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  • #46
    Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Spizi"]Uh after watching the Giants this whole season I think its safe to say that not only the first 2 rounds, but the whole draft should be defense. Once Tuck comes back healthy next year and we draft a linebacker, we will be set a DE with JPP Tuck, and Kiwi. We also need a safety, CBs, and a DT. Round 1- Zach Brown LB, UNC Round 2- Mark Barron S, Bama Round 3- Cliff Harris CB, Oregon Round 4- Isaiah Pead RB, Cinci Add Carl Nicks in FA to solidify the online and you have a drastically better team next year.[/quote] I was just thinking about Cliff Harris and how he'd help with the SPeed aspect that our Secondary seems to lack*** I'd love to see Zach Brown as the pick as well because again Overall team speed*** I don't know about Barron though** Hes not my favorite player at the positon and seems a bit overrated*** I'd rather a guy like markelle martin or maybe* we can wait and get Delano Howell in RD 4
    [/quote]Barrons tape is better this year. Last year he had a lot of trouble in coverage but this year not so much. Still I know what your saying. Your almost better going with the quicker hipped safety like Martin with how teams throw the ball[/quote]

    True. Honestly though the more I think about it If Richardson is there in the first we have to take him don't we? If our running game continues to look anything like it did the first 11 weeks I would have to say yes.

    When you play bama you're sole focus is to stop Trent and no one has really been able to do that. He's the kind of back that can make something out of nothing and is truly a complete back.

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    • #47
      Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

      [quote user="Spizi"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Spizi"]Uh after watching the Giants this whole season I think its safe to say that not only the first 2 rounds, but the whole draft should be defense. Once Tuck comes back healthy next year and we draft a linebacker, we will be set a DE with JPP Tuck, and Kiwi. We also need a safety, CBs, and a DT. Round 1- Zach Brown LB, UNC Round 2- Mark Barron S, Bama Round 3- Cliff Harris CB, Oregon Round 4- Isaiah Pead RB, Cinci Add Carl Nicks in FA to solidify the online and you have a drastically better team next year.[/quote] I was just thinking about Cliff Harris and how he'd help with the SPeed aspect that our Secondary seems to lack I'd love to see Zach Brown as the pick as well because again Overall team speed I don't know about Barron though Hes not my favorite player at the positon and seems a bit overrated I'd rather a guy like markelle martin or maybe we can wait and get Delano Howell in RD 4
      [/quote]Barrons tape is better this year. Last year he had a lot of trouble in coverage but this year not so much. Still I know what your saying. Your almost better going with the quicker hipped safety like Martin with how teams throw the ball[/quote]

      True. Honestly though the more I think about it If Richardson is there in the first we have to take him don't we? If our running game continues to look anything like it did the first 11 weeks I would have to say yes.

      When you play bama you're sole focus is to stop Trent and no one has really been able to do that. He's the kind of back that can make something out of nothing and is truly a complete back.[/quote]

      I love trent, I really do. But, I dunno if it is a smart pick for us to go RB 1st. We have more holes to fill than past years not only because we have a lot of starters going to free agency this year but guys coming off injury will be question marks on top of some aging guys. Therefor, I think Runningback, which is a deep class this year, is something we can address in mid round 2-4 and still get a quality guy who will help immediately.

      RB aside, we still have glaring needs along the Oline, DBs, DT, LB and TE.

      Oline is self explanatory. It is thin and aging.

      Dbs beause we have 2 Cbs going to free agency and several guys coming off season ending injuries.

      DT because we lack depth, Marvin Austin hasnt played football in 2 years and is coming off an injury. Bernard is likely only even playing this year because we got so thin we had to resign him. He is likely done after this year.

      LB is still a point of weakness. Goff is coming off injury and the young guys have worked hard but Im not sure yet they have what it takes to be more than special teamers.

