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  • Gmen UDFA USC OT Chad Wheeler = NFLdraftscout Top10 UDFA

    Here is what CBS Nfl + NFL Draft Scout says about Chad who is their #10 UDFA

    "10. Chad Wheeler, OT, USC
    With 45 starts at left tackle, Wheeler has an impressive collegiate résumé, including First Team All-Pac 12 honors as a senior, but his checkered medical and off-field history are both red flags. Overall, Wheeler has the natural athleticism and talent to compete for starting reps in the NFL, which will also depend on his reliability."

    Wheeler had a 4th Round grade, higher than our 5th Round pick Bisnowaty, who had a possible 4th-5th Round status, so it's like getting another 4th rounder for us, which is great since our 4th was dropped as a punishment, and we traded our 7th to move up to get Bisnowaty, They're considered "raw and developmental projects" but they have the tools and traits, which is all that matters. They're more than just "bodies to add." They have real chances to become starters or at least backups.

    Both are similar to the Packers Bakhtiari who was considered raw coming out of Colorado IIRC, and was a 4th Round pick, but injuries forced him into starting at LT his rookie year. Bakhktiari has the size and strength but isn't athletic or "freakish"-he uses technique and smarts. Wheeler is the more athletic while Bisnowaty is the more gritty and tougher one. We have a good coaching staff, a good track record with UDFA and I like gritty guys with chips on their shoulders. I think they could develop quickly ad push Flowers and Hart for reps or light a fire under their bums. IN recent years there have been as many busts and booms. Greg Robinson hasn't been as good as advertised. Fluker was drafted ahead of Pugh. So was Joekel who was supposed to be "can't miss" but has been anything but. So we didn't get the sexiest Oline draft picks, but we got more than people are thinking.

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    this is why fans shouldn't get all up in arms about the draft and FA,,,this stuff will work itself out.

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    • #3
      When was the last time the giants developed a late round olineman?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
        When was the last time the giants developed a late round olineman?
        To be fair, none of them has as much talent as Wheeler does. He can play, injuries have been his issue.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tdawg1413 View Post
          To be fair, none of them has as much talent as Wheeler does. He can play, injuries have been his issue.
          Also could of found a gem in Dunker

          Most Don't realize that two of the members of the Dallas All Pro O Line were originally UDFAs
          Last edited by miked1958; 05-09-2017, 11:26 AM.
          Football has been very, very good to us.
          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
          4-New York Giants!!!
          5-NE
          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
            When was the last time the giants developed a late round olineman?
            Diehl, Seubert

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
              Diehl, Seubert
              Rosenthal
              The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.

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              • #8
                LOVE this UDFA, between him, Jones, and Jadar Johnson, I'm liking our UDFA as much as our drsft class
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kase-1 View Post
                  LOVE this UDFA, between him, Jones, and Jadar Johnson, I'm liking our UDFA as much as our drsft class
                  especially Jones. could develop into being better than thomlinson. Like you said looks like a high first rounder on film sometimes. good stuff. just wish we woulda been saying that about a corner back lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                    Also could of found a gem in Dunker

                    Most Don't realize that two of the members of the Dallas All Pro O Line were originally UDFAs
                    Agree with Dunker. He was like the 6th Top Rated Guard by Kiper and other analysts. So with our draft haul and UDFAs, I feel we pulled in a lot of talent and filled most of our most glaring holes. While I still think we need an athletic linebacker who can cover and blitz Kennan Robinson played reeally well for us. Most importantly, between Bisnowaty, Wheeler and Dunker, we have depth, youth and competition on the Oline. While Bisnowaty and Wheeler arent the most atheltic Olineman, they have high motors and nasty streaks which I think has been missing on this line. Both could really push to start at right tackle. Also, something completely over looked on the Oline-continuity. These guys have another year together which should hep with cohesion. I expect the Oline play to improve immensely. All of the prospects arent scrubs-they were all considered 3rd to 4th rounders. Ill take a hustling football player any day over a combine workout warrior and atheletic freak. Football players usually pan out while "freaks" might test out well but often fizzle out in the pros.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                      Also could of found a gem in Dunker

                      Most Don't realize that two of the members of the Dallas All Pro O Line were originally UDFAs
                      Thats because the 3 that are really all pro's were drafted in rounds 1 and 2. If you have Smith, MArtin and Frederick, it makes it a lot easier on the other 2 OLmen. Free and Leary were ok linemen. They will not be as good away from those other 3. WE have Pugh, Richberg and Flowers as our "big 3". Quite different.

                      That said, I like Dunker and Wheeler as UDFAs and think they can replace a Jerry and Hart pretty easily if healthy.
                      WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tdawg1413 View Post
                        To be fair, none of them has as much talent as Wheeler does. He can play, injuries have been his issue.
                        Let's see. We're due..

                        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                        Diehl, Seubert
                        Didn't say they never did. Might be able to add hart to your list.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
                          Let's see. We're due..



                          Didn't say they never did. Might be able to add hart to your list.
                          Would love to add Hart to the list ... good to hear he has been working hard this offseason.

                          Hopefully, competition makes all of these guys better

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
                            When was the last time the giants developed a late round olineman?
                            Bobby Hart

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                              Also could of found a gem in Dunker

                              Most Don't realize that two of the members of the Dallas All Pro O Line were originally UDFAs
                              While I agree that there have been many UDFAs to come out of nowhere and have good careers, La'el Collins is a special case. Technically, he ended up going undrafted but that's only because news broke of a potential crime right before the draft. He would have been a 1st rounder (2nd at the lowest) without that incident.

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