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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
    •Giants linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka: “I haven't been held like that since I was a baby.”



    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-r.../post/20068948
    I thought it was JPP that should have done the complaining. Go back and look. he had guys draped on him all night. Even on 2 of the TD passes romo would have been sacked if not for the holds. however they wre not calling them either way so i am fine with it
    Football has been very, very good to us.
    After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
    But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

    # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

    1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
    2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
    3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
    4-New York Giants!!!
    5-NE
    Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

    ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
      Oh please. Get over yourself and more importantly get over the idea that your team is any different than the rest in the NFL.

      What Kiwi said isn't on the same level as the Packers and 9ers statements (which were ridiculed here), but it's in the same ballpark. Excuses are excuses.
      There was holding that wasn’t called from both teams. The referrees let them play. It wsn’t a big deal.

      Kiwi is just a little frustrated and maybe a little bit of humble pie will do us some good. Dallas Cowboys were the better team last night and they deserved to win. We will beat them next time.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
        •Giants linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka: “I haven't been held like that since I was a baby.”



        http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-r.../post/20068948

        Kiwi played last night? Go figure...........

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jobberone View Post
          I think the refs did ok considering. But they clearly had a hard time with the holding calls. They got a couple but I think they were mostly on Dallas. I think Kiwanuka said that with a smile so no problem there. Both OLs were holding and both were getting away with as much as they could. Both DLs are a strength and both OLs need some work. I was pleasantly surprised by the Dallas OL getting Murray some yards later on. Not so much with the NY running game. Both teams inside LBs were better this year. Rivers played well. Hard to tell what the NY secondary will be like with all the people out and injured. That could be a problem for NY. I'm surprised Eli and Cruz aren't getting more heat. Dallas's DBs are way better this year but I don't know about the depth there either.

          Why would Eli be taking heat for last night? Sure, he could have gotten out a bit quicker on his leads blocks on running plays but other than that.........

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
            Oh I agree wholeheartedly. There was a ton of holding on both sides.

            Just wondering what you guys thought of this comment.
            He never should have said it. Making excuses and sounding weak in pro football is a no no. That said, there was a lot of cuddling between both clubs :P

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hessian View Post
              He never should have said it. Making excuses and sounding weak in pro football is a no no. That said, there was a lot of cuddling between both clubs :P
              Was there calls or Non calls in this case that effected the game. sure. there are in every game for all 32 teams. It just seems in last several years the giants have had more then their fair share of them the actually cost them a win vs GB last season and several other cases I wont mention here as there are tons of threads on them

              With that said, Dallas will come to a few times in the season where its fanbase will be complaining about a loss because of a bad call or lack of a call. What goes around comes around. not saying cruz hold was the difference as the giants would of still lost by 3. however when you see a star DE getting not just held but almost tackled on every play its gets a little comical. also was listening to a sports station that was saying that BB was really happen what he saw the cowboys getting away with on the Giants WRs.. the announcer said BB will have his players do it all day until its called
              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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              • #22
                The replacement refs sucked, on both ends

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
                  Agreed with the missed call on Cruz. But I think the calls balanced each other out.

                  They pushed the Cowboys back continually to the point of a 1st and 30 (and almost out of FG range), but they came right back and scored a TD.

                  And then took away a 'would be game icing' Murray 3rd down conversion by calling a hold on Witten. But the Cowboys still converted on 3rd and 11.
                  Amen brother. It's a glorious thing walking around here in NJ with a different Cowboys shirt on every day! The sad/frustrated looks are priceless. The Giants didn't do a whole lot to win that game. They couldn't stop Romo. They had trouble with our defense. They had a huge advantage in number of penalties, but couldn't stop us regardless of how many yards we needed to cover. We had a significant advantage in yards and time of possession. Dallas beat the Giants. Period. Kiwi needs to go suck a pacifier like the "baby" he is. While he's at it, he can have mommy rub some A&D ointment on his chest where Murray crushed him to start that big run. Go Cowboys!!!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Downy Eli View Post
                    Amen brother. It's a glorious thing walking around here in NJ with a different Cowboys shirt on every day! The sad/frustrated looks are priceless. The Giants didn't do a whole lot to win that game. They couldn't stop Romo. They had trouble with our defense. They had a huge advantage in number of penalties, but couldn't stop us regardless of how many yards we needed to cover. We had a significant advantage in yards and time of possession. Dallas beat the Giants. Period. Kiwi needs to go suck a pacifier like the "baby" he is. While he's at it, he can have mommy rub some A&D ointment on his chest where Murray crushed him to start that big run. Go Cowboys!!!
                    Enjoy it while you can, I'm sure this makes up for all those years not winning a playoff game since 1996.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Dwinsballgames View Post
                      Enjoy it while you can, I'm sure this makes up for all those years not winning a playoff game since 1996.
                      that doesnt really matter right "now" does it?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ProfessorCrue View Post
                        that doesnt really matter right "now" does it?
                        No more or less than this game's lack of "matter", unless you win the SB (this year).

                        Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
                        Oh I agree wholeheartedly. There was a ton of holding on both sides.

                        Just wondering what you guys thought of this comment.
                        If the rest of the season allows O-lines to hold as much as the game with you guys, our pass rush
                        advantage may be negated for the entire season. If the new refs are just not going to call
                        penalties, I suggest we commit them out the wazoo and see what sticks.
                        Last edited by OX1; 09-08-2012, 07:43 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Kiwi got tackled on the broken play long run by Murray.

                          That being said, the Giants did not lose this game because of the officiating.

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