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    GIANTS' GM JERRY REESE WARMING TO OSI UMENYIORA

    "The iciness of last summer seems to have thawed.



    When the 2011 season began, a disgruntled Osi Umenyiora didn’t
    even want to be a Giant. And a resolute GM Jerry Reese was
    prepared for a standoff.




    One dramatic Super Bowl run later, both parties have warmed up to each other,
    a timely change of heart that at least leaves the door slightly ajar for
    Umenyiora to finish his career as a Giant. Six months ago, that notion seemed
    far-fetched, yet there Reese was on Saturday at the NFL Combine, saying that he
    would be open to discussing a contract extension with the 30-year-old
    pass-rushing defensive end.




    “It could happen,” Reese said. “But we have a lot of issues to look at, and
    we just have to formulate a good game plan and see if we can get it done.”




    Reese said there have been no contract discussions yet, and he hasn’t spoken
    to Umenyiora since the Giants’ parade up the Canyon of Heroes. Umenyiora will
    earn $4 million this season, the final year of his six-year $41 million deal. He
    made nine sacks last season despite missing seven games battling knee and ankle
    injuries. He added 3½ more sacks in the postseason, including a crucial strip
    sack of Aaron Rodgers in the
    upset win over the Packers in the divisional round.




    Umenyiora remains one of the league’s most underpaid elite pass-rushers, but
    his frustration over that has cooled. He began this offseason by promising to
    stay “really quiet” in a radio interview, and on Friday, during a SiriusXM NFL
    Radio interview, he quipped that “if it came down to me making less to stay
    here, I would.”




    Reese called much of the preseason circus surrounding Umenyiora “overblown a
    little bit,” and added that Umenyiora’s play was “terrific” during the Giants’
    playoff run. He said he’s had a handful of positive conversations with
    Umenyiora, too.




    “I think he loves the Giants,” Reese said. “He loves to play football. He’s
    been with us his entire career, and I think he’d like to retire a Giant.”




    It won’t be easy to make that dream a reality because the Giants are hardly
    in a prime salary-cap position. Teams won’t know their official 2012 cap figure
    until next month, but Reese admitted that the Giants are in no position to spend
    freely.




    “We have some work to do,” he said.




    And plenty of players to pay. Any Umenyiora extension must take into account
    the future of the Giants’ defensive line. Justin Tuck’s current
    deal will expire in two years. And if Umenyiora gets a monster extension, how
    will the Giants compensate phenom Jason
    Pierre-Paul
    , who is signed through 2015 but scheduled to make just $825,000
    this season?




    The Giants must also find money to re-sign 21 unrestricted free agents,
    including corner Terrell Thomas — who
    missed all of 2011 with a right ACL tear — and punter Steve
    Weatherford
    , and they must find a way to placate breakout receiver Victor
    Cruz
    , who is already clamoring for a raise after making just $490,000 in
    2011 despite being the third leading receiver in the entire league.




    Still, Reese did maintain that the Giants are prepared to at least consider
    some kind of extension for Umenyiora. And that’s a far better situation than
    anything the Giants seemed set for last summer.




    “We are open to everything right now,” said Reese. “But we don’t know what we
    can do right now.”


    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    Re: GIANTS' GM JERRY REESE WARMING TO OSI UMENYIOR***

    I hope they get it done. Osi is an up and down player, but when on his game is a major difference maker.

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      [quote user="logan9839"]I hope they get it done. Osi is an up and down player, but when on his game is a major difference maker.[/quote]
      He's a BIG difference maker -- especially in the playoffs.

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        Re: GIANTS' GM JERRY REESE WARMING TO OSI UMENYIOR***

        how do signing bonuses affect the cap? maybe they could just give him a nice bonus and extend him at a modest increase for the next few years

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          Osi is a beast!

