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  • #16
    Add Kevin King to the list of CBs being slept on. He's the 16th overall CB on NFL.com's rankings but others have him ranked as high as the 2nd best CB in the draft. He's getting comparisons of "the next Richard Sherman". Comparing their combine stats King is faster than Sherman and has a better vertical too. They both are ball hawks. Some have him being mocked to the Seahawks in the 1st round.... like they need a better secondary! lol.
    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVK0HqZ1bE

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    • #17
      Originally posted by B-Red22 View Post
      Mack Hollins, WR UNC, big and fast, perfect rd 7 gamble
      I am with you on this on. He has durability issues. I also read some teams already brought him in forprivate workouts.

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      • #18
        Curtis Samuel

        http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/0...curtis-samuel/

        What happened since January? Is he under-rated now? Was he over-rated then?

        http://www.bigblueview.com/2017/4/6/...rt-news-rumors
        Last edited by bigpoppy; 04-09-2017, 11:23 PM.

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        • #19
          http://www.scout.com/player/148894-j...6903?year=2013

          rJordan Roos anked 374 on CBS Big Board

          Jordan Roos. How is that guy not ranked way way higher? Won awards in college and they guy looks awesome in these highlights... call me crazy but If I'm Jerry Reese I want my scouts to be looking at this guy..... The Chiefs are looking at him>>>>>http://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2017/...-in-for-visit/

          he is now my favorite DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP Sleeeeeeper

          taht film has WOW after WOW blocks on it.... how does that guy not get more love? quick feet to get into postion on pas plays and Bigtime run blocking ability... looks for extra blocks in the second level....knocks people down.... Love the film on him.

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          • #20
            Storm Norton who was the LT from Toledo. 6'8" 315 with 35" arms. Raw but we can work with that. Probably a 6/7 rounder.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tdawg1413 View Post
              Storm Norton who was the LT from Toledo. 6'8" 315 with 35" arms. Raw but we can work with that. Probably a 6/7 rounder.
              Just read up on him, and he sounds interesting as a late found flier


              STRENGTHS Tall tackle with extremely long legs and arms are well above average for the position at over 35 inches long. Adequate foot quickness in his pass slides. Blocks with good arm extension and utilizes length as a recovery tool when beaten. Better lateral movement than expected. Able to pull and lead block in power. Combo blocks feature strong secure and fluid climb to second level target. Needs more knee bend, but lands at a high rate in space. Mirrors in pass sets with good balance and good posture.
              WEAKNESSES Plays from a two-point stance in Toledo offense. Will have to learn to play from three-point stance and fire out of his stance with better bend. Steps are slow and stiff into his first contact. Hands are strong but placement is too wide. Opponents will land first and jolt him due to natural leverage deficiency because of his height. High-cut frame creates anchor imbalance. Below average redirect against inside counters.
              NFL COMPARISON Pace Murphy
              BOTTOM LINE Towering tackle who operates with adequate body control and balance in both run and pass blocking. Norton gets the most out of his length, but also has the same leverage and anchor issues that almost all tall tackles have. He hasn't faced premier pass rushers or power ends in his conference so projecting him on the next level could be a challenge. If he has enough anchor, he could make an NFL roster.

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              • #22
                http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...most-potential

                the author maybe went toooooooo deep lol

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                • #23
                  Cam robinson overrated according to >>>>>http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2017-nfl-draft

                  ranked 108th tackle in college according to the article. yikes!

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                  • #24
                    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery...-top-32-041217

                    good top ten here...D
                    Last edited by bigpoppy; 04-12-2017, 04:23 PM.

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                    • #25
                      http://lastwordonprofootball.com/201...ound-sleepers/

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kase-1 View Post
                        Just read up on him, and he sounds interesting as a late found flier


                        STRENGTHS Tall tackle with extremely long legs and arms are well above average for the position at over 35 inches long. Adequate foot quickness in his pass slides. Blocks with good arm extension and utilizes length as a recovery tool when beaten. Better lateral movement than expected. Able to pull and lead block in power. Combo blocks feature strong secure and fluid climb to second level target. Needs more knee bend, but lands at a high rate in space. Mirrors in pass sets with good balance and good posture.
                        WEAKNESSES Plays from a two-point stance in Toledo offense. Will have to learn to play from three-point stance and fire out of his stance with better bend. Steps are slow and stiff into his first contact. Hands are strong but placement is too wide. Opponents will land first and jolt him due to natural leverage deficiency because of his height. High-cut frame creates anchor imbalance. Below average redirect against inside counters.
                        NFL COMPARISON Pace Murphy
                        BOTTOM LINE Towering tackle who operates with adequate body control and balance in both run and pass blocking. Norton gets the most out of his length, but also has the same leverage and anchor issues that almost all tall tackles have. He hasn't faced premier pass rushers or power ends in his conference so projecting him on the next level could be a challenge. If he has enough anchor, he could make an NFL roster.

