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  • #31
    Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

    [quote user="DragonSoul"][quote user="jmike"][quote user="giantyankee1976"]this is a topic for which I could make some statements and come off a little like Clinton did...
    so here goes.

    I apologize to the women who read what follows:

    Sometimes I look at what some of you ladies wear in public and I think, "she HAS to know that she's going to get attention for wearing that."

    Attention as in good or bad.

    Today's a good example, a very nice young lady with an "onion" was on the elevator with myself and some other wolves, er, guys. Her blouse had a rather flattering V cut and her pants seemed like she was dipped into a vat of denim.

    She thought I was cute because she smiled and spoke a few words to me, and wiggled her walk/strutted right in front of me as we walked outdoors.

    Now if i was an ugly dude, like your average eagles fan, she might have been offended and embarrassed by the obvious attention she received because of what she was wearing.

    the moral:

    The Dime Piece Double Standard rears its head

    [quote user="Giantz4Life"]

    [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcf--HGqPzw&feature=player_embedded[/link]
    [/quote]



    i said damn.


    [/quote]

    IDK about anyone else, but I know sometimes I will attract attention depending on what I wear. Sometimes by design, sometimes not. Either way, doesn't bother me and the person's appearance does not change that. But it should not invite rude, inappropriate comments or suggestions. It also should not invite someone grabbing at me.

    My attire should not cause somebody to completely lose the ability to control themselves. I think guys should have the capability to refrain from doing anything but looking.
    [/quote]I think (can be wrong) most woman dress sexy/revealing/provocative to get looks, or see the guys break their necks trying to extend the view, while a few might just do it because they work hard on their body and want to show it off/enjoy it but again its still showing off.

    You cannot tell which is which, but if you dont expect to get a comment you are naive. Yet everyone should be able to control their own urges or needs without having a turrets outburst.

    Its Naive for woman who dress sexy not to think there might be a comment or action coming (which i dont approve or condone).

    Otherwise why dont all woman just where grandma undies without any thongs showing, or a 1 piece bathing suit? Its not for their girlfriends.

    I think its a huge double standard. Its like Look at me (if i find you appealing) but dont look (if i dont). I agree 100% that men need to control themselves and its not an excuse, but its not a perfect world, and in turn it should be expected as a worse case scenario, since its not a perfect world.

    Its like me going into a dark alley at night where there are drug dealers. I should be aware that I can be in danger if I decide to go their especially at that time, yet hope for the best, but if not be aware and ready to deal with it if need be. Again should i be harassed, mugged, or worse? Of course not but its not a perfect world/scenario.

    Not sure if what I am saying is coming out right, but I gave it a try. I guess woman should expect the issues, because its not a perfect world, yet its not an excuse for men or anyone to let loose. Its just an excuse for them, but many cannot control themselves, and should also be held responsible for it without any question, if they do something that breaks the law or affects the said person in a negative way.

    I agree with you that neither men nor woman need to be in the locker room right after the game, maybe 30 or 60 minutes when everyone is decent is a different story.[/quote]

    A woman walkinig into a locker room to do he job should not be expecting to be harassed. The players know that the locker room is a place of business (as strange a place as that may be for it) and should behave accordingly. Reporters in the locker room is not a new thing. You can argue all day about whether reporters belong in there (I don't think they do), but the players do know they should behave themselves.

    Don't think for a second that the people who hire these very attractive women to do these jobs don't expect them to dress in a way that shows how attractive they are, that is naive.

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    • #32
      Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

      [quote user="jmike"][quote user="DragonSoul"][quote user="jmike"][quote user="giantyankee1976"]this is a topic for which I could make some statements and come off a little like Clinton did...
      so here goes.

      I apologize to the women who read what follows:

      Sometimes I look at what some of you ladies wear in public and I think, "she HAS to know that she's going to get attention for wearing that."

      Attention as in good or bad.

      Today's a good example, a very nice young lady with an "onion" was on the elevator with myself and some other wolves, er, guys. Her blouse had a rather flattering V cut and her pants seemed like she was dipped into a vat of denim.

      She thought I was cute because she smiled and spoke a few words to me, and wiggled her walk/strutted right in front of me as we walked outdoors.

