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  • If Cold Weather Playoff Games Are Not An Issue With Opponents To The NY Open Air SB..

    Then whats wrong with a cold weather Super Bowl?
    Where is it written that the Super Bowl was meant to be played in pristine conditions?
    If teams have to deal with fair or unfair advantages in inclement playoff weather to GET to the SB, how is it anymore unfair for one side or another to play in inclement SUPER BOWL weather?
    I love it that the SB will be at MetLife...and I hope it's cold as a ***** and snowing like hell too!
    And besides watching REAL football...... any bad weather that shortens or cancels the halftime show can ONLY be a plus!
    "I'M ALL FOR IT!"

    John McKay, HC of the 1976 winless TB Buccaneers, when asked by a reporter, how McKay felt, about the execution of his offense.

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    Because there isn't supposed to be any advantage either way. If a cold weather team makes it to the superbowl against a warm weather or dome team, one could argue there is an advantage for the former.

    The weather is not supposed to influence a championship game.

    Personally, I don't care to watch players slip and slide around in slush no more than I'd care to watch two teams drop like flies due to 100+ temperatures on the field. Make the field as neutral as possible and see which team has the better squad.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
      Because there isn't supposed to be any advantage either way. If a cold weather team makes it to the superbowl against a warm weather or dome team, one could argue there is an advantage for the former.

      The weather is not supposed to influence a championship game.

      Personally, I don't care to watch players slip and slide around in slush no more than I'd care to watch two teams drop like flies due to 100+ temperatures on the field. Make the field as neutral as possible and see which team has the better squad.
      But playing in a dome will benefit dome teams over cold weather teams. It works both way. NFL teams are supposed to handle bad weather and adjust.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
        Because there isn't supposed to be any advantage either way. If a cold weather team makes it to the superbowl against a warm weather or dome team, one could argue there is an advantage for the former.

        The weather is not supposed to influence a championship game.

        Personally, I don't care to watch players slip and slide around in slush no more than I'd care to watch two teams drop like flies due to 100+ temperatures on the field. Make the field as neutral as possible and see which team has the better squad.
        So if a dome team plays a team who plays on natural grass outdoors wouldn't the dome team have an advantage?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
          Because there isn't supposed to be any advantage either way. If a cold weather team makes it to the superbowl against a warm weather or dome team, one could argue there is an advantage for the former.

          The weather is not supposed to influence a championship game.

          Personally, I don't care to watch players slip and slide around in slush no more than I'd care to watch two teams drop like flies due to 100+ temperatures on the field. Make the field as neutral as possible and see which team has the better squad.
          Well, unless you want all Super Bowls in domes, warm weather locales can still of torrential downpours during games. Hell, Dallas had an ice storm 2 years ago.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TroyArcher View Post
            So if a dome team plays a team who plays on natural grass outdoors wouldn't the dome team have an advantage?
            The last time that scenario happened was in 2002, but it certainly didn't help the Rams beat the Pats. Since 2000 that scenario has only happened one other time and the reverse was true... the Rams beat the Titans. So since 2000, that's a draw.

            But you have a point (as does ElidaMANning). Dome teams MAY have something to gain over cold weather or outdoor teams.



            Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
            ...NFL teams are supposed to handle bad weather and adjust.
            To elaborate, the best teams overcome all conditions.

            Admittedly I was basing my thoughts off of age old thinking. You always hear pundits and fans alike claiming 'wow, we don't want to have to go into Lambeau or (x-cold weather team's stadium), but you don't hear the same for places like the Georgia Dome or (x-dome team's stadium)... except maybe New Orleans, but that's more of a crowd noise factor than anything.

            But then I took some time and a quick glance at playoff brackets from the last 5 or 6 years, and it's pretty consistent that match-ups between dome teams and cold weather or outdoor teams are pretty much a toss up. What's really consistent is that the better team during that span won the games.

            Which shouldn't really surprise me since I'm always trying to debunk the notion that Eli would be a better quarterback if he played in a dome-- it's simply not true. His performance is affected more by the team he is facing than the elements. The same could be said about all QBs.

            So would like to emphatically agree with your point that that NFL teams are supposed to handle bad weather and adjust, and the same could be said about adjusting to the better foot speed in a warmer dome.



            ...Still wouldn't care to watch teams slop it out on a slushy field for a championship.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Drez View Post
              Well, unless you want all Super Bowls in domes, warm weather locales can still of torrential downpours during games. Hell, Dallas had an ice storm 2 years ago.
              For me it's just a personal preference.

