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  • #16
    Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

    [quote user="smashndash715"][quote user="Spizi"]yea I know he's a beast but I know the NFL is racist against white people lol Is he that much better of a prospect than Laurinaitus, Lee, or Poz? He is kinda small.[/quote]

    i dont know how they are racist against white people but ok...i would say he is as good of a prospect as them..and they are all really good in my opinion[/quote] How many white players play defense..... not a lot. the black lbs are more athletic so they may go ahead of him based on potential but luke is a beast.

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    • #17
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      [quote user="Spizi"][quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="Spizi"]Does anyone think Kuechly will fall? I honestly believe he could be there when we pick.

      What separates him from guys like Laurinaitus, Lee, and Posluzny? Those guys were both studs and fell to the top of the second round most likely because they're white. What do you think?[/quote]

      I can't speak for Laurinaitus or Poz, but Lee was a projected second rounder all the way.

      While you could play the race card at certain positions (like CB), I don't see LBer being one of them.

      Having said that, I highly doubt we draft a LB in the first round (although I wouldn't mind and I think Kuechly would be a good choice).[/quote]

      ok cool thanks. I'm sure someone knows about poz and laurinaitus. they were higher profile prospects than lee if I remember correctly.

      I just don't see how all these experts can say that Kuechly is a top 12 talent. He isnt.[/quote]

      You'll see all the draft consensus turned on its head after the Combine.

      Some nobody runs a 4.3 40 and becomes a Top 10 talent while the current Top 10 talent runs a 4.6 and slides to the 3rd round.

      Happens every year.
      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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      • #18
        Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

        true. I remember before this year they had alshon jeffery going number 1 overall in some mocks lol.

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        • #19
          Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

          [quote user="giantman8493"][quote user="smashndash715"][quote user="Spizi"]yea I know he's a beast but I know the NFL is racist against white people lol Is he that much better of a prospect than Laurinaitus, Lee, or Poz? He is kinda small.[/quote]

          i dont know how they are racist against white people but ok...i would say he is as good of a prospect as them..and they are all really good in my opinion[/quote] How many white players play defense..... not a lot. the black lbs are more athletic so they may go ahead of him based on potential but luke is a beast.[/quote]

          Clay Matthews
          Brian Urlacher
          AJ Hawk
          James Laurinitis
          Sean Lee
          Brian Cushing
          ...

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          • #20
            Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

            has no1 heard of brain urlacher? you say the black lbs are more athletic so they go ahead...hmm maybe they are just better( and im white)

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            • #21
              Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

              and there are plenty of nonathletic BLACK lbs...bart scott comes to mind..london fletcher isnt athletic..just really instinctive and reallly good

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              • #22
                Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                [quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="giantman8493"][quote user="smashndash715"][quote user="Spizi"]yea I know he's a beast but I know the NFL is racist against white people lol Is he that much better of a prospect than Laurinaitus, Lee, or Poz? He is kinda small.[/quote]

                i dont know how they are racist against white people but ok...i would say he is as good of a prospect as them..and they are all really good in my opinion[/quote] How many white players play defense..... not a lot. the black lbs are more athletic so they may go ahead of him based on potential but luke is a beast.[/quote]

                Clay Matthews
                Brian Urlacher
                AJ Hawk
                James Laurinitis
                Sean Lee
                Brian Cushing
                ...[/quote]

                and there you go. you named all of them haha. Anyway I just don't see Kuechly going in the top 20. He's not a good enough athlete to warrant that high of a pick.

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                • #23
                  Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                  [quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="giantman8493"][quote user="smashndash715"][quote user="Spizi"]yea I know he's a beast but I know the NFL is racist against white people lol Is he that much better of a prospect than Laurinaitus, Lee, or Poz? He is kinda small.[/quote]

                  i dont know how they are racist against white people but ok...i would say he is as good of a prospect as them..and they are all really good in my opinion[/quote] How many white players play defense..... not a lot. the black lbs are more athletic so they may go ahead of him based on potential but luke is a beast.[/quote]

                  Clay Matthews
                  Brian Urlacher
                  AJ Hawk
                  James Laurinitis
                  Sean Lee
                  Brian Cushing
                  ...[/quote]yeah and i didnt say they couldent.... its just harder.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                    [quote user="smashndash715"]and there are plenty of nonathletic BLACK lbs...bart scott comes to mind..london fletcher isnt athletic..just really instinctive and reallly good[/quote]jesus.. i mean there are expections but the majority is like that.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                      I think unless he shows up to the combine 240+ & can hit a 4.6ish 40 then he'll fall a bit....

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                      • #26
                        Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                        [quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="giantman8493"][quote user="smashndash715"][quote user="Spizi"]yea I know he's a beast but I know the NFL is racist against white people lol Is he that much better of a prospect than Laurinaitus, Lee, or Poz? He is kinda small.[/quote]

                        i dont know how they are racist against white people but ok...i would say he is as good of a prospect as them..and they are all really good in my opinion[/quote] How many white players play defense..... not a lot. the black lbs are more athletic so they may go ahead of him based on potential but luke is a beast.[/quote]

                        Clay Matthews
                        Brian Urlacher
                        AJ Hawk
                        James Laurinitis
                        Sean Lee
                        Brian Cushing
                        ...[/quote]

                        "He's a high motor player..."

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                        • #27
                          Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                          [quote user="myles2424"]I think unless he shows up to the combine 240+ & can hit a 4.6ish 40 then he'll fall a bit....[/quote]

                          40 means almost nothing to a MLB. The cone drills and other quickness drills will matter way more.

                          The only time 40 matters is when someone puts up a REALLY good or bad number. Otherwise , it is a throwaway stat. How many times a season does a MLB run 40 yards in a straight line? Maybe 5?
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                          • #28
                            Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                            [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="myles2424"]I think unless he shows up to the combine 240+ & can hit a 4.6ish 40 then he'll fall a bit....[/quote]

                            40 means almost nothing to a MLB. The cone drills and other quickness drills will matter way more.

                            The only time 40 matters is when someone puts up a REALLY good or bad number. Otherwise , it is a throwaway* stat. How many times a season does a MLB run 40 yards in a straight line? Maybe 5?
                            [/quote]

                            The 40 actually does apply here since you're evaluating someone asked to play from sideline to sideline.

                            Though Kuechly's stock shouldn't move drastically just because of the combine. The majority of teams' player evaluations should have occurred already, and I certainly don't think Kuechly will interview poorly or show any sign of poor work ethic. If he drops, it is simply because he is a mlb.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                              [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="myles2424"]I think unless he shows up to the combine 240+ & can hit a 4.6ish 40 then he'll fall a bit....[/quote]

                              40 means almost nothing to a MLB. The cone drills and other quickness drills will matter way more.

                              The only time 40 matters is when someone puts up a REALLY good or bad number. Otherwise , it is a throwaway* stat. How many times a season does a MLB run 40 yards in a straight line? Maybe 5?
                              [/quote] I agree.....but a prospect asked to cover a lot of ground running a 4.5-6 sounds much better than 4.7-8.....regardless 40 time can still effectct his stock

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                              • #30
                                Re: Luke Kuechly @ 32

                                I still have reservations about his not being "athletic." I encourage anyone to go watch his 2011 game vs FSU. Its really hard to see all the movement FSU made him do and still doubt his ability to move around.

                                He may not be the best athlete in the class, but I do think he is a good 1. I still think he may surprise at the combine.
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