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    You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.


    Victor Cruz Was Second In Yac For People With 50+ Catches... Only behind Julio Jones

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    Re: How do you stop this?

    [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]

    sack fumble. enter jpp

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    • #3
      Re: How do you stop this?



      [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]</P>


      Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>
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      • #4
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        [quote user="BigBlue wins"][quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]

        sack fumble. enter jpp
        [/quote]</P>


        Lol yup or Osi, or Tuck or Kiwi or Canty[]</P>
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        • #5
          Re: How do you stop this?

          [quote user="repeatchamps"]

          [quote user="BigBlue wins"][quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]

          sack fumble. enter jpp
          [/quote]</p>


          Lol yup or Osi, or Tuck or Kiwi or Canty[]</p>[/quote]

          Actually, the sack fumble is Osi's trademark. He hits the QB just right for the fumble.

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          • #6
            Re: How do you stop this?

            [quote user="repeatchamps"]

            [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]</P>


            Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>[/quote]

            Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants

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            • #7
              Re: How do you stop this?

              [quote user="Gonzo88"][quote user="repeatchamps"]


              [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]</P>


              Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


              [/quote] Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants[/quote]</P>


              Nhamdi couldn't contain Cruz and neither could Cromartie or Revis. Grimes is a solid CB no doubt but he just had knee surgery a few weeks back. I don't think it is even remotely possible that he is 100%. I'll take my chances with Cruz in that match-up every day of the week and twice on Sunday.</P>
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              • #8
                Re: How do you stop this?

                [quote user="Gonzo88"][quote user="repeatchamps"]


                [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]</P>


                Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


                [/quote] Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants[/quote]</P>


                No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</P>
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                • #9
                  Re: How do you stop this?

                  so basically what this Falcon fan is telling us is that if we make a TINY assumption that an NFL player will not get hurt during a season, and plays a full game, every game...that the player is good.

                  Fantastic.

                  If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

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                  • #10
                    Re: How do you stop this?

                    [quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="Gonzo88"][quote user="repeatchamps"]


                    [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]</P>


                    Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


                    [/quote] Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants[/quote]</P>


                    Nhamdi couldn't contain Cruz and neither could Cromartie or Revis. Grimes is a solid CB no doubt but he just had knee surgery a few weeks back. I don't think it is even remotely possible that he is 100%. I'll take my chances with Cruz in that match-up every day of the week and twice on Sunday.</P>[/quote]

                    Good points, but Nhamdi isnt who he was in Oakland, multiple WR blew him up this year.

                    and the jets? we both know how terrible there locker room is and that was brought onto the field. I will give Cruz credit he has had a great year.

                    With Grimes, its not gonna be about how well he runs with cruz because he will have help over the top, its going to be how he baits Eli into an interception.

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                    • #11
                      Re: How do you stop this?

                      Well if you take Eli's Jersey number, and multiply it by 10, you get 100. Minus the number of drops, and times that by 4.6, then minus it by 16 for the amount of games in a season, + the fact that the Giants play in New Jersey which was the 3rd state to enter the union, you have to times that number (3) by the amount of hotdog guys in the stadium, and take that number and subtract 5, you start seeing Eli could have had a much better season. And if you take that number and times it by the amount of TD's he threw, and add the amount of dropped TD's then divide that number by Tom C's age, plus 21 because thats the drinking age in this country, you see Eli should be the MVP with 12,09303 Yards, 93 TD's, and -7 Int.

                      You can make up all the fake stats you want to sir, see you on sunday.

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                      • #12
                        Re: How do you stop this?

                        [quote user="Gonzo88"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="Gonzo88"][quote user="repeatchamps"]


                        [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]</P>


                        Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


                        [/quote] Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants[/quote]</P>


                        Nhamdi couldn't contain Cruz and neither could Cromartie or Revis. Grimes is a solid CB no doubt but he just had knee surgery a few weeks back. I don't think it is even remotely possible that he is 100%. I'll take my chances with Cruz in that match-up every day of the week and twice on Sunday.</P>


                        [/quote] Good points, but Nhamdi isnt who he was in Oakland, multiple WR blew him up this year. and the jets? we both know how terrible there locker room is and that was brought onto the field. I will give Cruz credit he has had a great year. With Grimes, its not gonna be about how well he runs with cruz because he will have help over the top, its going to be how he baits Eli into an interception.[/quote]</P>


                        That I agree with. Over the top help is really not going to make much difference anyway as Cruz has beaten that all season longanyway. It is on Eli to be as sharp and crisp as he has been for most of the season. Not fall for the baiting he will most definitely encounter and throwing the ball only where his WR can catch it no matter the coverage.</P>
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                        • #13
                          Re: How do you stop this?

                          I'm not trying to knock you here, but extrapolating stats to reflect a years worth of production is a ludicrous way to make a point when dealing with a game like football, in a league as competitive as the NFL.

                          That's just my two cents of course.

                          Didn't Atlanta give up 13 sacks in 4 games at the begining of the season? If indeed they did, then it would be just as unfair to say that Atlanta is a 52 sacks allowed/year team.
                          I bELIeve in February 4, 2018.

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                          • #14
                            Re: How do you stop this?

                            [quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="Gonzo88"][quote user="repeatchamps"]


                            [quote user="Gonzo88"]You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.[/quote]</P>


                            Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


                            [/quote] Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants[/quote]</P>


                            No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</P>[/quote]

                            Very good point, but if you double Jones then White will be 1 on 1 and gonzo shouldn't have any problem with Boley. He stopped witten last week but Romo couldnt stay on his feet and had a f'd up hand.

                            Clearly we will have max protection on Ryan giving him some more time to pick apart a zone defence

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                            • #15
                              Re: How do you stop this?

                              I am way more worried about shutting down Turner. Matt Ryan's playoff record speaks for itself. We shut down Turner and our pass rush will take care of the rest.

                              There is no question our offense will put up points. It all comes down to our dline showing up

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