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    PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

    "Considering what we have written lately about the New York Giants
    offensive line and the Pro Football Focus Pass Blocking efficiency ratings it
    would follow logically that the Giants line would not fare well when graded as a
    whole.



    In this case, logic would prevail. In the PFF Offensive Line Rankings for 2011 the Giants placed 31st
    in the 32-team NFL. The Giants were 13th in 2010.







    Related
    - Pass Blocking Efficiency, Guards And Centers
    - Pass Blocking Efficiency, Tackles







    PFF says:




    "Yes, they won the Super Bowl, but they did so in spite of a line that
    sieved pressure throughout the year. Our lowest-ranked pass protecting line had
    problems all over, but nowhere as bad as at the tackle positions (especially
    once Will Beatty was
    lost for the year). It wasn't just the tackles however, with every member of the
    Giants' line earning a negative grade. This explains the drop-off in the run
    game and makes the season that Eli Manning had
    all the more remarkable."




    PFF ranked the Giants 24th in the league in run blocking and last in the
    league in pass blocking. For comparison's sake, Football
    Outsiders
    ranks the Giants 28th in run blocking and sixth in pass blocking.
    The pass blocking difference is likely in how 'Outsiders' views pressures, as
    well as giving Eli Manning credit for escapability in the pocket."


    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    Re: PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

    Yeah they were really bad. Incredible how much we were able to do.
    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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    • #3
      Re: PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

      If we can shore up the OLine, I'd like to see them keep Jacobs and see if he has one or two more good seasons running behind a line that can make holes. We have Hynoski at fullback who will be better blocker now that he's gotten his rookie year out of the way (he wasn't a bad blocker, just need to catch up with the speed of the game).

      Tight end is a MUST for us but will they look to the draft for immediate relief to snatch up a free agent in the short term?

      Do we keep Diehl and McKenzie? I love them both, but it wasn't a great year for either of them. Beatty, assuming his eye heals completely, and Boothe are ready for prime time so I don't see us as retooling as much as tweaking.
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #4
        Re: PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

        And what the hell happened to Snee this year. Is it somehting to do with playing with a new center?? Hope gets back to form next year.
        #80

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        • #5
          Re: PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

          This is why beefing up the O-line is our #1 priority. Not LBers, not receivers, not anything else. We can put any of our depth WR into the #3 slot if we let go of manningham; Eli will make that receiver better. But an improved O-line means that Eli has more time to throw (if he can do what he did with no time, imagine what he'd be able to do with time), and more openings up the middle means BJ will be much more effective (he can't produce all that well when he has to run at a sideline)

          I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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          • #6
            Re: PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

            31st but THEY GOT A RING

            Reese will tidy this up in the offseason...I think they give Beatty another shot and find a new second tackle (either FA or I suppose take a chance with Brewer). The only questions is whether McKenzie and DIehl are cut loose completely or come back to provide veteren competition and depth. Guard has nice depth frankly with Snee (obviously), Boothe and Petrus all capable of starting. Don't see them quitting on Baas after one year. Cordle is a decent backup.
            "Release the Kraken!"

            - Dan Dierdorf, Giants vs Dolphins, 10/30/2011

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            • #7
              Re: PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

              This particular rating tells me how utterly self-serving (for the ones doing the rating) and generally useless ratings like this are.

              1) It doesn't shed any new light on any problem of the Giants. It merely confirms what every Giants fan has already observed, and commented on this board certainly, all season long.

              2) If there WERE any relevance to the report/study, why didn't we finish the season much lower in the league (like, for instance, 31st or 32nd) in either record or at least in total offense, or both?

              Of course, there are many, MANY components to a team's success or lack of it (defense, special teams, individual performances, etc, etc) but that only serves to confirm that studies like this one are fairly irrelevant. Not irrelevant to coaches and FO, perhaps, but don't you think they have their OWN method of evaluating each unit and each player? You think they rely upon PFF, or other media-generated, studies?

              Reports like these seem more a self-promoting -- and self-validating -- tool for those who make them rather than any useful evaluation aid for fans, coaches, front office.

              Sorry, just felt like venting. We all see so many of these, and in the long run don't shed the insight most of us fans hunger for, in my opinion. One man's view.

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              • #8
                Re: PFF RATES GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE 31ST IN THE NFL

                Giants in 2011 allowed the most QB pressures in the league, at 220 (second place team had 205). This didn't translate into an inordinate number of sacks (Eli was the 20th-most-sacked NFL QB at 28 sacks), but it is a red flag. This, and the last-place running status declares major issues with the O-line. Yes, Bradshaw was out for a while, and compromised at times when he was in, but a good O-line should be able to keep a rushing attack out of the bottom 8-10 in the league.

                Gotta go O-line in one of the first two draft slots.

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