      Now if i was an ugly dude, like your average eagles fan, she might have been offended and embarrassed by the obvious attention she received because of what she was wearing.

      the moral:

      The Dime Piece Double Standard rears its head

      [quote user="Giantz4Life"]

      [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcf--HGqPzw&feature=player_embedded[/link]
      [/quote]



      i said damn.


      [/quote]

      IDK about anyone else, but I know sometimes I will attract attention depending on what I wear. Sometimes by design, sometimes not. Either way, doesn't bother me and the person's appearance does not change that. But it should not invite rude, inappropriate comments or suggestions. It also should not invite someone grabbing at me.

      My attire should not cause somebody to completely lose the ability to control themselves. I think guys should have the capability to refrain from doing anything but looking.
      [/quote]I think (can be wrong) most woman dress sexy/revealing/provocative to get looks, or see the guys break their necks trying to extend the view, while a few might just do it because they work hard on their body and want to show it off/enjoy it but again its still showing off.

      You cannot tell which is which, but if you dont expect to get a comment you are naive. Yet everyone should be able to control their own urges or needs without having a turrets outburst.

      Its Naive for woman who dress sexy not to think there might be a comment or action coming (which i dont approve or condone).

      Otherwise why dont all woman just where grandma undies without any thongs showing, or a 1 piece bathing suit? Its not for their girlfriends.

      I think its a huge double standard. Its like Look at me (if i find you appealing) but dont look (if i dont). I agree 100% that men need to control themselves and its not an excuse, but its not a perfect world, and in turn it should be expected as a worse case scenario, since its not a perfect world.

      Its like me going into a dark alley at night where there are drug dealers. I should be aware that I can be in danger if I decide to go their especially at that time, yet hope for the best, but if not be aware and ready to deal with it if need be. Again should i be harassed, mugged, or worse? Of course not but its not a perfect world/scenario.

      Not sure if what I am saying is coming out right, but I gave it a try. I guess woman should expect the issues, because its not a perfect world, yet its not an excuse for men or anyone to let loose. Its just an excuse for them, but many cannot control themselves, and should also be held responsible for it without any question, if they do something that breaks the law or affects the said person in a negative way.

      I agree with you that neither men nor woman need to be in the locker room right after the game, maybe 30 or 60 minutes when everyone is decent is a different story.[/quote]

      A woman walkinig into a locker room to do he job should not be expecting to be harassed. The players know that the locker room is a place of business (as strange a place as that may be for it) and should behave accordingly. Reporters in the locker room is not a new thing. You can argue all day about whether reporters belong in there (I don't think they do), but the players do know they should behave themselves.

      Don't think for a second that the people who hire these very attractive women to do these jobs don't expect them to dress in a way that shows how attractive they are, that is naive.
      [/quote]I agree 100% they need self control, but then in a perfect world it wouldn't be an issue. While I do agree women get hired for their looks at times, there is always a way to look professional without being all out there.

      Personally from the image I saw at least from the Back she looked fine, tight jeans, looked good on her, but again there wasnt anything that the players shouldnt have been able to refrain from.
      Peace,
      DragonSoul



      Twitter Account! https://twitter.com/DragonSoul

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      • #33
        Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

        [quote user="DragonSoul"][quote user="jmike"][quote user="DragonSoul"][quote user="jmike"][quote user="giantyankee1976"]this is a topic for which I could make some statements and come off a little like Clinton did...
        so here goes.

        I apologize to the women who read what follows:

        Sometimes I look at what some of you ladies wear in public and I think, "she HAS to know that she's going to get attention for wearing that."

        Attention as in good or bad.

        Today's a good example, a very nice young lady with an "onion" was on the elevator with myself and some other wolves, er, guys. Her blouse had a rather flattering V cut and her pants seemed like she was dipped into a vat of denim.

        She thought I was cute because she smiled and spoke a few words to me, and wiggled her walk/strutted right in front of me as we walked outdoors.

        Now if i was an ugly dude, like your average eagles fan, she might have been offended and embarrassed by the obvious attention she received because of what she was wearing.

        the moral:

        The Dime Piece Double Standard rears its head

        [quote user="Giantz4Life"]

        [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcf--HGqPzw&feature=player_embedded[/link]
        [/quote]



        i said damn.