      TE because Pascoe just isnt a good TE. We need depth to along with Ballard.
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      • #48
        Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

        [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Spizi"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Spizi"]Uh after watching the Giants this whole season I think its safe to say that not only the first 2 rounds, but the whole draft should be defense. Once Tuck comes back healthy next year and we draft a linebacker, we will be set a DE with JPP Tuck, and Kiwi. We also need a safety, CBs, and a DT. Round 1- Zach Brown LB, UNC Round 2- Mark Barron S, Bama Round 3- Cliff Harris CB, Oregon Round 4- Isaiah Pead RB, Cinci Add Carl Nicks in FA to solidify the online and you have a drastically better team next year.[/quote] I was just thinking about Cliff Harris and how he'd help with the SPeed aspect that our Secondary seems to lack*** I'd love to see Zach Brown as the pick as well because again Overall team speed*** I don't know about Barron though** Hes not my favorite player at the positon and seems a bit overrated*** I'd rather a guy like markelle martin or maybe* we can wait and get Delano Howell in RD 4
        [/quote]Barrons tape is better this year. Last year he had a lot of trouble in coverage but this year not so much. Still I know what your saying. Your almost better going with the quicker hipped safety like Martin with how teams throw the ball[/quote]

        True. Honestly though the more I think about it If Richardson is there in the first we have to take him don't we? If our running game continues to look anything like it did the first 11 weeks I would have to say yes.

        When you play bama you're sole focus is to stop Trent and no one has really been able to do that. He's the kind of back that can make something out of nothing and is truly a complete back.[/quote]

        I love trent, I really do. But, I dunno if it is a smart pick for us to go RB 1st. We have more holes to fill than past years not only because we have a lot of starters going to free agency this year but guys coming off injury will be question marks on top of some aging guys. Therefor, I think Runningback, which is a deep class this year, is something we can address in mid round 2-4 and still get a quality guy who will help immediately.

        RB aside, we still have glaring needs along the Oline, DBs, DT, LB and TE.

        Oline is self explanatory. It is thin and aging.

        Dbs beause we have 2 Cbs going to free agency and several guys coming off season ending injuries.

        DT because we lack depth, Marvin Austin hasnt played football in 2 years and is coming off an injury. Bernard is likely only even playing this year because we got so thin we had to resign him. He is likely done after this year.

        LB is still a point of weakness. Goff is coming off injury and the young guys have worked hard but Im not sure yet they have what it takes to be more than special teamers.

        TE because Pascoe just isnt a good TE. We need depth to along with Ballard.
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        Yea i agree with you. We do have a lot of weaknesses but If Trent was there I think we might take him. He's a top 5 talent in the draft and we should be picking in the high teens. Most likely we won't have to worry about this because he should be long gone.

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        • #49
          Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?



          Call me crazy but i would like to address WR, and RB as nicks is great he's slightly injury prone imho although his injuries don't keep him out long its the fact that their lingering that bothers me and with the way eli has elevated his game why not give him more weapons and competetition for the other Wide outs to improve.




          And RB cause lets be honest bradshaw is a beast but his run still is damaging to his feet and how long is he going to last running the way he is, Jacobs is great when the line is available to block im not sold on ware yet. we need an every down back i wish we were in position to get richardson but i know hes like a top 10 talent and we wont be picking anywhere near top 10


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          • #50
            Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

            [quote user="rainierjef"]

            Call me crazy but i would like to address WR, and RB as nicks is great he's slightly injury prone imho although his injuries don't keep him out long its the fact that their lingering that bothers me and with the way eli has elevated his game why not give him more weapons and competetition for the other Wide outs to improve.




            And RB cause lets be honest bradshaw is a beast but his run still is damaging to his feet and how long is he going to last running the way he is, Jacobs is great when the line is available to block im not sold on ware yet. we need an every down back i wish we were in position to get richardson but i know hes like a top 10 talent and we wont be picking anywhere near top 10

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            I'm all for adding more offensive weapons because you can never have enough but it's obvious that our needs are on the defensive side of the ball. We have a top 5 passing offense and a bottom 5 rushing offense. That is why I would take a runningback before I would take a wr.

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            • #51
              Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

              [quote user="rainierjef"]

              Call me crazy but i would like to address WR, and RB as nicks is great he's slightly injury prone imho although his injuries don't keep him out long its the fact that their lingering that bothers me and with the way eli has elevated his game why not give him more weapons and competetition for the other Wide outs to improve.




              And RB cause lets be honest bradshaw is a beast but his run still is damaging to his feet and how long is he going to last running the way he is, Jacobs is great when the line is available to block im not sold on ware yet. we need an every down back i wish we were in position to get richardson but i know hes like a top 10 talent and we wont be picking anywhere near top 10

              [/quote]Assuming we addres our LB problem I'm %100 with you....nowadays you got to have at least 4 good WRs...nicks is injury prone,H.A.M can be very inconsistent & what if we found ourselves losing him unexpected like boss??....Cruz has been great,but I think we'd all agree it'll take another season t be %100 sold, around the league every year we see guys put up monster years and then disappear.....the fact that Jernigan hasn't seen the field isn't promising,Barden I'm not sold on.......
              RB, Bradshaw & Jacobs are hurt every year, and Jacobs replacement needs to be thought of now, he's going to be 30 & making alot of $$$

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              • #52
                Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

                As of right now our starting RT next year is who? Brewer?

