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Holy ****!!! Cheifs LB Jovan Belcher murder/suicide!!!

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Parademon View Post
    Your welcome bigblue. Don't mean to come off sounding mean but the bottom line is he commited murder, NFL would have been stupid to cancel a game for a murderer.
    nahh I understand you, but knowing people with brain issues I kinda feel for Belcher too. again definitely not saying what he did wasn't terrible, but that all the statements that make him seem like a monster bother me altittle.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bigblue2088 View Post
      first of all thanks for your service. secondly I said this somewhere else too, all of the hits he took to the head has to have something to do with this. after all the head injuries and everything that went on within his brain cells, I think it's safe to say it wasn't functioning completely normal. I'm not saying what he did is right but we shouldn't jump to conclusions
      Do you know for a fact that he took many severe blows to the head? I mean, beyond what of most NFL linebackers endure? And I've never heard any clinical evidence that head trauma causes someone to become psychotic or suicidal.

      Talk about jumping to conclusions.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by krygny View Post
        Do you know for a fact that he took many severe blows to the head? I mean, beyond what of most NFL linebackers endure? And I've never heard any clinical evidence that head trauma causes someone to become psychotic or suicidal.

        Talk about jumping to conclusions.
        I'm not saying he did tho! lol I know what he did is wrong and im not defending him but a small part of me feels bad for him and I'm sorry if it bothers you. And just like how Junior Seau died, all of those hits to the head do have long term effects. And he's a professional football player, linebacker for that matter, I'm pretty sure that he had had some head injuries in his lifetime. And again I'm not saying that's the reason why or trying to jump to conclusions but him having CTE is a possibility but a relationship issue is more likely
        Last edited by bigblue2088; 12-02-2012, 01:04 AM.

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        • #19
          Feel very badly for his mom who actually witnessed him shoot the girlfriend.

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          • #20
            I wonder if they're gonna tell the baby growing up. The kids still only 3 months so I doubt he/she will remember or even know what happened. That would be hard growing up knowing what happened to your parents in that circumstance. Question is how long can you keep it a secret?

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            • #21
              Shocking and Very Sad News

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bigblue2088 View Post
                I'm not saying he did tho! lol I know what he did is wrong and im not defending him but a small part of me feels bad for him and I'm sorry if it bothers you. And just like how Junior Seau died, all of those hits to the head do have long term effects. And he's a professional football player, linebacker for that matter, I'm pretty sure that he had had some head injuries in his lifetime. And again I'm not saying that's the reason why or trying to jump to conclusions but him having CTE is a possibility but a relationship issue is more likely
                Well, we'll see if it was narcotics, steroids, a fight that went overboard...or if there indeed was something wrong in his head.

                I don't know his name but there was a Chief who...pretty much disappeared off the face of the Earth. Wife noticed some things were off with him, he was an emotionless empty shell and one day he just left the house and never came back.
                For a Giant fan that I personally knew: My mom. May she smile and be delighted whenever her favorite player - Victor Cruz - scores a touchdown and does his salsa dance.

                Thank you mom for everything! Let's Go Giants!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by krygny View Post
                  Do you know for a fact that he took many severe blows to the head? I mean, beyond what of most NFL linebackers endure? And I've never heard any clinical evidence that head trauma causes someone to become psychotic or suicidal.

                  Talk about jumping to conclusions.
                  Read up on CTE. Absolutely clinically proven to cause depression, confussion, aggression, and dementia.

                  CTE cant be diagnosed in a living person, has to be tested for in an autopsy. It is almost guaranteed to be found in anyone who has suffered multiple head injuries.

                  Not sure if they can test Belcher, depends what parts of his brain are still there to be studied.


                  Now even if his relationship was having problems, the CTE could very well have been what made him aggressive, confused, and ultimately why he made a rather crazy decision.
                  Last edited by slipknottin; 12-02-2012, 02:09 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Parademon View Post
                    As a former Jarhead that did 2 combat tours in Iraq in 03' & the Stan in 04', I ain't gonna lose any sleep over this murderer killing himself. I feel for the 3 month old daughter that her dad ended up killing her mom. More than likely, she was either gonna divorce him or he found out she was playing him & he wasn't man enough to just except it & walk away & continue to just be a dad to his daughter & love & support her.

                    He took a coward's way out but unfortunately decided to take his baby's mom with him. Glad the NFL isn't cancelling the game. Life goes on.

                    First off, SEMPER FI my brother...I was in in 92. Had my fun in the desert too. This POS does not even deserve to be mentioned. The poor girl will be effed up for life, never knowing why her scum bag father took the life of her mother. As a proud dad expecting my second child in less than two weeks, i understand how stressful things can get...money, mortgage, clothes etc. This guy was a pro athlete so i doubt cash was the problem. New mothers can often get completely hormonal and act like lunatics, but as a man, you need to think of the children and do whatever it takes to give them a solid foundation in life. He is a murderer and I hope i dont see his # on helmets or any of that nonsense. Shame that had to happen.

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                    • #25
                      Deadspin has an article up which is a conversation they had with someone close to him. Days belcher was a heavy drinker, and was on prescription pain killers. Also says that after he played in the bengals game he had major short term memory problems and was very disoriented. Bet just the accumulation of all of those made the guy essentially lose control

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                      • #26
                        Deadspin also said that he had some anger issues in college, putting his hand through a window. It may very well have been several factors - personality, mental illness, substance abuse, CTE, etc... that culminated in a tragedy.

                        Clearly, I don't know the details of this and how impulsive it was. And, I'm by no means against people owning guns in their own home, but I used to work as a suicide researcher and I can't tell you how many tragedies (suicides and murder/suicides) seemed to be impulsive actions where someone grabs the gun and it's all over. If someone really wants to commit murder or suicide, they will find a way if the gun isn't there. But the impulsive ones are just so sad. Please reconsider owning a gun or living in a house with a gun if there's any hint that you are with someone with impulsive tendencies or a quick temper. Please if there's anyone in your family who you think could be depressed, don't have the gun in the house until you are confident that it has passed. Don't give someone in danger the chance to act that impulsively. Even a minute to take a deep breath can make a big difference.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by bELIeve_in_Giants View Post
                          Deadspin also said that he had some anger issues in college, putting his hand through a window. It may very well have been several factors - personality, mental illness, substance abuse, CTE, etc... that culminated in a tragedy.

                          Clearly, I don't know the details of this and how impulsive it was. And, I'm by no means against people owning guns in their own home, but I used to work as a suicide researcher and I can't tell you how many tragedies (suicides and murder/suicides) seemed to be impulsive actions where someone grabs the gun and it's all over. If someone really wants to commit murder or suicide, they will find a way if the gun isn't there. But the impulsive ones are just so sad. Please reconsider owning a gun or living in a house with a gun if there's any hint that you are with someone with impulsive tendencies or a quick temper. Please if there's anyone in your family who you think could be depressed, don't have the gun in the house until you are confident that it has passed. Don't give someone in danger the chance to act that impulsively. Even a minute to take a deep breath can make a big difference.

                          +1

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                          • #28
                            I think Bob Costa's anti gun rant was extremely inappropriate. Not to get political, but I don't watch the NFL to hear political discussion. Not only that, but it was extremely insensitive to the families and friends involved in this tragedy.

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                            • #29
                              big blue, he was only 25, I'd be shocked if by that age he already took that many hits to account for brain damage that serious

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by gmenfan0488 View Post
                                big blue, he was only 25, I'd be shocked if by that age he already took that many hits to account for brain damage that serious
                                They have found CTE in football players who were in highschool!

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