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  • 2012 annual sleeper thread(2011 part of thread as well)

    Well, in what has become a Fun traditon on these boards, i decided to start this yrs SLEEPER thread for the 2011 NFL DRAFT... It was a awesome thread last yr, and its meant for mid to later rd guys who people think are gonna make it in the pro's and help our club or a club... Dosen't have to be Super Star, just a guy or guys who will make it and help and become known on the next level...

    A guy i'm liking right now for a 6th-7th and maybe 5th if he does good at the Shrine Game and in Pre Draft workouts is DT TERRELL McCLAIN of S.FLORIDA... Hes got very good size and showed enough production to warrent middish to late rd consideration in hopes of finding a gem..McClain offers a nice mix of Run Stopping and at causing havoc in his penetration.. Coach Holtz said Measurable wise, McClain may be the best prospect they have to offer in this yrs draft.. Watch for him to make some noise in moving up some on the way toward the draft... Think 4th-6th rd with a ceiling of 3rd rd if everything in the world works out


    Another player i like for the later rounds is Notre Dame CB Darrin Walls.. I've watched him his whole career as a diehard ND fan, and hes got SUNDAY potential.. Not afraid to mix it up in run support with his solid CB SIZE(6ft 190lb), and plays the ball very well in the air... Very expierenced, and easily the best Player in Notre Dames Secondary... Very solid ST player at ND.. Can play man as well as most CB's in college ball, and has nice speed and agility... A Solid all around player.. Think 4th-6th rd

    One more Sleeper for now that i'll mention is Louisville TE Cameron Graham... Hes become one of my fave TE prospects out there, with his length and hands... Had 10games of at least 3catches and can block pretty solidly.. OC mike sanford has said, hes a good blend of on the line blocking TE and recevier, and also mentions, hes not the biggest TE, but he works his but off... Graham was highly recruited jr college player, getting scholarship offers from LSU and Arizona st, but chose Louisville due to playing more quickly... A definete player to keep a eye on going forward... Think 5th-7th with ceiling of late 4th...



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    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

    Nate Irving MLB NC state- His nick name is the "Predator", gotta love it. Irving recovered from a near death car crash in 2009 (broken ribs, leg and puncured lung) to have a monster 2010 in which he was voted All-American by SI and Scout.com.

    The guys also noted for his commitment to the game and ability to be a player coach....In other words he's the Ray Lewis type leader our defense has been waiting for.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otgKKqUcWhU

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      [quote user="juice33s"]Nate Irving MLB NC state- His nick name is the "Predator", gotta love it. Irving recovered from a near death car crash in 2009 (broken ribs, leg and puncured lung) to have a monster 2010 in which he was voted All-American by SI and Scout.com.

      The guys also noted for his commitment to the game and ability to be a player coach....In other words he's the Ray Lewis type leader our defense has been waiting for.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otgKKqUcWhU

      [/quote]




      I was going to say Nate Irving & Mario Harvey....




      Harvey has been a beast this year at MLB for Marshall.....144 tackles...9 Sacks...7 PD's...

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        [quote user="myles2424"]

        [quote user="juice33s"]Nate Irving MLB NC state- His nick name is the "Predator", gotta love it. Irving recovered from a near death car crash in 2009 (broken ribs, leg and puncured lung) to have a monster 2010 in which he was voted All-American by SI and Scout.com.

        The guys also noted for his commitment to the game and ability to be a player coach....In other words he's the Ray Lewis type leader our defense has been waiting for.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otgKKqUcWhU

        [/quote]




        I was going to say Nate Irving & Mario Harvey....




        Harvey has been a beast this year at MLB for Marshall.....144 tackles...9 Sacks...7 PD's...

        [/quote]
        I think both guys could make or break their draft stock at the combine...irving needs to show he's fully regained his athleticism from the crash and Harvey needs to show he has enough speed to be an every down player.