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                • #53
                  Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

                  Well depending on what happens in free agency, I think O-line and LB, specifically Sam backer, should be targeted in the first 2 rds.




                  But I think CB should be looked at (Ross and Thomas are FAs and Thomas is coming off his 2nd ACL surgery on the same knee)



                  With our RB situations(Bradshaw's ankle/foot issues and Jacobs possibly not being a Giant next year) I would not mind seeing someone like Ball or Polk as a Giant next year.


                  Ballard has exceeded expectations in my opinion, but I would like another compliment at TE for the Giants---the Beckum experiment is not working out.

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                  • #54
                    Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

                    [quote user="rainierjef"]


                    Call me crazy but i would like to address WR, and RB as nicks is great he's slightly injury prone imho although his injuries don't keep him out long its the fact that their lingering that bothers me and with the way eli has elevated his game why not give him more weapons and competetition for the other Wide outs to improve.




                    And RB cause lets be honest bradshaw is a beast but his run still is damaging to his feet and how long is he going to last running the way he is, Jacobs is great when the line is available to block im not sold on ware yet. we need an every down back i wish we were in position to get richardson but i know hes like a top 10 talent and we wont be picking anywhere near top 10




                    [/quote]




                    draft as many weapons as you want, but if eli aint getting protected, no one gets the ball! we dnt need to spend a 1st rd pick on WR or rb. We have way more needs..

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                    • #55
                      Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

                      i would love a top RB and OL.
                      Lamar Miller and Peter Konz if we can get them.
                      We can sign a FA TE like Olsen or Fasano and make Ballard a backup.

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                      • #56
                        Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?



                        [quote user="deekay7685"]i would love a top RB and OL. Lamar Miller and Peter Konz if we can get them. We can sign a FA TE like Olsen or Fasano and make Ballard a backup.[/quote]




                        1) Fasano isnt a FA until 2013




                        2) Question...Why would you bench a younger Ballard whois younger andis having a better year thenOlsen? And most likely will want a payday after this year..




                        http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...seasonType=REG




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                        • #57
                          Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

                          Besides QB U can justify anything.

                          Center-Baas sux

                          LG -Diehl sux

                          OT-Beatty injury prone Mckenzie FA

                          WR- Manningham FA,Barden hasnt done enough with his snaps

                          TE-Ballard is Ok but another guy is needed

                          RB-Jacobs sux,Bradshaw injury prone and slow

                          CB
                          Webster is a starter but makes to much money.
                          Amukumara- has been terrible but Im willing to give him a pass but it doesnt look good

                          Thomas is a FA and coming off a really bad injury

                          Ross -FA and is worth keeping if they can pay him what he is a 4th corner

                          Safety

                          Phillips- Better then I expected this season but not above being upgraded

                          Rolle-Average safety making ridiculous money.Supposedly a team leader.Maybe its why this team lacks leadership because thats a guy leading him.Id cut his ***

                          Grant-Finished.Only a box safety back up


                          DT

                          Linval- First season starting takes on Double teams well isnt on the level of Coefield though.Willing to wait on him

                          Canty-Overrated overpaid cut him

                          Austin-Has now not played in 2 years.I actually will be amazed if he isnt a bust


                          DE

                          Osi-needs to be traded

                          Tuck-Always playing hurt

                          JPP-Stud best 4-3 end in Football by next season

                          Tolly-Solid depth


                          LB

                          WLB- Boley ,Williams,Paysinger- Good group I think

                          SOLB-Kiwi should be playing defensive end and will be again I believe after Osi is shipped out

                          MLB-Goff- Hopefully comes back strong, Greg Jones-I wasnt sold on Jones at draft time I think its obvious why he fell, Herzlich-played better then Jones







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                          • #58
                            Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

                            My opinion of what we need we should do in the draft.

                            1st OL
                            2nd LB
                            3rd RB
                            Rest of draft Best player available

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                            • #59
                              Re: What positions do we target in the first two rounds next year?

                              needs:

                              OL
                              RB
                              TE
                              SLB

                              For depth:
                              OL
                              MLB
                              CB
                              DL
                              KR

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