                        Funny, I mentioned him and it seems like we are interested:

                        http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/137583/storm-norton

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                        • #27
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2fhOLK4OuU

                          Aviante Collins 228 on CBS big board

                          Storm Norton is 213

                          The most underrated Tackles in the draft by a wide margin?

                          Check the tape on Collins... He is a really athletic for a big guy and fast. We need a Guy that can handle speed off the edge right? What say you guys?

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                          • #28
                            JORDAN LEGGETT, CLEMSON
                            Leggett, 6-5, 258, played three years for the National Champion Tigers.
                            THE STATS
                            He caught 46 passes for 736 yards with seven touchdowns last fall for Clemson.

                            SCOUTS SAY:
                            "He might sneak into the second day (3rd round), because he's pretty damn athletic. I wouldn't take him until Saturday (4th round). He doesn't always work hard. I mean, with his size, he should be a good blocker and he doesn't block at all.''..."He's a natural talent and he can catch the ball and make plays. But he doesn't play hard all the time. And he doesn't even try to block.''..."His nickname was 'Lazy Leggett', that's not good. There's ability there, get him with the right coach and he might be something. In the wrong place, he could be gone in a year.''

                            Taht is supposedly a scouting report on jordan Legget... Thing is, I've watched him on youtube and the scout is wrong. He blocks. He is the second or third best inline blocker in this Tight End class IMO behind Howard and Kittle. What he does not do is hold his blocks and drive people into the dirt. But he gets the job done. Same can be said of Cam robinson. he does not hold his blocks but if the running back gets a hole does anyone really care?

                            the report is from this article>>>> http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2..._tight_en.html

                            Labels are bad. You cannot sum up a player by a label. Lazy legget does not describe his play just becasue some dumb scout gave him a label.. OK rant over lol

                            Bottom line, jordan legget can play. He is up there among the top 3 or 4 in this draft class for sure IMO.

                            to read that the scout said "he doen't block at all" tells me one of two things.
                            1. the report is total bull**** and there never was any scounting report that said that OR
                            2. The scout should be fired. as either didn't watch the film or if he did then he even moreso deserves to be fired.

                            Let me repeat: JORDAN LEGETT IS A PRETTY GOOD INLINE BLOCKER and one of the better receivers too.

                            The only one who is lazy and doesnt try to block at all is evan engram & that is becasue he is undersized. I fyou want to label someone a lazy blocker it should be skinny Evan.

                            Legget is one fo the better blockers in te TE class as well as one of the better receivers in the tight end class this year in the youtube films. So put that in your scouting report and smoke it! lol

                            There is zero doubt in my mind. as far as TEs who can inline block,

                            1.OJ Howard
                            2. Legget and kittle are about equal with kittle getting the edge as blocker and legget getting the edge as receiver

                            as far as a receiver only there is only one choice Evan Engram. Engram is far and away light years ahead of the rest as a route runner & receiver in my mind.

                            I'm sick of people putting garbage out there without having watched some of the yutube videos for themselves. Especially a reporter! sheesh... get a grip people!@moronsthatregurgitateanddontthinlforthemse lves
                            Last edited by bigpoppy; 04-17-2017, 09:08 PM.

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                            • #29
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDstzp9QxZY

                              Phazahn Odom

                              UDFA prospect or 7th round flier

                              Kid runs really good routes & is surprisingly athletic/smooth looking for such a big man. He is 6'8" and 240. 4.64 40 yd dash. Yes you read that right. lol 6 feet 8 inches.

                              I love this kid as an UDFA or late rounder.. He is raw but i see big-time potential in the vid. Makes all the blocks and a good route runner. has elite size and good football speed and more importantly route running ability..He creates separation AND has the size. Good receiver, good blocker.
                              What's not to like? worth a good look IMO
                              Last edited by bigpoppy; 04-13-2017, 11:15 PM.

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                              • #30
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPwU4sJCf1g

                                Andreas Knappe

                                HUGE 6 8 LT Prospect
                                377 on CBS big board
                                has good feet but not great. He appears to play high but that is probably because he is such a big man. But he does really well in pass protection, looking like a giant among children... wont blow guys off the line in run blocking but can get the job done... surprisingly for such a big man gets out in space to make second level blocks. not as nasty as bolles or some others but his giant frame makes him a wall in pass protection that defenders have little chance of speed or bull rushing.... My amatuer take on him is that he is a good prospect and if he can increase his lower body strength and flexibility to bend, with exercise and technique improvement, especially in run blocking, he can make a good NFL player. Another of the many intriguing late round or UDFA prospects

                                Update, apparently he is climbing up some draft boards...could go early or mid rounds. Keep an eye out for this guy.
                                Last edited by bigpoppy; 04-17-2017, 07:04 PM.

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