        [/quote]

        IDK about anyone else, but I know sometimes I will attract attention depending on what I wear. Sometimes by design, sometimes not. Either way, doesn't bother me and the person's appearance does not change that. But it should not invite rude, inappropriate comments or suggestions. It also should not invite someone grabbing at me.

        My attire should not cause somebody to completely lose the ability to control themselves. I think guys should have the capability to refrain from doing anything but looking.
        [/quote]I think (can be wrong) most woman dress sexy/revealing/provocative to get looks, or see the guys break their necks trying to extend the view, while a few might just do it because they work hard on their body and want to show it off/enjoy it but again its still showing off.

        You cannot tell which is which, but if you dont expect to get a comment you are naive. Yet everyone should be able to control their own urges or needs without having a turrets outburst.

        Its Naive for woman who dress sexy not to think there might be a comment or action coming (which i dont approve or condone).

        Otherwise why dont all woman just where grandma undies without any thongs showing, or a 1 piece bathing suit? Its not for their girlfriends.

        I think its a huge double standard. Its like Look at me (if i find you appealing) but dont look (if i dont). I agree 100% that men need to control themselves and its not an excuse, but its not a perfect world, and in turn it should be expected as a worse case scenario, since its not a perfect world.

        Its like me going into a dark alley at night where there are drug dealers. I should be aware that I can be in danger if I decide to go their especially at that time, yet hope for the best, but if not be aware and ready to deal with it if need be. Again should i be harassed, mugged, or worse? Of course not but its not a perfect world/scenario.

        Not sure if what I am saying is coming out right, but I gave it a try. I guess woman should expect the issues, because its not a perfect world, yet its not an excuse for men or anyone to let loose. Its just an excuse for them, but many cannot control themselves, and should also be held responsible for it without any question, if they do something that breaks the law or affects the said person in a negative way.

        I agree with you that neither men nor woman need to be in the locker room right after the game, maybe 30 or 60 minutes when everyone is decent is a different story.[/quote]

        A woman walkinig into a locker room to do he job should not be expecting to be harassed. The players know that the locker room is a place of business (as strange a place as that may be for it) and should behave accordingly. Reporters in the locker room is not a new thing. You can argue all day about whether reporters belong in there (I don't think they do), but the players do know they should behave themselves.

        Don't think for a second that the people who hire these very attractive women to do these jobs don't expect them to dress in a way that shows how attractive they are, that is naive.
        [/quote]I agree 100% they need self control, but then in a perfect world it wouldn't be an issue. While I do agree women get hired for their looks at times, there is always a way to look professional without being all out there.

        Personally from the image I saw at least from the Back she looked fine, tight jeans, looked good on her, but again there wasnt anything that the players should have been able to refrain from.
        [/quote]

        Exactly. If she was interviewing them while they were outside "off the clock" so to speak, different story. There are some reporters who would approach them when they are at a club, rules are different there. One web reporter couple of years ago followed some players into a strip club and tried an interview there. They blew her off, but she definitely put herself into a position to be harassed.

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        • #34
          Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

          That was a 'woman' as in only the female of our (and I use the term most loosely) species BUT she is an ignorant bubbleheaded fool that has done a dis-service to all professional women--- dress in such a manner at the club, library or supermarket--- please--- woman are not offended by this BIMBO--- stupid girls are

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          • #35
            Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

            [quote user="GAMEPLAN"]That was a 'woman' as in only the female of our (and I use the term most loosely) species BUT she is an ignorant bubbleheaded fool that has done a dis-service to all professional women--- dress in such a manner at the club, library or supermarket--- please--- woman are not offended by this BIMBO--- stupid girls are[/quote]

            I'm sorry, in English please. Who is offended by the reporter exactly? She didn't do anything offensive. She walked into a locker room to do an interview (her job), felt unwelcome, so she left. Other people are making a big deal out of this, not her.