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          Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

          Nate Irving MLB NC state is going to be an impact player. Living in the Carolinas and had seen him play. Yes, a Ray Lewis type, little slow to be Patrick Willis type. Would make a good later round pick, especially if Bulluck is around to mentor him.

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            Was going to say mario harvey as well. A little underrated. Haven't seen a lot of him this year tho but he's a machine (and a little short, heavy, and not good in coverage) but a terrific run stuffer




            For now I'd go with LB Casey Matthews. He's the middle LB for the oregon ducks, but nobody likes to talk about him. This guy has tremendous instincts, he's very good at shooting gaps, and takes on and shedsblocks extremely well. Unlike some of the LBs in this class, Matthews meets RBs straight on for the tackle and drives them back instead of dragging them down and giving HBs 3-5 extra yards of forward progress. Oregon's head coach Chip kelly called him the most instinctual player he has coached. Matthews also has NFL bloodlines too as he's the brother of clay matthews. He's not an elite athlete but he's pretty good in coverage. He's not a great pass rusher but he just has a knack of getting to the QB, he is always unblocked... matthews is great at reading blocks and finding a lane to rush the passer. I love this kid and is one of my biggest sleepers (As far as LBs go) in this draft class. Right now he has 5th round value and will be an absolute steal for whatever team drafts him. Hopefully its the giants. I think he's going to have a big game this monday against auburn

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              [quote user="par404"]Nate Irving MLB NC state is going to be an impact player. Living in the Carolinas and had seen him play. Yes, a Ray Lewis type, little slow to be Patrick Willis type. Would make a good later round pick, especially if Bulluck is around to mentor him.
              [/quote]




              Good later round pick is right. IMO the guy is a tremendous leader and motivator but he doesn't have a lot of potential other than that

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                Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                final sleepers

                QB)Ryan Colburn Frsno ST
                T.J. Yates UNC
                Tyrod Taylor VT

                RB) Baron Batch TT
                Derrick Locke Kentucky
                Brandon Saine OSU
                Allen Bradford USC
                Da'Rel Scott Maryland
                Graig Cooper U
                Roy Helu JR Neb(lot of RB's i like i know lol)

                WR) Matt Szczur (if he pursues football)
                Joe Morgan Walsh
                Ricardo Lockette Fort Valley State
                Jeff Maehl Oregon
                Dane Sanzenbacher OSU
                Vincent Brown SDST

                TE) Schuylar Oordt N.Iowa
                Stephen Skelton Fordham

                OT) Joseph Barksdale LSU
                Marcus Gilbert Florida
                Christian Hairston Clem
                William Rackley Lehigh

                OG) Steve Schilling Mich
                Justin Boren OSU

                C) Zane Taylor Utah (41 reps at pro day, giddy-up)
                ryan bartholomew Syr
                Tim Barnes Mizzo
                Stefen wisneiwski PSU (only reason why im putting him is cause i heard he has been falling)


                DE) Sam Acho Texas
                Pernell Mcphee Miss St. (if he goes 3-4 and adds weight i think he ideal there)
                Ricky Elmore Ari.
                Mario Addison Troy

                DT) Chris Neild WVU
                Ollie Ogbu PSU

                OLB) Eric Gordon Mich ST
                Jerimiah Hunter Iowa
                Kenny Rowe Ore.
                D.J. Smith Appalachian ST
                Brian Rolle OSU

                ILB) Alex Wujciak Maryland

                CB) Demarcus Van *** U
                Byron Maxwell Clem
                Ryan Jones NW Missouri ST
                Buster Skrine
                Kendric Burney UNC

                S) Dom Diccico Pitt
                Brian Lainhardt Kent
                Andrew Rich BYU
                Tejay Johnson TCU
                Mark Legree Ap ST


                That this years crop

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                  Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                  [quote user="Neverend"]


