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  • #31
    Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
    Come on guys, the OP wasn't THAT bad. Of course he is excited that his team just made an NFL record yesterday. You dang right know we would be boasting about it too if we put up 300 yards of passing and rushing on the Browns. I'd say he was pretty classy and respectful with his introduction.
    I agree....the OP made some valid points. He had an opinion, and backed it up with some stats and explanations.

    Frankly, the 49ers are looking like a very solid team....and it's pretty clear that by going after Jacobs and Manningham, they look at the NY Giants as the team to beat. Which they should.....because the Giants are the Champs right now.
    "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

    "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Eli TO Shockey View Post
      what happens when alex smith falls behind? the Vikings game comes to mind. the REAL alex smith shows up. nothing more than a game manager..
      He has not led a comeback this season because the only game we've trailed in is the vikings game. However, don't you remember the Saints playoff game last year. He also led us back from a 21 poiont decifit against the eagles last season so its not like he has never comeback. Also, the Vikings ran the ball and completely controlled the tempo of the game. Last I check running the ball is not the Giants strength and we currently are one of the best D's against the pass. Good luck but logic and matchups point for disappoint for you.

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      • #33
        49ers fans popping up everywhere right now.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
          Anything is possible. Don't underestimate Prince Amukamara (who is quietly playing a very good season) and if our rookie CB Hosley plays this game, he's an excellent slot corner. Webster is always due for a great game as well.
          Hosley, Will Hill, and Stevie Brown have really impressed me. I feel much better about the secondary. My concern is matching up someone with Vernon Davis.
          "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

          "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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          • #35
            Manningham was a good pick up, we will see how he does against us. Jacobs also was a good pickup but he has to make it onto the field and actually made some good running plays. We will see if he hurts below is pads or up high still..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
              Hosley, Will Hill, and Stevie Brown have really impressed me. I feel much better about the secondary. My concern is matching up someone with Vernon Davis.
              Fingers crossed Rivers is healthy. Him and J Williams have some serious speed at the LB position. I'm thinking the match up with him with one of those 2 guys.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by chuy View Post
                He has not led a comeback this season because the only game we've trailed in is the vikings game. However, don't you remember the Saints playoff game last year. He also led us back from a 21 poiont decifit against the eagles last season so its not like he has never comeback. Also, the Vikings ran the ball and completely controlled the tempo of the game. Last I check running the ball is not the Giants strength and we currently are one of the best D's against the pass. Good luck but logic and matchups point for disappoint for you.
                You must have missed yesterday's curb-stomping of the Browns.

                Seriously, you've got a good team. But, right now, the Giants are in your head, baby.
                "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by chuy View Post
                  He has not led a comeback this season because the only game we've trailed in is the vikings game. However, don't you remember the Saints playoff game last year. He also led us back from a 21 poiont decifit against the eagles last season so its not like he has never comeback. Also, the Vikings ran the ball and completely controlled the tempo of the game. Last I check running the ball is not the Giants strength and we currently are one of the best D's against the pass. Good luck but logic and matchups point for disappoint for you.
                  The Giants are ranked 12th overall for running the ball. Granted, that stat is a bit inflated from the Panthers and Browns games but so are your stats taking advantage of a Bills defense that even the Jets owned.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by chuy View Post
                    He has not led a comeback this season because the only game we've trailed in is the vikings game. However, don't you remember the Saints playoff game last year. He also led us back from a 21 poiont decifit against the eagles last season so its not like he has never comeback. Also, the Vikings ran the ball and completely controlled the tempo of the game. Last I check running the ball is not the Giants strength and we currently are one of the best D's against the pass. Good luck but logic and matchups point for disappoint for you.
                    Logic and matchups went out the window in the Vikings game. And since you know NOTHING about the Giants. They play there best ball on the road and when the odds are against them.

