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  • #16
    Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

    [quote user="Intellect"]

    Some things to keep in mind and consider with an offense like this.* Even though some may say that the offense is based on Tightends I want to remind people that Tom has and will spread the ball around.* Although that offense "features" their tightends which are two of the best in the game, he can and will spread the ball around.* There are plenty of weapons, and fire power and he never and I mean NEVER has back to back*subpar performances.** Not to mention that runninggame which was not present last Superbowl, with the underrated battering ram BenJarvus Green-Ellis who gashed Baltimore's linebackers and the elusive potential game changing Danny Woodhead who can create havoc both in the passing and running game, there is a reason that offense is in the big dance*and quiet a few more things to look out for....</P>


    - Bill Belichick will have a great offensive and defensive game plan</P>


    - Tom Brady is the best in the game and perhaps the best this game has ever seen.</P>


    - Wes Welker although may seem like he dissappears, he still makes his key grabs and is still untouchable.</P>


    - Deion Branch is sneaky, and can still get open.. have to be careful with him</P>


    - Chad Ochocinco is coming off of a family death, and has been regarded as one of the best wide receivers of his generation.* Although he has been quiet thus far, his talent and ability cannot be questioned and MUST and I mean MUST be taken seriously.* </P>


    - Rob Gronkowski is too big, too fast, too strong, too smart with great hands and is the best tightend in the NFL.* He will get his grabs bar none.</P>


    - Aaron Hernandez is fast, versatile, has great speed, very good hands and can play some X.* He can line up in the runningback position and he too will make his*plays.</P>


    - Julian Edelman is another one that although plays both sides of the ball can be very effective in both the slot and the backfield.* He can mimick Wes Welker very well and got open on a few plays during the post season thus far.* His elusiveness and YAC ability must be taken seriously as he can make you miss with the best of them.</P>


    - BenJarvus Green-Ellis runs hard, tough, patient and can wear a defense down, he is extremely underrated and never fumbles the ball.* Danny Woodhead on the other side is what I call an X-Factor because he can beat you in both the passing and running game with his quickness, elusiveness, vision*and solid hands. (Also don't discount Kevin Faulk RB/WR, and Stevan Ridley)</P>


    - And last but not least, Logan Mankins, Brian Waters and Matt Light have elevated the play of*the offensive line and will keep Tom clean as much as they can.* They are huge, very smart and work well together.* They made it very hard for guys like Von Miller and Terrell Suggs to get through to Tom...</P>


    So with all of that being said,*this*in my*opinion will be*too much for many. *</P>[/quote]Remember when someone did one of these threads showing how much Firepower the Packers had, lol
    Football has been very, very good to us.
    After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
    But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

    # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

    1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
    2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
    3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
    4-New York Giants!!!
    5-NE
    Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

    ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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    • #17
      Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

      How did that work out for em?
      They playing in SB this year?
      Football has been very, very good to us.
      After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
      But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

      # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

      1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
      2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
      3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
      4-New York Giants!!!
      5-NE
      Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

      ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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      • #18
        Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

        Just checked listing for SB next weekend and didn't see anything about all that firepower of Jennings, Nelson, driver, Finley , Crabtree, grant, Rodgers even playing in SB?
        Football has been very, very good to us.
        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
        4-New York Giants!!!
        5-NE
        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

        Comment


        • #19
          Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

          What happened to them? They were so good? How could anyone stop them
          Football has been very, very good to us.
          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
          4-New York Giants!!!
          5-NE
          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

          Comment


          • #20
            Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

            When this SB is over people will same the same about your list
            Football has been very, very good to us.
            After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
            But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

            # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

            1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
            2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
            3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
            4-New York Giants!!!
            5-NE
            Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

            ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

            Comment


            • #21
              Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

              Enough said
              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

              Comment


              • #22
                Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

                Check out the SIG for your final score.
                And one of the Pats scores comes in garbage time
                Football has been very, very good to us.
                After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                4-New York Giants!!!
                5-NE
                Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

                Comment


                • #23
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                  [quote user="miked1958"]Just checked listing for SB next weekend and didn't see anything about all that firepower of Jennings, Nelson, driver, Finley , Crabtree, grant, Rodgers even playing in SB?[/quote]</P>