              I personally would prefer every stadium hosting the superbowl to be like Reliant in Houston or UOP in Arizona. Retractable roof and actual grass.

              I cross my fingers and hope it doesn't rain every year the superbowl is outdoors. 2006 was hard to watch.

              Side note; Dallas having an ice storm isn't all that crazy. It's unlikely, but DFW probably has some of the most unpredictable weather in the nation. There was another ice storm in March that very same year. Usually in March we're already starting to burn and/or taking shelter in our bathrooms when tornado warnings get 'serious'-- hence cowboys stadium has a retractable roof.
              Last edited by Ntegrase96; 02-13-2013, 07:19 PM.

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              • #8
                I think the primary reason against cold weather Super Bowls has less to do with the game and the teams and more to do with the Super Bowl weekend activities and the dignitaries who are coming to watch.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
                  For me it's just a personal preference.

                  I personally would prefer every stadium hosting the superbowl to be like Reliant in Houston or UOP in Arizona. Retractable roof and actual grass.

                  I cross my fingers and hope it doesn't rain every year the superbowl is outdoors. 2006 was hard to watch.

                  Side note; Dallas having an ice storm isn't all that crazy. It's unlikely, but DFW probably has some of the most unpredictable weather in the nation. There was another ice storm in March that very same year. Usually in March we're already starting to burn and/or taking shelter in our bathrooms when tornado warnings get 'serious'-- hence cowboys stadium has a retractable roof.
                  Yeah, but all outdoor games have a good chance of having weather play a role in the game. Sure, the cold adds an extra element of difficulty (hard footballs that are harder to throw, catch, and kick), but it isn't like having a game in a warm weather locale is immune from potential weather hazards.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ebick View Post
                    I think the primary reason against cold weather Super Bowls has less to do with the game and the teams and more to do with the Super Bowl weekend activities and the dignitaries who are coming to watch.
                    I think that is the number one reason!. It's not the "Game", it's everything else that goes with it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ebick View Post
                      I think the primary reason against cold weather Super Bowls has less to do with the game and the teams and more to do with the Super Bowl weekend activities and the dignitaries who are coming to watch.
                      Originally posted by Jet-Blue View Post
                      I think that is the number one reason!. It's not the "Game", it's everything else that goes with it.
                      Couldnt agree more with both of you. The NFL is a big business now and with all of the media hype etc., the NFL wanted to make it as comfortable and "ideal" for all of the big boys, media and halftime shows.


                      Football is meant to be played in the elements, domes are not for the benefit of the players or coaches.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ebick View Post
                        I think the primary reason against cold weather Super Bowls has less to do with the game and the teams and more to do with the Super Bowl weekend activities and the dignitaries who are coming to watch.
                        God forbid you'd have to wear this in 30 degree weather:


                        I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tonyt830 View Post
                          Couldnt agree more with both of you. The NFL is a big business now and with all of the media hype etc., the NFL wanted to make it as comfortable and "ideal" for all of the big boys, media and halftime shows.


                          Football is meant to be played in the elements, domes are not for the benefit of the players or coaches.

                          See I've always thought of it as football is designed to endure the elements, rather than meant to play in them. Domes were probably not built for the benefit for players or coaches, but they certainly benefit players.
                          Last edited by Ntegrase96; 02-14-2013, 10:36 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Drez View Post
                            Yeah, but all outdoor games have a good chance of having weather play a role in the game. Sure, the cold adds an extra element of difficulty (hard footballs that are harder to throw, catch, and kick), but it isn't like having a game in a warm weather locale is immune from potential weather hazards.
                            Oh absolutely. Every outdoor stadium is subject to undesirable weather. That's why I prefer places like Reliant with a retractable roof. You have the option of closing the roof if it looks like inclement weather, but you also still have a grass field. Same with the Cardinals stadium in the desert.

                            Don't get me wrong. I only prefer this for the Superbowl. All other games, anything goes.

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                            • #15
                              In 07, Favre and the Packers were supposed to have an advantage over Eli and the Giants in the NFCCG by being more used to the brutally cold weather of Lambeau Field, yet it was Favre who looked like he was dying in the cold, while Eli wasn't affected by it at all!
                              None of these "issues" are even real anyway, they're manufactured by the media.
                              I haven't heard one Coach or player express concern over an open air SB.
                              "I'M ALL FOR IT!"

                              John McKay, HC of the 1976 winless TB Buccaneers, when asked by a reporter, how McKay felt, about the execution of his offense.

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