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            • #36
              Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

              [quote user="jmike"][quote user="GAMEPLAN"]That was a 'woman' as in only the female of our (and I use the term most loosely) species BUT she is an ignorant bubbleheaded fool that has done a dis-service to all professional women--- dress in such a manner at the club, library or supermarket--- please--- woman are not offended by this BIMBO--- stupid girls are[/quote]

              I'm sorry, in English please. Who is offended by the reporter exactly? She didn't do anything offensive. She walked into a locker room to do an interview (her job), felt unwelcome, so she left. Other people are making a big deal out of this, not her.
              [/quote]

              I was under the impression that she left after she got what she needed, not because she didn't feel welcomed. She was a bit embarrassed, which means that a few guys were acting a bit inappropriately, but as some of the male posters have already stated, that's to be expected. If you're wearing something that's going to attract attention, you're not asking for harassment (which didn't happen), but you're definitely setting yourself to get some flattering and/or unflattering attention. However in a professional setting it shouldn't be this way... unless something goes down like in giantyankee's story.


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              • #37
                Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

                WOMEN are offended by females who get all their Affirmations from men by showing bra --- men respect women that show their mind not their breasts --- she is cheap--

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                • #38
                  Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

                  [quote user="Giantz4Life"]This chick is a joke though. She's a former pageant queen who decided to become a sports reporter all of the sudden. She even measures the biceps of the players she's interviewing sometimes. Also, she forgot to mention that she had to use a pair of pliers to zip up her apple bottom jeans so that *** could fit in. Any straight male is going to be gawking at that booty, which she is famous for prior to this incident. '
                  T.O. wouldn't talk to the media, but he sure will talk to her (from 07 or 08):

                  [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcf--HGqPzw&feature=player_embedded[/link]
                  [/quote]hmm apple bottoms.


                  all reporters should have to wait for the players after they leave the locker room. male or female

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                  • #39
                    Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

                    [quote user="jmike"][quote user="GAMEPLAN"]That was a 'woman' as in only the female of our (and I use the term most loosely) species BUT she is an ignorant bubbleheaded fool that has done a dis-service to all professional women--- dress in such a manner at the club, library or supermarket--- please--- woman are not offended by this BIMBO--- stupid girls are[/quote]

                    I'm sorry, in English please.* Who is offended by the reporter exactly?* She didn't do anything offensive.* She walked into a locker room to do an interview (her job), felt unwelcome, so she left.* Other people are making a big deal out of this, not her.
                    [/quote]

                    You have to wonder - if you look at past pics of her, she obviously has a habit of dressing like this. Has she every felt uncomfortable interviewing athletes in the past? I would be hard pressed to think that she had never been leered at in the past dressed like that. She obviously never voiced any public complaint about her discomfort via her Twitter in the past. Why now?

                    And how come this all came out and made the cover of the Post the same day as the Jets opening game? Didn't this happen back in camp/pre-season??

                    And I also find it odd that a woman's group just happen to see her tweeting about her discomfort and took it upon themselves to fight for her rights by contacting the Jets organization of their own accord without even contacting her first to confirm the facts of her tweet before making accusations. I mean....she's a NOBODY JOURNALIST - why would a woman's group - or any group for that matter - take this matter in to their hands for some wananbe reporter/journalist just because she tweeted about her 'discomfort'. Maybe if it were a female celebrity or politician I could see a woman's group getting exposure for this, but for an unheard of before Mexican journalist - sorry, I just don't buy this entire story.

                    She wants her 15 minutes of fame, hits to her webiste and followers on Twitter - well she's got 'em now!

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                    • #40
                      Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter



                      [quote user="Jack Robinson"][quote user="shockeyg"]Did you see that *** ? WOW she walks into my work she gets a few catcalls also.[/quote] I still think the way she came dressed was a joke and don't respect her attempts to play off her "shirt and jeans" as ordinary articles of clothing. There's a big difference between jeans that show every curve of your a'ss and jeans that don't call attention to you, so yes, it's a premeditated act no matter what she says. That said, this is all on the Association of Women in Sports Media.[/quote]</P>


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                      </P>


                      That association is probably a bunch of fatugly broads.</P>

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                      • #41
                        Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

                        [quote user="CTLadyBlue"][quote user="jmike"][quote user="GAMEPLAN"]That was a 'woman' as in only the female of our (and I use the term most loosely) species BUT she is an ignorant bubbleheaded fool that has done a dis-service to all professional women--- dress in such a manner at the club, library or supermarket--- please--- woman are not offended by this BIMBO--- stupid girls are[/quote]

                        I'm sorry, in English please.* Who is offended by the reporter exactly?* She didn't do anything offensive.* She walked into a locker room to do an interview (her job), felt unwelcome, so she left.* Other people are making a big deal out of this, not her.
                        [/quote]

                        You have to wonder - if you look at past pics of her, she obviously has a habit of dressing like this. Has she every felt uncomfortable interviewing athletes in the past? I would be hard pressed to think that she had never been leered at in the past dressed like that. She obviously never voiced any public complaint about her discomfort via her Twitter in the past. Why now?