                  Rob Gronkowski alone is better than any receiver they have, hell he's the best tightend in the NFL, and quiet possibly the best we've ever seen.</P>


                  Aaron Hernandez is better than any tightend they have, he is explosive, fast, can play X and he can run the ball.</P>


                  Wes Welker is overall better than Jennings, and still great in the slot. He is a top 5 best wide receiver is also better than every last one of their receivers. And he can still take a screen and run it for about 10 to 15 yards. </P>


                  Deion Branch though not mentioned with the stars, is a superbowl MVP, a very precise and detailed route runner and knows how to get open with sneaky quickess .. and he can beat you deep if you'r e not careful. He's also pretty clutch as well.</P>


                  They also don't have an elusive allpurpose pass catching threat out of the backfield like Danny Woodhead. He can be a potential game changer, remember 2010. Not to mention Kevin Faulk who though is older, is still capable of doing some of the same.</P>


                  Chad Ochocinco though quiet is not injured, is healthy as when on can outplay just about everybody with MAYBE the exception of Greg Jennings.Ifhe gets going, then he has to be doubled.</P>


                  Julian Edelman can do his best Wes Welker imitations, with even more elusiveness making 5 yard screens into 10 to 20 yard runs and can also take handoffs, reverses and things of that nature.</P>


                  BenJarvus Green-Ellis is a pound-it out hardnosed runner who's patient, with good vision and can wear a defense down never fumbling with solid hands out of the backfield and Stevan Ridley brings his dynamics as well. GreenBay has nothing like that.</P>


                  And Tom Brady is not only the best Quarterback in the league, but is the greatest quarterback of all time.</P>


                  So these guys are here in the big dance for a reason, too much versatility, too deep and can hurt you.</P>

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                  • #24
                    Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

                    [quote user="Intellect"][quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="Intellect"][quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="JJC7301"][quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="Intellect"]


                    [/quote]i'm with you but he cant catch what is not thrown.. D-LINE for the win![/quote]</P>


                    The Giants will not overlook*any receiver that Brady throws to.</P>


                    [/quote]very true.. but i'm implying Brady wont have time to throw to any wr[/quote]</P>


                    *</P>


                    I'm pretty sure New England is aware of the Giants pash rush and will come up with ways to neutralize that.* You have to remember that guys like Von Miller, Elvis Dumervil, Haloti Ngata*and Terrell Suggs were pretty much non factors during the previous post season games.* We all know about your 4 solid pash rushers but with probowlers Logan Mankins and Brian Waters anchoring that line I don't think that will be a problem.* </P>


                    [/quote]Your coach is a super genius and I'd expect nothing less of him.. Should be a great game... You got a final score you want to predict?[/quote]</P>


                    No not yet lol ... but if I had to I would say 32 Patriots 24 Giants.</P>[/quote]giants 24? We just put up 20 on SF's defence in bad weather. giving too much credit to your defence or not enough to our offence ?

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                    • #25
                      Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

                      [quote user="Intellect"]

                      [quote user="miked1958"]Just checked listing for SB next weekend and didn't see anything about all that firepower of Jennings, Nelson, driver, Finley , Crabtree, grant, Rodgers even playing in SB?[/quote]</P>


                      Rob Gronkowski alone is better than any receiver they have, hell he's the best tightend in the NFL, and quiet possibly the best we've ever seen.<[/quote]stopped reading after this sentence.. We get he is good.. But he's got a little ways to go before he is even the best New England has ever seen IMO. We'll talk when he knocks Ben Coates from that pedestal

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                      • #26
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                        Also,

                        unless it is a big fraud,his injury will preclude much of a serious threat,no matter how good Gronk may be when he is healthy.....