                    Giants fan since the early 80s

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                      The Giants are ranked 12th overall for running the ball. Granted, that stat is a bit inflated from the Panthers and Browns games but so are your stats taking advantage of a Bills defense that even the Jets owned.
                      True....the Bills couldn't beat Alabama.
                      "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                      "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                        Nice writeup OP. I want your thoughts on this possible scenario: The 49ers are down by two possessions to the Giants (Any moment in the game will suffice) due to an unexpected surge by the Giants offense. Do the 49ers make any changes to their offensive gameplan and if they go to the pass more, is there confidence in any of their receiving options sans Vernon Davis?

                        I respect what the 49ers bring out on the field but I do want to see them win a come from behind game this year to solidify their mental toughness in such a situation. The Falcons did that against the Panthers and that's why I have them ranked as the best team in the NFL as of this moment.
                        It depends on when it is in the game. I think if its 1st half or early in the 3rd quarter we do not abandon our gameplan. We still tout one of the best D's in the league so we would trust them to keep you guys from scoring and we try to chop down the lead. Now if we're talking late 3rd quarter or 4th then of course we start to throw more. We do have experience coming back by multiple scores (eagles game last season) and multiple times in the 4th quarter (saints playoff game last season). I hope it doesn't come down to this.

                        Now ask yourself that question. What if you guys get down by 2 scores against the 2nd best pass D in the league, what will you do then?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by chuy View Post
                          He has not led a comeback this season because the only game we've trailed in is the vikings game. However, don't you remember the Saints playoff game last year. He also led us back from a 21 poiont decifit against the eagles last season so its not like he has never comeback. Also, the Vikings ran the ball and completely controlled the tempo of the game. Last I check running the ball is not the Giants strength and we currently are one of the best D's against the pass. Good luck but logic and matchups point for disappoint for you.
                          "matchups" didnt bode well for your team against the vikings. "matchups" didnt bode well for your team in the playoffs either. I watched the vikings game and saw alex smith, the same alex smith i have been seeing for the past 8 years...an average quarterback. I just find it hard to believe he'd be this same QB if he was asked to do more..or played for a team that actually had some flaws and needed the QB to take the team to the next level. He's a good fit for your team...a game manager. nothing wrong with that...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by chuy View Post
                            Now ask yourself that question. What if you guys get down by 2 scores against the 2nd best pass D in the league, what will you do then?
                            Abuse Carlos Rogers? Tarell Brown isn't too shabby but not unbeatable either. We face better defensive backs in our own division against the Cowboys and Eagles so we're used to secondaries that are good. Depending on the amount of time left on the clock, I'm not too worried about your pass coverage unless you switch to multiple nickel and dime packages.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by ny06 View Post
                              Logic and matchups went out the window in the Vikings game. And since you know NOTHING about the Giants. They play there best ball on the road and when the odds are against them.
                              First of all the Vikings are 4-1 and clearly a good team so they just beat us. Second, you guys are a passing team and right now we have the 2nd best pass D in the league and that is after playing the Pack and the Lions. A wish to play well because you feel you are the underdogs is nice and all but is a bit of a stretch to in any way validate that we should expect a loss.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by chuy View Post
                                It depends on when it is in the game. I think if its 1st half or early in the 3rd quarter we do not abandon our gameplan. We still tout one of the best D's in the league so we would trust them to keep you guys from scoring and we try to chop down the lead. Now if we're talking late 3rd quarter or 4th then of course we start to throw more. We do have experience coming back by multiple scores (eagles game last season) and multiple times in the 4th quarter (saints playoff game last season). I hope it doesn't come down to this.

                                Now ask yourself that question. What if you guys get down by 2 scores against the 2nd best pass D in the league, what will you do then?
                                Let Eli Manning draw from his NFL record breaking experience in the realm of come back football and do it once again. A 2 score lead at any point in the game (other than when 0:00 is on the clock in the 4th) won't be enough not even for a top calibur defense like the 49ers. You better hope the 49ers get up 21+ points or they'll be taking a big risk in allowing the Giants to hang around by being up anything less than that.
                                Over 7000 posts, advanced member, joined March 2002. 1st post (as anonymous) was the day after Super Bowl 35

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