows ball to get into body. Shows a flexible torso and can open up to make catch outside of frame. Also shows ability to fully extend arms and make catch in stride. Will secure ball in traffic.
      Big Play Ability 2 Possesses a loose gait giving him ability to stretch defenses vertically. Can exploit the vertical seams. An effective runner after the catch. Displays the athleticism and balance to make defenders miss in the open field. Lacks elite burst and won't outrun pursuit very often.
      Competitiveness/ Toughness 3 Willing to do the dirty work down the middle of the field. Shows the toughness and focus to bring in catch while absorbing contact. Also fights hard for extra yards with the ball in his hand. On the other hand lacks aggression as a blocker. Needs to put in more effort to sustain blocks.












      [/quote]




      Rumors are Spurrier kicked him off the team because of the NCAA investigation. Saunders was with Marvin Austin kicking it in South Beach with agents







      LOL Marvin Austin, NC what could of been this year. Im looking forward to seeing Austin play in the Shrine Bowl

      [/quote]
      lol gotta love it, nice pic

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      • #93
        Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)



        That report on Wesley Saunders sounds pretty decent. Wish I can see some highlights on him but its nowhere on youtube, oh well




        Everyone like to talk about martez wilson as a 1st round pick butnobody likes to talk about the DT he plays in front of which is Corey Liuget. Just saw that he declared I'm pretty shocked that he did. Walter football has him as a 1st round pick next year in their mock draft. This kid is going to be an absolute steal for someone in the 3rd round. I personally thought he had the best bowl game out of any DT that's going to be in this draft, nick fairley included. fairley played well but he was unblocked on most of his plays. Oregon purposely does that sometimesin their zone, option one-read offense. Some of his TFLs came when ducks' QB made a bad read, no disrespect to fairley.. Liuget looked great in illionois bowl game and I wouldn't be stunned if he turns out to be a surprise high 2nd round pick or even a late 1st

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        • #94
          Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

          [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="juice33s"][quote user="Neverend"]


          Anybody have good sleepers in this TE class? Jimmy graham was pretty much everyone's sleeper at TE last year (by fans and analysts alike)




          If boss walks I would like the giants to getan extremely athletic TE that's 260 pounds but runs like a WR. I don't like beckum, he'stoo undersized to ever draw LBs in coverage.

          [/quote]
          How bout Wesley Saunders from South Carolina. He's 6'5" 268 and has talent but will likely drop in the draft due to being suspended from his team for undisclosed reasons...might be worth a late round flier

          Here's a scouting report on him from scouts inc (1- Exceptional, 5-marginal)



















          Separation Skills 2 Good overall fluidity for size. Shows adequate initial pop off the line of scrimmage. Although lacking suddenness and burst with cuts, gets in and out of stem smoothly and can separate against man coverage. Effective working against zone-coverage and has a natural feel for soft spots. However, needs to do a better job of avoiding traffic when running shallow or intermediate crossing routes.
          Ball Skills 1 Possesses strong and natural hands. Rarely allows ball to get into body. Shows a flexible torso and can open up to make catch outside of frame. Also shows ability to fully extend arms and make catch in stride. Will secure ball in traffic.
          Big Play Ability 2 Possesses a loose gait giving him ability to stretch defenses vertically. Can exploit the vertical seams. An effective runner after the catch. Displays the athleticism and balance to make defenders miss in the open field. Lacks elite burst and won't outrun pursuit very often.
          Competitiveness/ Toughness 3 Willing to do the dirty work down the middle of the field. Shows the toughness and focus to bring in catch while absorbing contact. Also fights hard for extra yards with the ball in his hand. On the other hand lacks aggression as a blocker. Needs to put in more effort to sustain blocks.












          [/quote]




          Rumors are Spurrier kicked him off the team because of the NCAA investigation. Saunders was with Marvin Austin kicking it in South Beach with agents







          LOL Marvin Austin, NC what could of been this year. Im looking forward to seeing Austin play in the Shrine Bowl

          [/quote]all those players should be banned from stepping foot on UNC grounds. They most definitely would have been top 20 and i was predicting top 10. not only that the damage they have done to future recruiting classes is unforgivable.

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          • #95
            Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)



            I just noticed that Dane Sanzenbacher WR from Ohio Stis a senior.




            That is a guy Id love to have. I know we dont really need a WR but that guy is just amazing one of the biggest playmakers in this WR class and thats saying something he also seems to catch every ball thats thrown near him. I would love to have this guy as a giant.

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            • #96
              Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

              [quote user="michaelkhan3"]

              I just noticed that Dane Sanzenbacher WR from Ohio Stis a senior.




              That is a guy Id love to have. I know we dont really need a WR but that guy is just amazing one of the biggest playmakers in this WR class and thats saying something he also seems to catch every ball thats thrown near him. I would love to have this guy as a giant.

              [/quote]
              yeah i like him as well

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              • #97
                Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="michaelkhan3"]


                I just noticed that Dane Sanzenbacher WR from Ohio Stis a senior.




