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  • #16
    Re: Team Needs in order of importance

    [quote user="Raptor22"]Talent
    Talent
    Talent
    Talent

    Before this season started, we were thin at LB, but LOADED at CB and DE... Then Tuck gets mauled by the injury bug, Osi needs additional surgery, and Clint Sintim goes down forcing Kiwi to stay at LB, and we're left with Tolly and JPP.

    at CB, we were stacked and then we lose Johnson, Prince, TT24, Weatherspoon, Coe, sign and lose Tryon... and I might be forgetting some.

    At LB, we lose Goff, and Sintim, but then Boley and Kiwi play better than we could have hoped, Herz steps up and looks good, Blackburn comes back and plays great, and Williams looks like an absolute stud.

    My point being that there's absolutely NO way to tell what a team's needs are, or are going to be. The only way to combat that is to add as much talent as you can, regardless of position.
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    I think thats a fair answer if he asked about what we will draft. BPA is weighted heavily in drafts, especially for us.

    But he asked what needs we have. Or to rephrase, "what positions do we need to upgrade talent?"

    It is a fair question to ask and it cannot be answered by saying "BPA" or "Talent."

    We definitely have positions that lact depth and talent compared to other positions.

    I feel the most pronouced of those are

    OT - Talent is old and on decline. Not much youth in the wings at tackle, just Brewer.

    RB - BJ is due $4.5 mil next year. He is likely gone. We lack depth and talent being AB.

    DB - Grant is old, may retire. Ross is FA. TT is a FA and coming off 2 knee surgeries. We lack
    depth. A couple other guys coming off knee injuries too.

    TE - Only 1 TE on the roster right now is signed next year(Beckum) and he isnt really a TE at all. Ballard was better than expected but even if he resigns we could still uprgade the position or get depth.




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    • #17
      Re: Team Needs in order of importance

      [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Talent
      Talent
      Talent
      Talent

      Before this season started, we were thin at LB, but LOADED at CB and DE... Then Tuck gets mauled by the injury bug, Osi needs additional surgery, and Clint Sintim goes down forcing Kiwi to stay at LB, and we're left with Tolly and JPP.

      at CB, we were stacked and then we lose Johnson, Prince, TT24, Weatherspoon, Coe, sign and lose Tryon... and I might be forgetting some.

      At LB, we lose Goff, and Sintim, but then Boley and Kiwi play better than we could have hoped, Herz steps up and looks good, Blackburn comes back and plays great, and Williams looks like an absolute stud.

      My point being that there's absolutely NO way to tell what a team's needs are, or are going to be. The only way to combat that is to add as much talent as you can, regardless of position.
      [/quote]

      I think thats a fair answer if he asked about what we will draft. BPA is weighted heavily in drafts, especially for us.

      But he asked what needs we have. Or to rephrase, "what positions do we need to upgrade talent?"

      It is a fair question to ask and it cannot be answered by saying "BPA" or "Talent."

      We definitely have positions that lact depth and talent compared to other positions.

      I feel the most pronouced of those are

      OT - Talent is old and on decline. Not much youth in the wings at tackle, just Brewer.

      RB - BJ is due $4.5 mil next year. He is likely gone. We lack depth and talent being AB.

      DB - Grant is old, may retire. Ross is FA. TT is a FA and coming off 2 knee surgeries. We lack
      depth. A couple other guys coming off knee injuries too.

      TE - Only 1 TE on the roster right now is signed next year(Beckum) and he isnt really a TE at all. Ballard was better than expected but even if he resigns we could still uprgade the position or get depth.




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      I stand by my answer.

      The number 1 need of any NFL team is talent, regardless of position, because you cannot predict the fortunes of a season. BPA is the strategy that addresses that need. What looks like a need now may not be, and what looks like a strength can all too easily become a weakness.






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      • #18
        Re: Team Needs in order of importance

        I think OL,DE, DB alway go fast in the first round. So Ol and DB are my need pick in round one. Looking at the last few drafts good MLB's have come out of the second round. RB talent can be found in late rounds along with TE. We seem to have a nac for finding good players out of small schools in the late rounds. I think whatever Reese does will be the best for the team. I didnt like the JPP pick. guess I was very wrong.

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        • #19
          Re: Team Needs in order of importance

          [quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Talent
          Talent
          Talent
          Talent

          Before this season started, we were thin at LB, but LOADED at CB and DE... Then Tuck gets mauled by the injury bug, Osi needs additional surgery, and Clint Sintim goes down forcing Kiwi to stay at LB, and we're left with Tolly and JPP.

          at CB, we were stacked and then we lose Johnson, Prince, TT24, Weatherspoon, Coe, sign and lose Tryon... and I might be forgetting some.

          At LB, we lose Goff, and Sintim, but then Boley and Kiwi play better than we could have hoped, Herz steps up and looks good, Blackburn comes back and plays great, and Williams looks like an absolute stud.

          My point being that there's absolutely NO way to tell what a team's needs are, or are going to be. The only way to combat that is to add as much talent as you can, regardless of position.
          [/quote]

          I think thats a fair answer if he asked about what we will draft. BPA is weighted heavily in drafts, especially for us.

          But he asked what needs we have. Or to rephrase, "what positions do we need to upgrade talent?"

