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  • #16
    I was a Vikes fan as a kid and hated the Cowboys for beatign them in a few playoff games with long and of game passes. Killed me.
    Then I became a Giants fan and that just carrried over. JJ is jerk off so that just adds fuel to the fire.
    "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
    You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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    • #17
      How do most Cowboys fans view Jerry?

      Is he liked, hated?
      Stop Booing Tiki Barber.

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      • #18
        Its no secret i dont like jerry

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        • #19
          Originally posted by NYGisBallin View Post
          How do most Cowboys fans view Jerry?

          Is he liked, hated?
          Strongly disliked to hated by most I would say. However, many of us do appreciate that he is not a cheap owner and desperately wants to win. He has a history of being loyal to his players to a fault. The players, overall, love the guy. Unfortunately, he has made many GM blunders over the years and just won't shut up. He has been a great asset to the NFL over the years and helped to bring in quite a bit of money to the league (very involved in getting Murdoch/Fox network in the bidding). I'll always appreciate his role in the 3 SBs but also hate some of the horrific personnel moves (Galloway and Roy Williams trades). I truly wish he would just shut up most of the time.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SweetZombieJesus View Post
            Considering Landry was a Giant, they conduct themselves completely opposite to the way the Giants do. Braggadocios, flashy, boastful, all sizzle no steak. Showboating. Cheerleaders. Theatrics. Carnival atmosphere. Granted it is worse in the Jerry Jones era but it was that way even in Landry's days. They stand for the opposite of everything Wellington Mara did. I am tempted to believe Landry kept his focus on coaching the team and the owners (Schram?) did their own thing.

            Landry hated all of that. He thought the cheerleaders where "unwholesome", thought calling Dallas "America's Team" as arrogant and brought the hate of other people unnecessarily. Landry was an old fashioned football coach, and a deeply religious man. Landry didn't conduct himself anyway near how Jones conducts himself. He believed in his systems, and the only time I remember him being really using his celebrity was during one of Billy Graham's rallies which he only did because of his Christian convictions. He was in a few commercials too don't get me wrong, but Landry was never accused of being all hat and no cattle.

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            • #21
              Personally I've always hated the Eagles still do. I know some fellow old timers who hate the Redskins more which goes back to them taking Sam Huff from us, but I've never had a real "hatred" for the Skins.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                I think I hated Emmitt Smith the most. Early 90s got me to really hate the Cowboys.
                how the hell do "hate" Emmit Smith??

                One of the classier players of his time and still. I have never hated a player because of his talent level vs the Giants.
                "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
                  I think the problem is because football is so prevalent in the area.

                  You'd think everyone would learn a thing or two about football growing up around the whole 'Friday Night Lights' culture.

                  Yeah, they love football, but they don't understand it. And it's usually going to be the people that only have a surface level understanding that boast and have the loudest opinions.

                  Overall, I think there are far more casual fans in the area than there are anywhere else because it's the "cool thing to do"/norm to like football at any level here.
                  Exactly

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                    how the hell do "hate" Emmit Smith??

                    One of the classier players of his time and still. I have never hated a player because of his talent level vs the Giants.
                    I dont know. I guess because he absolutely destroyed the Giants all the time when I was younger. I always thought Troy Aikman was overrated.
                    The Problem is the Oline, PERIOD

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                      I dont know. I guess because he absolutely destroyed the Giants all the time when I was younger. I always thought Troy Aikman was overrated.
                      You always thought wrong. Aikman was a great QB

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                        You always thought wrong. Aikman was a great QB
                        Take away Michael Irving and one of the best offensive lines ever and he is above average, not great

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                          You always thought wrong. Aikman was a great QB
                          12 seasons:

                          61.5% - 32,942 yards (2,745 yards per season) - 165TDs (13.75 per season) - 141 INTs (11.75 per season) - 81.6 PR
                          Great, I think not. Irvin and Emmitt and that OL helped his career a ton.

                          These numbers are a smaller but same ratio as Eli. Smaller because of the pass happy NFL in todays game, but same ratio none the less and about the same PR. So since Troy was a HOF and "Great" QB, I guess Eli is too.
                          Last edited by TheAnalyst; 11-08-2013, 05:02 PM.
                          The Problem is the Oline, PERIOD

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                            12 seasons:

                            61.5% - 32,942 yards (2,745 yards per season) - 165TDs (13.75 per season) - 141 INTs (11.75 per season) - 81.6 PR
                            Great, I think not. Irvin and Emmitt and that OL helped his career a ton.

                            .
                            Most non-cowboys fans have the same opinion of Aikman.

                            The overall numbers don't look great, and that's sometimes what people focus on. But most don't remember that Aikman would pass the Cowboys to a lead, and then let Emmitt and that offensive line close out the game. So he would pass well in the first half, and then swallow his ego and manage the game in the 2nd half because it was a winning formula.

                            A good comparison. Compare the first two quarters of all games of 1993 Aikman and the passing leaders from last year:

                            1993 Aikman: 286 att, 204 comp, 71.3%comp, 2,400yds, 8.4 ypa, 16tds, 5ints

                            2012 Brady: 365att, 230 comp, 63.0%comp, 2,849yds, 7.8ypa, 22tds, 5ints
                            2012 Brees: 331 att, 225 comp, 67.0%comp, 2,706yds, 8.1ypa, 24tds, 7ints
                            2012 Peyton: 339 att, 237 comp, 69.9%comp, 2,634yds, 7.8 ypa, 17tds, 9ints
                            2012 Rodgers: 318 att, 217comp, 68.2%comp, 2,418yds, 7.6ypa, 22tds, 4ints
                            2012 Romo: 292 att, 186 comp, 63.7%comp, 2,075yds, 7.1 ypa, 8tds, 12ints

                            He fits in pretty well as far as first half production goes. I'd probably place his overall performance among that of Rodgers and Peyton's.

                            Similar yardage totals with Rodgers, but without the TD-INT ratio.
                            Better TD-INT ratio than Peyton, but without the yardage totals.

                            Better YPA than those guys... really better YPA than everyone.
                            Last edited by Ntegrase96; 11-08-2013, 05:52 PM.

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                            • #29
                              For the record, I don't think Aikman was a top 5 QB or anything. In fact, I could probably think of 10-15 who I'd consider better.

                              Montana
                              Brady
                              Peyton
                              Unitas
                              Marino
                              Elway
                              Staubach
                              Favre
                              Brees
                              Graham
                              Baugh

                              For sure off the top of my head. I just think the guy doesn't get enough credit.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by WayBackFan View Post
                                The Tom Landry years. It was ugly.

                                'Nuff said.

                                I never hated them then even though they consistently and continually kicked the crap out of the Jints regularly. I only disliked the Jerry/Jimmy Cowboys because I thought they were classless ******bags.

                                But I don't hate the Cowboys today nor do I hate their fans. And I like Romo.

                                I found this interesting: http://nypost.com/2013/10/31/why-tom...-a-giants-fan/

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