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  • #31
    Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
    One thing for sure after a decade or so of the NFCE remaining mostly stable, the landscape will be drastically changed from this point forward.

    I hate and have hated any kind or Run-Option, Wildcat, Wild-Dolphin, etc kind of Offense in the Pro-League the instant it got "introduced."

    It seems cheap and phony but let's be real here.

    Is it not the job of every HC and his Assistants to gameplan to secure a Win? So if that means tricking you with the QB out on the edge or running the freaking Pistol set to throw, run or option-run, well...

    If Reese does his due diligence he recognize the threat RGP represents and begin to acquire pieces to better spy, contain or hit that *******. Also Alfred Morris is no one to sneeze at...

    Also Rob Ryan's Defense did improve and most likely only gets better from this point forward.

    As to the Eagles, they will be the most radically changed so who knows what they will morph into?

    I hear ya, but here's hoping the GIants front office doesn't make the mistake of allowing the moronic media mindset into the draft room by drafting to defend one guy or one team. That's idiotic. Very good teams draft to improve themselves, not to chase the false notion that they need to react to some other team.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
      I strongly disagree. I think Griffin has far superior QB skills. Vick has never been more than fair to middlin'.
      truthful statement.

      Vick is/ was a QB who runs and can throw (somewhat).

      RGP is a QB who throws and can run.

      Subtle, but there is a difference.


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      • #33
        Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
        truthful statement.

        Vick is/ was a QB who runs and can throw (somewhat).

        RGP is a QB who throws and can run.

        Subtle, but there is a difference.

        Exactly. Griffin seems to be able to beat you with his arm. While it hasn't been tested very much yet, he certainly seems to have very good passing skills. Vick doesn't and never did. No team that dared Vick to beat them with his arm was disappointed in the results.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
          I hear ya, but here's hoping the GIants front office doesn't make the mistake of allowing the moronic media mindset into the draft room by drafting to defend one guy or one team. That's idiotic. Very good teams draft to improve themselves, not to chase the false notion that they need to react to some other team.
          Oh I understand you completely, but to me, and this is why I am NOT a NFL scout, coach etc; to me we seem to lack overall speed on our Defense, specifically from the edge.

          I mean Osi, JPP even Tracy a few times have shown us burst but no one is consistent with the edge pressure. I would love to see opponent pockets collapse or in the process of collapse as the Ends and/or Backers push the Tackles into the QB.

          I believe we need to refocus not only a Pass Rush but a legitimate Run Stop unit. (How many 1st downs/ TDs did they give up?) 3rd and shorts is where the D makes it money.

          My two-cents worth.


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          • #35
            Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
            Oh I understand you completely, but to me, and this is why I am NOT a NFL scout, coach etc; to me we seem to lack overall speed on our Defense, specifically from the edge.

            I mean Osi, JPP even Tracy a few times have shown us burst but no one is consistent with the edge pressure. I would love to see opponent pockets collapse or in the process of collapse as the Ends and/or Backers push the Tackles into the QB.

            I believe we need to refocus not only a Pass Rush but a legitimate Run Stop unit. (How many 1st downs/ TDs did they give up?) 3rd and shorts is where the D makes it money.

            My two-cents worth.
            I agree with you, my point was simply (and I'm no NFL professional either) is that our slow footed, undisciplined defense needs to be upgraded to complete against all teams. It's got nothing to do with the Redskins. You don't win in this league with a slow, undisciplined and overpursuing defensive front. And we absolutely need run stoppers. This team is embarrassing against the run.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
              I hear ya, but here's hoping the GIants front office doesn't make the mistake of allowing the moronic media mindset into the draft room by drafting to defend one guy or one team. That's idiotic. Very good teams draft to improve themselves, not to chase the false notion that they need to react to some other team.
              You don't think the league is going towards at least highly mobile QB across the board?
              I don't see it as defending only one guy.