          It is a fair question to ask and it cannot be answered by saying "BPA" or "Talent."

          We definitely have positions that lact depth and talent compared to other positions.

          I feel the most pronouced of those are

          OT - Talent is old and on decline. Not much youth in the wings at tackle, just Brewer.

          RB - BJ is due $4.5 mil next year. He is likely gone. We lack depth and talent being AB.

          DB - Grant is old, may retire. Ross is FA. TT is a FA and coming off 2 knee surgeries. We lack
          depth. A couple other guys coming off knee injuries too.

          TE - Only 1 TE on the roster right now is signed next year(Beckum) and he isnt really a TE at all. Ballard was better than expected but even if he resigns we could still uprgade the position or get depth.




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          I stand by my answer.

          The number 1 need of any NFL team is talent, regardless of position, because you cannot predict the fortunes of a season. BPA is the strategy that addresses that need. What looks like a need now may not be, and what looks like a strength can all too easily become a weakness.


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          You missed my point....

          But ok w/e. Lets go into next year with 1 TE who plays wr because we found 6 talented backup qbs and signed them all.

          Need is a part of every offseason, even if just a part. The OP asked what needs we have, you didnt answer.

          What positions do we lack talent? You choose not to answer is your answer.
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          • #20
            Re: Team Needs in order of importance

            [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Raptor22"]Talent
            Talent
            Talent
            Talent

            Before this season started, we were thin at LB, but LOADED at CB and DE... Then Tuck gets mauled by the injury bug, Osi needs additional surgery, and Clint Sintim goes down forcing Kiwi to stay at LB, and we're left with Tolly and JPP.

            at CB, we were stacked and then we lose Johnson, Prince, TT24, Weatherspoon, Coe, sign and lose Tryon... and I might be forgetting some.

            At LB, we lose Goff, and Sintim, but then Boley and Kiwi play better than we could have hoped, Herz steps up and looks good, Blackburn comes back and plays great, and Williams looks like an absolute stud.

            My point being that there's absolutely NO way to tell what a team's needs are, or are going to be. The only way to combat that is to add as much talent as you can, regardless of position.
            [/quote]

            I think thats a fair answer if he asked about what we will draft. BPA is weighted heavily in drafts, especially for us.

            But he asked what needs we have. Or to rephrase, "what positions do we need to upgrade talent?"

            It is a fair question to ask and it cannot be answered by saying "BPA" or "Talent."

            We definitely have positions that lact depth and talent compared to other positions.

            I feel the most pronouced of those are

            OT - Talent is old and on decline. Not much youth in the wings at tackle, just Brewer.

            RB - BJ is due $4.5 mil next year. He is likely gone. We lack depth and talent being AB.

            DB - Grant is old, may retire. Ross is FA. TT is a FA and coming off 2 knee surgeries. We lack
            depth. A couple other guys coming off knee injuries too.

            TE - Only 1 TE on the roster right now is signed next year(Beckum) and he isnt really a TE at all. Ballard was better than expected but even if he resigns we could still uprgade the position or get depth.




            [/quote]

            I stand by my answer.

            The number 1 need of any NFL team is talent, regardless of position, because you cannot predict the fortunes of a season. BPA is the strategy that addresses that need. What looks like a need now may not be, and what looks like a strength can all too easily become a weakness.


            [/quote]

            You missed my point....

            But ok w/e. Lets go into next year with 1 TE who plays wr because we found 6 talented backup qbs and signed them all.

            Need is a part of every offseason, even if just a part. The OP asked what needs we have, you didnt answer.

            What positions do we lack talent? You choose not to answer is your answer.
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            I didn't miss your point, I grok it perfectly.

            My view is more glass half full. Rather than say that we LACK talent, I'm saying that the purpose of the draft is to add talent rather than patch holes.


            To my mind I view FA as the avenue to patch holes. Free agents can be reasonably expected to contribute in their first season (or two, depending on injury) because they're veterans and don't have to get used to the speed of the game or a jump in competition.

            From there, the only real hole I see on this team (right now, because that's the only thing we can know for sure) is TE.

            As I said in the topic addressing free agency, after resigning our own free agents, and doing some contract shuffling (between signing Eli, Jacobs, Diehl, and maybe some others if they're open to it, to new contracts ) I'd make an offer to Jermicheal Finely to shore up TE, and turn a weakness into a strength.

            This team is not lacking in talent, and since I can't tell the future, the only need I know will exist in the future is the need for more talent.

            And while you're example is an attempt to extend the argument into the ridiculous... How many QB's have the Texans and Colts lost this year? How many did they expect to lose?


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            • #21
              Re: Team Needs in order of importance

              [quote user="Raptor22"]


              And while you're example is an attempt to extend the argument into the ridiculous...


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              .Im not trying to expend any arguement because it isnt an argument for 1 reason....

              Its like he asked the question "what is your favorite number?" and your answer is "The letter C"

              I never said we lack talent as a team either. But clearly we have positions that have less than others. Its simple logic. Some positions lack depth(and therefor talent) and some positions are aging and therefor will someday soon need talent infusion.

              You simply cannot go into the offseason with the approach of "we will go after only the highest talent players regardless of position" because then you could end up with 10 Rbs and no offfensive lineman(for example).

              And by stating that TE is a problem area, you did finally answer the question put forth.... so thx.



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