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            [quote user="BigBlueFanNJ"]how do signing bonuses affect the cap? maybe they could just give him a nice bonus and extend him at a modest increase for the next few years[/quote]

            With regards to the cap, Signing bonuses are spread out over the duration of the contract.

            So for example is a guy signs a 5 year deal and has a $10 mil signing bonus, it counts as 2 mil per year. However, if the player is cut prior to the 5th year, the entire remaining amount counts against the cap the year he is cut.


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            • #7
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              [quote user="MikeIsaGiant"]Osi is a beast![/quote]
              So true. I can't believe people are suggesting he be cut or traded.

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                [quote user="Flip Empty"][quote user="MikeIsaGiant"]Osi is a beast![/quote] So true. I can't believe people are suggesting he be cut or traded.[/quote]




                I haven't seen anyone say he should be cut. But, if they can't get a deal done with him b/c of salary cap restraints then the only other options are to either make him play out his last year, which could cause a problem, or to trade him for as much value as you can get.




                We wont know anything until after the cap is finalized and Reese starts making moves to release and restructure guys to create cap space.




                It's a boon for the team if they're able to keep their stable of passrushers together, but teams that stay successful for long periods of time do so b/c they're able to make tough decisions like this.

                All Hail The New York Giants!!

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                • #9
                  Re: GIANTS' GM JERRY REESE WARMING TO OSI UMENYIOR***

                  So many fans just don't understand the salary cap.

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                  • #10
                    Re: GIANTS' GM JERRY REESE WARMING TO OSI UMENYIOR***

                    [quote user="Flip Empty"][quote user="MikeIsaGiant"]Osi is a beast![/quote]
                    So true. I can't believe people are suggesting he be cut or traded.[/quote]

                    Osi has been one of those people.
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #11
                      Re: GIANTS' GM JERRY REESE WARMING TO OSI UMENYIOR***

                      [quote user="NYSPORTS"]So many fans just don't understand the salary cap.[/quote]

                      It's complicated.
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        Re: GIANTS' GM JERRY REESE WARMING TO OSI UMENYIOR***

                        [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Flip Empty"][quote user="MikeIsaGiant"]Osi is a beast![/quote]
                        So true. I can't believe people are suggesting he be cut or traded.[/quote]

                        Osi has been one of those people.
                        [/quote]
                        Haha, touché. The Giants knew how important he is which is why they refused to let him have his way. It seems many fans still see him riding an exercise bike rather than strip-sacking Aaron Rodgers.

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                          [quote user="Flip Empty"][quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Flip Empty"][quote user="MikeIsaGiant"]Osi is a beast![/quote]
                          So true. I can't believe people are suggesting he be cut or traded.[/quote]

                          Osi has been one of those people.
                          [/quote]
                          Haha, touché. The Giants knew how important he is which is why they refused to let him have his way. It seems many fans still see him riding an exercise bike rather than strip-sacking Aaron Rodgers.[/quote]

                          I think Osi, like Jacobs early last year, has to understand his limitations and the role expected of them. Osi is not an every down DE, he just isn't. If he get get his mind wrapped around that I am sure he'll remain a GIANT. Jerry Reese is not going to low ball a player. he's going to offer an honest reflection of a player's talents and then let the chips fall where they may.

                          The object this season is to maintain as much of the roster that we have as is possible. Knowing who we can afford to lose and who we can't. Reese has been a very reliable GM and I see no reason to think that won't continue. He's already said he can see a deal that keeps Osi here. My question is can Osi see it and how badly does he want a chance to repeat??


                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="NYSPORTS"]So many fans just don't understand the salary cap.[/quote]

                            It's complicated.
                            [/quote]




                            No, but look down the road a couple years, see all the FAs we need to resign, and anyone can see why you don't extend your 3rd DE on the depth chart to a lucrative contract.




                            Personally, I'd rather make sure we resign both Cruz and Nicks, let alone worry about KP, Kiwi, Boley, Beatty Booth,Joseph, and Webster.

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