              8 QB;'s that have at least 4 rushing TD's this year and 5 who have have well over 300 yards.

              http://pickingpros.com/nfl/quarterba...ng-leaders.php

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              • #37
                Originally posted by OX1 View Post
                You don't think the league is going towards at least highly mobile QB across the board?
                I don't see it as defending only one guy.

                8 QB;'s that have at least 4 rushing TD's this year and 5 who have have well over 300 yards.

                http://pickingpros.com/nfl/quarterba...ng-leaders.php

                Never said that. See last post.

                Absolutely the migration toward a more mobile style of QB warrants attention, but that's all. It doesn't necessitate any kind of wholesale changing of defensive personnel or structure as I've been reading over and over on these boards.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
                  Never said that. See last post.

                  Absolutely the migration toward a more mobile style of QB warrants attention, but that's all. It doesn't necessitate any kind of wholesale changing of defensive personnel or structure as I've been reading over and over on these boards.
                  Depends on what personnel you currently have. If your D is dog slow overall, then you need to upgrade quite a bit.

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                  • #39
                    RG3's gonna be a force to be reckoned with for tomorrow, as are the redskins. Morris had a great year too, if they fix their defense, they'll be tough for a while. RG3's a quarterback and should run less, he's good and smart with the football

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by OX1 View Post
                      Depends on what personnel you currently have. If your D is dog slow overall, then you need to upgrade quite a bit.
                      True but it that's the case that defense wouldn't be effective against any team.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by gmenfan0488 View Post
                        RG3's gonna be a force to be reckoned with for tomorrow, as are the redskins. Morris had a great year too, if they fix their defense, they'll be tough for a while. RG3's a quarterback and should run less, he's good and smart with the football
                        I think they'll be good and tough for as long as their owner allows good football people to run the team. If he stays out of it, they'll be good for a long time which is good news for the NFCE because they'd been irrelevant for a long time.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by gmenfan0488 View Post
                          RG3's gonna be a force to be reckoned with for tomorrow, as are the redskins. Morris had a great year too, if they fix their defense, they'll be tough for a while. RG3's a quarterback and should run less, he's good and smart with the football
                          RGIII is completely legit in my mind but there is a major issue with how the Redskins are using him. If they continue to run that Gimmick offense, RGIII could have a major injury as soon as this weekend. How many times has he been injured this year? Two times or was it three? This is the NFL and NFL linebackers are probably licking their chops when he close by.

                          Anyway, its too late for the Redskins to make any major adjustments to their offense at this point so I anticipate seeing some more RGIII runs. I hope for this kids sake he doesn't get injured cause from what I've seen, he is a pretty stand up guy.

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                          • #43
                            Instead of hoping for RG3 to get injured in the future, I'm hoping for the Giants to upgrade their defense in the future so the Redskins don't become an automatic two losses for seasons to come.

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                            • #44
                              We missed playoffs by one point. Unreal. Had we made the field goal we missed at Fed Ex field, we would have beaten RG3 and the 'Skins 19-17. We would have been the NFC East champs. Record would have been this: Final result: New York Giants- 10-6, Washington Redskins- 9-7. Revenge will be so sweet this September.
                              2017 Mock Draft

                              1st: Forrest Lamp, OG Western Kentucky
                              2nd: Caleb Brantley, DT Florida
                              3rd: Gerald Everett, TE South Alabama
                              4th: Dont'a Foreman, RB Texas
                              5th: Damontae Kazee, CB San Diego State
                              6th: KD Cannon, WR Baylor
                              7th: Jalen Reeves-Maybin, LB Tennessee

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sean Montemayor View Post
                                We missed playoffs by one point. Unreal. Had we made the field goal we missed at Fed Ex field, we would have beaten RG3 and the 'Skins 19-17. We would have been the NFC East champs. Record would have been this: Final result: New York Giants- 10-6, Washington Redskins- 9-7. Revenge will be so sweet this September.
                                Not exactly how things work, considering the field goal miss was well before the end of the game, but keep saying that.

                                The redskins also were well within Field Goal range while running out the clock. These are the dumbest arguments fans make (of all teams).

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