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                        • #27
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                          [quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="Intellect"]


                          [quote user="miked1958"]Just checked listing for SB next weekend and didn't see anything about all that firepower of Jennings, Nelson, driver, Finley , Crabtree, grant, Rodgers even playing in SB?[/quote]</P>


                          Rob Gronkowski alone is better than any receiver they have, hell he's the best tightend in the NFL, and quiet possibly the best we've ever seen.&lt;[/quote]stopped reading after this sentence.. We get he is good.. But he's got a little ways to go before he is even the best New England has ever seen IMO. We'll talk when he knocks Ben Coates from that pedestal[/quote]


                          Rob Gronkowski pound for pound is the greatest tightend New England has ever had and the best ever, no doubt. </P>

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                          • #28
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                            [quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="Intellect"]

                            [quote user="miked1958"]Just checked listing for SB next weekend and didn't see anything about all that firepower of Jennings, Nelson, driver, Finley , Crabtree, grant, Rodgers even playing in SB?[/quote]</P>


                            Rob Gronkowski alone is better than any receiver they have, hell he's the best tightend in the NFL, and quiet possibly the best we've ever seen.<[/quote]stopped reading after this sentence.. We get he is good.. But he's got a little ways to go before he is even the best New England has ever seen IMO. We'll talk when he knocks Ben Coates from that pedestal[/quote]While coates was an excellent TE, Gronk is that much better

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                            • #29
                              Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

                              [quote user="Intellect"]

                              [quote user="miked1958"]Just checked listing for SB next weekend and didn't see anything about all that firepower of Jennings, Nelson, driver, Finley , Crabtree, grant, Rodgers even playing in SB?[/quote]</P>


                              Rob Gronkowski alone is better than any receiver they have, hell he's the best tightend in the NFL, and quiet possibly the best we've ever seen.</P>


                              Aaron Hernandez is better than any tightend they have, he is explosive, fast, can play X and he can run the ball.</P>


                              Wes Welker is overall better than Jennings, and still great in the slot.* He is a top 5 best wide receiver is also better than every last one of their receivers.* And he can still take a screen and run it for about 10 to 15 yards. </P>


                              Deion Branch though not mentioned with the stars, is a superbowl MVP, a very precise and detailed route runner and knows how to get open with sneaky quickess .. and he can beat you deep if you'r e not careful.* He's also pretty clutch as well.</P>


                              They also don't have an elusive allpurpose pass catching threat out of the backfield like Danny Woodhead.* He can be a potential game changer, remember 2010.* Not to mention Kevin Faulk who though is older, is still capable of doing some of the same.</P>


                              Chad Ochocinco though quiet is not injured, is healthy as when on can outplay just about everybody with MAYBE the exception of Greg Jennings.**If*he gets going, then he has to be doubled.*</P>


                              Julian Edelman can do his best Wes Welker imitations, with even more elusiveness making 5 yard screens into 10 to 20 yard runs and can also take handoffs, reverses and things of that nature.</P>


                              BenJarvus Green-Ellis is a pound-it out hardnosed runner who's patient, with good vision and can wear a defense down never fumbling with solid hands out of the backfield and Stevan Ridley brings his dynamics as well.* GreenBay has nothing like that.</P>


                              And Tom Brady is not only the best Quarterback in the league, but is the greatest quarterback of all time.</P>


                              So these guys are here in the big dance for a reason, too much versatility, too deep and can hurt you.</P>[/quote]

                              The Patriots are good and might beat us. But lets not gas them up to much. They have a very good intermediate offense. They have no vertical passing game.

                              Tom Brady is a very good QB but he wasn't as good as Rodgers was this year. The Giants in two of their last 3 playoff games faced Michael Turner and Gore. The running game of New England wont scare us.

                              The Patriots are a worthy SB team. But this team is not the 07 Patriots or even the 2011 Packers or Saints. They're lead by a Brilliant QB and coach but the Giants matchup very well with them. Will the Giants beat them that remains to be seen...but I like the Giants chances.

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                              • #30
                                Re: New England's Offensive Firepower

                                [quote user="EliBlowsCruz"][quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="Intellect"]

                                [quote user="miked1958"]Just checked listing for SB next weekend and didn't see anything about all that firepower of Jennings, Nelson, driver, Finley , Crabtree, grant, Rodgers even playing in SB?[/quote]</P>


                                Rob Gronkowski alone is better than any receiver they have, hell he's the best tightend in the NFL, and quiet possibly the best we've ever seen.<[/quote]stopped reading after this sentence.. We get he is good.. But he's got a little ways to go before he is even the best New England has ever seen IMO. We'll talk when he knocks Ben Coates from that pedestal[/quote]While coates was an excellent TE, Gronk is that much better[/quote]When RG gets 5-6 pro bowl in a row than I'll start to agree, maybe

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