                  Was going to say mario harvey as well. A little underrated. Haven't seen a lot of him this year tho but he's a machine (and a little short, heavy, and not good in coverage) but a terrific run stuffer




                  For now I'd go with LB Casey Matthews. He's the middle LB for the oregon ducks, but nobody likes to talk about him. This guy has tremendous instincts, he's very good at shooting gaps, and takes on and shedsblocks extremely well. Unlike some of the LBs in this class, Matthews meets RBs straight on for the tackle and drives them back instead of dragging them down and giving HBs 3-5 extra yards of forward progress. Oregon's head coach Chip kelly called him the most instinctual player he has coached. Matthews also has NFL bloodlines too as he's the brother of clay matthews. He's not an elite athlete but he's pretty good in coverage. He's not a great pass rusher but he just has a knack of getting to the QB, he is always unblocked... matthews is great at reading blocks and finding a lane to rush the passer. I love this kid and is one of my biggest sleepers (As far as LBs go) in this draft class. Right now he has 5th round value and will be an absolute steal for whatever team drafts him. Hopefully its the giants. I think he's going to have a big game this monday against auburn




                  [/quote]




                  I think Mathews is slowly gaining more & more hype...If he has a good game in the National Championship & good combine he could end up in the 3rd round..

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                  • #10
                    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                    Anthony Walters-Delaware FS

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                    • #11
                      Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                      starting early arent we NYC? :P

                      guy i really like(for us) is Derrick locke outta kentucky. small speedy and good receiver outta the backfeild. havent seen too many Kentucky games but the couple i have (including the one right now) he has looked promising.

                      another guy ive been mentioning for awhile vai taua from nevada. guy is great after first contact and while im sure some of his production is attributed to the pistol offense he is still a VERY tough runner. his teamate kaepernick(sp?) is another guy who is interesting to me.

                      Tyrod taylor is another "project QB" i like. Love his athleticism and even though he has wheels he always keeps his eyes DOWNFEILD, which is rare in a scrambler that young.

                      Te fleener from stanford is someone i will be keeping an eye out for. Havent seen him on any mock draft boards but after his bowl performance im hoping he is not done with football.

                      OT barksdale

                      OG Moffitt

                      C Barnes

                      OLB jerimiah hunter and dontay moch (if he goes to a 3-4)




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                      • #12
                        Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

                        I see maybe a couple college games a year so I don't know too many of the players other than the 1st few rounds. I noticed that the RB John Clay is a pretty big back from Wisconsin. Is he any good?

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                          [quote user="TheEnigma"]I see maybe a couple college games a year so I don't know too many of the players other than the 1st few rounds. I noticed that the RB John Clay is a pretty big back from Wisconsin. Is he any good?[/quote]VERY good but i dont think he is expected to declare

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                            [quote user="thegreatone"]starting early arent we NYC? :P

                            guy i really like(for us) is Derrick locke outta kentucky. small speedy and good receiver outta the backfeild. havent seen too many Kentucky games but the couple i have (including the one right now) he has looked promising.
                            [/quote]




                            i really like derrick locke. this guy is blazing fast, gotta love undersized backs. unfortunately not a great between the tackles runner but you gotta love how plays aggressive there even though he's not good at it. he is also good running routes, wouldnt be bad as a pass catching back. I think he can even be a punt returner

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                              [quote user="Neverend"]

                              [quote user="par404"]Nate Irving MLB NC state is going to be an impact player. Living in the Carolinas and had seen him play. Yes, a Ray Lewis type, little slow to be Patrick Willis type. Would make a good later round pick, especially if Bulluck is around to mentor him.
                              [/quote]




                              Good later round pick is right. IMO the guy is a tremendous leader and motivator but he doesn't have a lot of potential other than that

                              [/quote]
                              Not alot of potential? The guy had 20.5 tackles for loss and 7 sacks last season from the MLB position and he's probably going to be the first MLB selected in the draft this year over guys like greg jones and quan sturdivant.

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