                That is a guy Id love to have. I know we dont really need a WR but that guy is just amazing one of the biggest playmakers in this WR class and thats saying something he also seems to catch every ball thats thrown near him. I would love to have this guy as a giant.




                [/quote]
                yeah i like him as well
                [/quote]







                He really just makes plays.I've seen Ohio St a good few times this tear and he is always making plays and its not like his QB is the most accurate guy in the world he just gets open and makes the hard catches when he has to. He dosent have great speed or great size.

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                • #98
                  Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                  [quote user="michaelkhan3"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="michaelkhan3"]


                  I just noticed that Dane Sanzenbacher WR from Ohio Stis a senior.




                  That is a guy Id love to have. I know we dont really need a WR but that guy is just amazing one of the biggest playmakers in this WR class and thats saying something he also seems to catch every ball thats thrown near him. I would love to have this guy as a giant.




                  [/quote]
                  yeah i like him as well
                  [/quote]







                  He really just makes plays.I've seen Ohio St a good few times this tear and he is always making plays and its not like his QB is the most accurate guy in the world he just gets open and makes the hard catches when he has to. He dosent have great speed or great size.

                  [/quote]
                  yeah wish he was a little bigger but agree with everything you said. kid just makes plays. is a super sleeper of mine.

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                  • #99
                    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                    [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="michaelkhan3"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="michaelkhan3"]


                    I just noticed that Dane Sanzenbacher WR from Ohio St*is a senior.




                    That is a guy Id love to have. I know we dont really need a WR but that guy is just amazing one of the biggest playmakers in this WR class and thats saying something he also seems to catch every ball thats thrown near him. I would love to have this guy as a giant.*




                    [/quote]
                    yeah i like him as well
                    [/quote]




                    *




                    He really just makes plays.I've seen Ohio St a good few times this tear and he is always making plays and its not like his QB is the most accurate guy in the world he just gets open and makes the hard catches when he has to. He dosent have great speed or great size.

                    [/quote]
                    yeah wish he was a little bigger but agree with everything you said. kid just makes plays. is a super sleeper of mine.
                    [/quote]

                    I think he would be my favorite WR in this draft if we need to replace Steve Smith. But we do have plenty of depth at WR already

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                    • Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                      [quote user="michaelkhan3"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="michaelkhan3"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="michaelkhan3"]


                      I just noticed that Dane Sanzenbacher WR from Ohio Stis a senior.




                      That is a guy Id love to have. I know we dont really need a WR but that guy is just amazing one of the biggest playmakers in this WR class and thats saying something he also seems to catch every ball thats thrown near him. I would love to have this guy as a giant.




                      [/quote]
                      yeah i like him as well
                      [/quote]







                      He really just makes plays.I've seen Ohio St a good few times this tear and he is always making plays and its not like his QB is the most accurate guy in the world he just gets open and makes the hard catches when he has to. He dosent have great speed or great size.

                      [/quote]
                      yeah wish he was a little bigger but agree with everything you said. kid just makes plays. is a super sleeper of mine.
                      [/quote]

                      I think he would be my favorite WR in this draft if we need to replace Steve Smith. But we do have plenty of depth at WR already[/quote] yeah i havent even really looked at wr this season seeing how stacked we are.

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                      • Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                        i have a feeling titus young is gonna start flying up boards.

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                        • Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                          i like nile paul as well. reminds me of anquan boldin and vincent brown outt SDST. Sometimes i wish we werent so stacked at wr lol. There are a lot of guys i like in this wr class.

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                          • Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                            [quote user="Redeyejedi"]







                            LOL Marvin Austin, NC what could of been this year. Im looking forward to seeing Austin play in the Shrine Bowl

                            [/quote]

                            uh oh, gun pointed at his leg wearing sweatpants....

                            So how long do we have to come up with some sleepers? Can we list this after the combine?

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                            • Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                              [quote user="TuckYou"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]







                              LOL Marvin Austin, NC what could of been this year. Im looking forward to seeing Austin play in the Shrine Bowl

                              [/quote]

                              uh oh, gun pointed at his leg wearing sweatpants....

                              So how long do we have to come up with some sleepers? Can we list this after the combine?[/quote]thats what im waiting on. ive listed a few but there a lot more i want to get a look at before i throw my stamp on em

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                              • Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                                A few other Sleepers to keep this thing going..


                                KJ WRIGHT SLB MISS ST- not a super sleeper, but a big strong kid, whos a leader, and can really fill a stat sheet, by rushing the passer, and pursuing ball carriers.. Had a bunch of double digit tackle games, and defended 4pass's against Georgia.... Very very active... One of the better SLB in this class..

                                DARRIN WALLS CB N.DAME
                                - very expierenced corner, who is great in coming up and helping with the run, and can man up, with his solid, albeit not spectuacular speed.. Good size 6ft 190lbs... The type of mid to late rd pick that not only makes a team, but ends up being a surprise starter...

                                Cameron Chism CB Maryland- Solid ball skills, good speed, and size, also can be a help on special teams... really active in run support...

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