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  • Originally posted by Aufidius View Post

    People on here don't seem as upset about Dante Stallworth as they do with Mike Vick and Dante Stallworth killed a human being.
    Here's the rub. Vick continually lied and committed his acts over years. Stallworth made a horrific and tragic error. One shows a consistent pattern of illegal and sociopathic behavior, the other an incredibly tragic and dumb case of poor judgment. Stallworth also immediately called the police after the accident. Showing actual remorse goes a long way. There's also the fact that the man he hit was a bigger cause of the accident than Stallworth's intoxication. It was actually stated that even if Stallworth had been sober at the time that it was unlikely he would have been able to avoid striking Mr. Reyes. The plea bargain that Stallworth came to was in agreement with the family of the deceased. Stallworth also took the plea instead of fighting the charges, which his lawyers were pretty certain he could have beaten, because he thought it was the right thing to do.

    I'm in no ways forgiving Stallworth from driving under the influence, however, one case was an accident and the other was premeditated over years.

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    • Originally posted by Drez View Post
      Here's the rub. Vick continually lied and committed his acts over years. Stallworth made a horrific and tragic error. One shows a consistent pattern of illegal and sociopathic behavior, the other an incredibly tragic and dumb case of poor judgment. Stallworth also immediately called the police after the accident. Showing actual remorse goes a long way. There's also the fact that the man he hit was a bigger cause of the accident than Stallworth's intoxication. It was actually stated that even if Stallworth had been sober at the time that it was unlikely he would have been able to avoid striking Mr. Reyes. The plea bargain that Stallworth came to was in agreement with the family of the deceased. Stallworth also took the plea instead of fighting the charges, which his lawyers were pretty certain he could have beaten, because he thought it was the right thing to do.

      I'm in no ways forgiving Stallworth from driving under the influence, however, one case was an accident and the other was premeditated over years.
      Good post. I didn't know all that about Dante Stallworth. After reading your post I look at him differently. He's still wrong for what he did but it's a lot different than the way I thought it was.

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      • Originally posted by FBomb View Post
        You were not making a comparison of situations. You were saying people don't care as much about the other situations because they aren't talking about it in a thread that has nothing to do with them. Please at least TRY and keep up.....or find a 4th grader who can explain it to you better. I cannot dumb things down any further than I have already.

        This is why we keep coming back to your lack of real intellect. You just can never really grasp things without having to dumb things down for you. You just lash out with dumb and idiotic personal insults that have no bearing on the conversation or reality. You don't have a clue about much of anything but least of all what my personal life is like. All of these things lead back to you continually showing everyone here how stupid you are.

        You commenting on other posters lack of creativity and "clueness" is the height of hypocrisy! You're and idiot and you don't have any idea that you are.




        Originally posted by Drez View Post
        Well, when that **** head becomes an NFL QB, we'll concern ourselves with him.

        Also, as mentioned, cultural relativism comes into play when discussing certain topics, like cuisine. However, there are some things where it's just used as an excuse for deplorable behavior, such as dog fighting.

        For the record, even though I eat meat, I'm against things like **** fights, too. While some may see that as dichotomous, it really isn't. If one is going to kill an animal for food (and/or other resources), then it's okay. However, to kill an animal for pure enjoyment or even worse for not "performing" up to standards is savage.


        Two excellent posts. I'm glad to see that the "majority" here "gets it"..
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        • Originally posted by FBomb View Post
          You were not making a comparison of situations. You were saying people don't care as much about the other situations because they aren't talking about it in a thread that has nothing to do with them. Please at least TRY and keep up.....or find a 4th grader who can explain it to you better. I cannot dumb things down any further than I have already.

          This is why we keep coming back to your lack of real intellect. You just can never really grasp things without having to dumb things down for you. You just lash out with dumb and idiotic personal insults that have no bearing on the conversation or reality. You don't have a clue about much of anything but least of all what my personal life is like. All of these things lead back to you continually showing everyone here how stupid you are.

          You commenting on other posters lack of creativity and "clueness" is the height of hypocrisy! You're and idiot and you don't have any idea that you are.

          You're obviously still upset you never made it as a musician. You need to come to grips with that.

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          • Originally posted by Drez View Post
            Well, when that **** head becomes an NFL QB, we'll concern ourselves with him.

            Also, as mentioned, cultural relativism comes into play when discussing certain topics, like cuisine. However, there are some things where it's just used as an excuse for deplorable behavior, such as dog fighting.

            For the record, even though I eat meat, I'm against things like **** fights, too. While some may see that as dichotomous, it really isn't. If one is going to kill an animal for food (and/or other resources), then it's okay. However, to kill an animal for pure enjoyment or even worse for not "performing" up to standards is savage.
            There's nothing wrong with eating but how do you feel about the treatment of animals in most slaughterhouses?

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            • Originally posted by Aufidius View Post
              There's nothing wrong with eating but how do you feel about the treatment of animals in most slaughterhouses?
              I believe I'm on record earlier in this thread calling them deplorable. However, deplorable for feeding millions of people is more acceptable than deplorable for the mere amusement of a handful of people.

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              • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                I believe I'm on record earlier in this thread calling them deplorable. However, deplorable for feeding millions of people is more acceptable than deplorable for the mere amusement of a handful of people.
                I can see how you come to your point but on the flip side of that is the amount of torture in regard to slaughterhouses dwarfs the amount in dog fighting. I not defending dog fighting and I think it should be cracked down upon but I also think we need much stricter supervision and regulations in what goes on in slaughterhouses.

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                • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmiH34VCJWE
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                  • Originally posted by Aufidius View Post
                    You're obviously still upset you never made it as a musician. You need to come to grips with that.

                    lol....you being an idiot has very little impact on my feelings about anything. Watching you make a fool of yourself over and over and you being oblivious to that fact is very entertaining. You WANT me to be upset by your mindless and limited banter, but you're just not smart enough. Insults only work if they have some basis in reality.....like your being staggeringly stupid. That's why you're so bothered by it.
                    I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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