                        And how come this all came out and made the cover of the Post the same day as the Jets opening game? Didn't this happen back in camp/pre-season??

                        And I also find it odd that a woman's group just happen to see her tweeting about her discomfort and took it upon themselves to fight for her rights by contacting the Jets organization of their own accord without even contacting her first to confirm the facts of her tweet before making accusations. I mean....she's a NOBODY JOURNALIST - why would a woman's group - or any group for that matter - take this matter in to their hands for some wananbe reporter/journalist just because she tweeted about her 'discomfort'. Maybe if it were a female celebrity or politician I could see a woman's group getting exposure for this, but for an unheard of before Mexican journalist - sorry, I just don't buy this entire story.

                        She wants her 15 minutes of fame, hits to her webiste and followers on Twitter - well she's got 'em now![/quote] Not much of a surprise these days when woman make a sex video so they can become a pseudo celebrity like Hilton, Kardashians, and so forth, and the worse part it works. Lets not forget about the idiots of the so called Jersey Shore or even the house wives of pick your state. Then you have actual people who hold some weight even mentioning these idiots... Its very sad.
                        Peace,
                        DragonSoul



                        Twitter Account! https://twitter.com/DragonSoul

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                        • #42
                          Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter

                          [quote user="Jiffy Jeff"]


                          [quote user="Jack Robinson"][quote user="shockeyg"]Did you see that *** ? WOW she walks into my work she gets a few catcalls also.[/quote] I still think the way she came dressed was a joke and don't respect her attempts to play off her "shirt and jeans" as ordinary articles of clothing. There's a big difference between jeans that show every curve of your a'ss and jeans that don't call attention to you, so yes, it's a premeditated act no matter what she says. That said, this is all on the Association of Women in Sports Media.[/quote]</P>


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                          That association is probably a bunch of fatugly broads.</P>


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                          • #43
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                            [quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="shockeyg"]Did you see that *** ? WOW she walks into my work she gets a few catcalls also.[/quote]exactly, don't go blaming the dog when you put the bone right in front of him..[/quote]</P>


                            i dont think she had a bone in those jeans......</P>

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                            • #44
                              Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter



                              [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Giantz4Life"]This chick is a joke though. She's a former pageant queen who decided to become a sports reporter all of the sudden. She even measures the biceps of the players she's interviewing sometimes. Also, she forgot to mention that she had to use a pair of pliers to zip up her apple bottom jeans so that *** could fit in. Any straight male is going to be gawking at that booty, which she is famous for prior to this incident. '
                              T.O. wouldn't talk to the media, but he sure will talk to her (from 07 or 08):

                              [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcf--HGqPzw&amp;feature=player_embedded[/link]
                              [/quote]hmm apple bottoms.


                              all reporters should have to wait for the players after they leave the locker room. male or female
                              [/quote]</P>


                              agreed, not even taking the sexist topic into account. the locker room is their pre and post game sanctuary; no outsiders should be allowed unless it is something inspirational like when our gmen had the guy from the army (greg something, i think,) come in and give a pep talk in 2007.</P>

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                              • #45
                                Re: Retracting my Opinion on the Female Sports Reporter



                                [quote user="joeybagadonutz23"]Women don't belong in men's locker rooms.

                                Can I get a job that allows me to head into Anna Kornikova's locker room after the game? I freakin doubt it.

                                But that being said...no media belongs in any professional sports locker room....period. Way too much access is given to the players these days in hopes of capturing another Ryan Leaf breakdown for the entertainment of bored Americans everywhere. Ridiculous.
                                [/quote]</P>


                                Yeah now thats a career change a womans tennis writer. Can I say there messing with equality rights if they dont let me do locker room interviews</P>

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